What do you hate?

[SunXia]

So I hate that culture has demonised the idea of conflict. (Not you, I know you have a heart in there beating strongly for your fellow man but this is about conflict in general)

They have sanitised what motivates people to move and then wonder why they cannot motivate themselves to move.

Don't get me wrong military conflict is extremely bad.

And social conflicts can be bad.

But Personal Conflicts are a balance of Pros and Cons.

Stress is Neutral, it's not evil or righteous.

Not enough stress, and you won't do anything that makes you feel uncomfortable. Too much stress and the Carbon Dioxide in your blood imbalances, making it acidic and impacting your ability to store memories, denying you a benchmark moment to moment, achieving the same result of the task remaining undone and probably messier than had you not even bothered.

The human psyche is complex and it thrives in a balance of Action, Reflection and Relaxation.

You have a group of people who learned or accepted the message that Relaxation was a Luxury instead of a Necessity.

They learned to accept that message every single day for a long time.

Physically (in act), Socially (in word) and Emotionally (in thought) they tuned their beings to accept this reality.

In taking away our comfort with ALL conflicts, they are stripping us of a fundamental tool we, as humans, use to learn.

And a vital tool that helps moderate us personally and thus moderate us socially and then moderate us systemically.

We even saw this on the forum in the decades its been up.

It used to be like Twitter, we login everyday because there was a time when a short shift at work was enough to have missed several replies.

We are people who gravitate together because we know that discourse must have some limits to achieve efficient understanding and bonding and fulfilment.

So we are among the last to untether, something I am thankful for. (There's lots of places we Jack of All Traits, Masters of None, can go, but very few we can stay comfortably)

Yet, as much as we try to ignore the outside world, not even we exist in a vacuum and that will impact us.

You can see the impact the last recession had on the world of forums, where you go to literally have a moderated discussion.

You can see when people have less freedom, they feel less free to engage.

Its the reality we live in.

Suffering is natural but its not healthy.

A balance of Action/Reaction and Relaxation and Reflection is paramount for a healthy persons cognitive abilities.

TLDR: I hate that people are in pain right now but I hope they stop sanitising or hiding from things that help them feel motivated. Humanity can unlearn its unhealthy impulses and irregular relationship witb conflicts with healing.

[ZL181]

Hello, I believe this my first time interacting with you. It's nice to meet you!

Your post was enlightening to me, and I'd like to respond to some points.

So I hate that culture has demonised the idea of conflict. They have sanitised what motivates people to move and then wonder why they cannot motivate themselves to move. (…) Military conflict is extremely bad. And social conflicts can be bad. But Personal Conflicts are a balance of Pros and Cons. Stress is Neutral, it's not evil or righteous.

Not enough stress, and you won't do anything that makes you feel uncomfortable. Too much stress and the Carbon Dioxide in your blood imbalances, making it acidic and impacting your ability to store memories, denying you a benchmark moment to moment, achieving the same result of the task remaining undone and probably messier than had you not even bothered.

You make a very good point. My past post stated that I disliked conflict in general even though I should've explained I was talking about social conflict. Indeed, I dislike social conflict and I detest military conflict. You have explained the details of the personal conflict well in the quoted paragraph. I don't think I'd thought about conflict in that aspect. I don't know much about human psychology, but I can say that when I set myself a mental deadline, it motivates me.

Suffering is natural but its not healthy. A balance of Action/Reaction and Relaxation and Reflection is paramount for a healthy persons cognitive abilities.
TLDR: I hate that people are in pain right now but I hope they stop sanitising or hiding from things that help them feel motivated. Humanity can unlearn its unhealthy impulses and irregular relationship witb conflicts with healing.

I highly agree with this statement and this is why I think making friends is important because they can serve as a pillar of support. I am generalizing, but family and friends are always there for you to just talk to.

This forum has bonded many people together closely with the historical common interest, and it has not evolved much from its heyday: James is still managing this forum and so are many others who are moderating this forum. They have experience: they have dealt with several people who have come and gone who each have different personalities. They have the tact to promote a friendly environment and calm situations down. Your quote about this forum is representative of my belief.

It used to be like Twitter, we login everyday because there was a time when a short shift at work was enough to have missed several replies. We are people who gravitate together because we know that discourse must have some limits to achieve efficient understanding and bonding and fulfillment. So we are among the last to untether, something I am thankful for. (There's lots of places we Jack of All Traits, Masters of None, can go, but very few we can stay comfortably)

I also find this forum sometimes better than instant messaging services because I do not feel not obligated to respond immediately. This allows me to reconsider my words if they are too emotional, overall helping structure my thoughts into a coherent post.

I am grateful for the diverse people here who continue to provide me with knowledge and social experience. I find it important to always learn something new from others (even if I think I'm the most smart person in the world).

[Dong Zhou]

I also find this forum sometimes better than instant messaging services because I do not feel not obligated to respond immediately. This allows me to reconsider my words if they are too emotional, overall helping structure my thoughts into a coherent post.

That does help for me as well. Also easier to mod

This forum brings me good memories whenever I visit it. Let's make that an experience for everyone.

Lovely message

I'm too easily sucked in, that can be a considerable time waste on people who aren't going to listen, I do need to be more gentle at times but also know "this isn't working, I'm out". So I'm not the greatest person to talk about being non-combative but here goes

So I'm going on a limb here and saying it is the politics section that is a concern?

The pub, three kingdoms, games sections are very much for anyone 13 or above. I want them to be places where people can ask "the stupid question" and get a friendly, helpful response and be made to feel welcome. We want debate and discussion but we want that friendly tone and try to keep on eye on things to ensure debate doesn't turn into conflict. Also sister site simrtk, great if people are a bit competitive as long as friendly and have fun, no if the other side became enemies. We want people to form bonds and certainly have ones that have lasted years

With the politics section, we have always allowed more leeway. "Is Cao Cao/Liu Bei/Liu Yu trustworthy" is a fun historical question, replace that with a current politician and that is going to have more impact (replace that with a lot worse then trust as well). Misunderstandings will occur, tempers fray. Some topics see cultural, religious, idealogical, political divides and to let that be explored, we allow more robustness. What I look for is the sense that, after the debate is done, even if needs a 24 hour cool off, a sense that people could have a proverbial drink. That they may strongly oppose the other person and disagree but they see them as human and are showing good-will even if, for a moment, they forgot themselves in the head. I have seen people form bonds of friendship and/or respect while butting heads in current affairs.

Your right about the world is divided. I suspect the world is burning and the economic situation for a lot of people being dire has really helped widen splits even without the toxicity of some of the politics now and that things are rapidly changing which creates cultural divides. It is frankly scary the way humans have become distant from each other. Maybe it heals up if the climate is saved, when social changes become the new norm, people have faith in systems again and that there lives will get better, otherwise I don't know what heals it. What I would like Current Affairs to be is at least a humanizing bridge, if you know someone who is of a different view then perhaps it can make things a little less hard-line, bring one out of oneself when thinking and robust exchanges help with that.

Now I hope we can see the human behind the screen and be on friendly terms, because everyone here is unique and special that I think has got missed in recent days. I hope we can keep current affairs open for what it can be but it does require us remembering that the other person has, via their life experiences, come at an issue via a genuine belief and they will have feelings behind that screen.

[ZL181]

So I'm going on a limb here and saying it is the politics section that is a concern?

Current Affairs have gotten more messy in recent years, but I think that we should still always keep its threads open for someone to speak their mind. It's a good way to expose oneself to different views, which may be caused by different upbringings. Politics is messy for that reason as people are naturally passionate for something they feel like it impacts their lives. In some cases, it does, but in other cases, it doesn't. I find those conversations interesting, but what is scary to me as I see it are those that insult using demeaning adjectives and nicknames even when warned by moderators, who don't earn those powerful responsibilities through just sycophancy, but through experience. James and the other moderators have set up very good forum rules that have kept this forum in strong shape for over 20 years, though it is of my belief people should naturally have an instinct to be respectful, and rules are just a tool to remind people of that. This forum, to me, seems more sane and orderly than most social media sites, and that's the way I feel comfortable with.

Edit: You stated, "I do need to be more gentle at times, but I also need to know when something isn't working and to get out. I'm not the greatest person to talk about being non-combative."

I'd argue you are just stern as a moderator, perhaps cultivated by the different types of people who've frequented this forum. Not being gentle and just being mean are two different things. I think it's good that you know when to leave when you get irritated before someone makes a hasty decision they normally wouldn't.

[SunXia]

Hello, I believe this my first time interacting with you. It's nice to meet you!

I believe so as well, four years into your tenure as a Sausage!! Hello!! A pleasure to meet you too!!

Your post was enlightening to me

In a good way I hope.

I should've explained I was talking about social conflict.

At the risk of needlesly appearing like we could end up over apologising to each other, you communicated how you needed to, at the time. That's not me saying that your post didn't inspire me but it was one of several things that inspired my need to express it.

You have explained the details of the personal conflict well in the quoted paragraph. I don't think I'd thought about conflict in that aspect.

I'm so glad you understood things I was trying to say because it is a very tricky issue to communicate because in itself, pain is known to impact communication skills so I am really glad I succeeded in getting my point across on what is a complex topic.

I don't know much about human psychology

And let me make it clear, I am not an expert either and I am very much a learner on the topic because I have had to study it due to my own circumstances and I should always preface that any and all selfcare should always be considered that in every capacity, you are a different being to me so what generates cortisol in you will not equal but will share a lot of similarities with what will stimulate cortisol in me.

Anything that causes you to make a choice, is a stimulated conflict.

The more we get to choose and the more we make mistakes, the more we learn from those conflicts because we gradually become more skilled at overcoming them until we don't generate as much or it takes negligible amounts to overcome with time so long as we are practicing that skill.

It is why our infants are impulsive, while skilled imitators and all you can do is provide them with enough skills to deal with the challenges presented to them. That's not me saying make porn for kids but when they encounter adult things in real life, titillating it in an attempt to over protect the child often causes the opposite of what you intended, to happen.

Genuinely, making choices is a skill, it's a huge thing that separates the assertive and the introverted. Of course, it's complex but assertive people are usually those that have been allowed to make mistakes, more. And with more affirmation upon success and not tempered by someone making a conflict for them out of nowhere, needlessly. Long term, those repeated conflicts overwhelm people.

I highly agree with this statement and this is why I think making friends is important because they can serve as a pillar of support

Trianlge of Needs are usually Physical, Social/Spiritual and Emotional that contribute to your Mental capacity to make healthy choices.

Hmmmm, lets see my Partner is doing a PHD in computer science and I used an allegory for him, think of the Physical as the Hardware (system components and power), the Emotions as like the leads (or signals if want leads in physical) and the Social/Spiritual side whether or not you are using it, the Mental being the Operating Software that paints the portrait you want to see in yourself.

It's not difficult to see how people quickly form relationships with their devices, especially now they talk back, imitating human thought from somewhere across the globe that you can only fantasise about understanding.

I am generalizing, but family and friends are always there for you to just talk to.

Feeling safe in moments of Relaxation is imperative. Everyone wants permission to be vulnerable some of the time. And there are certain self-denial rituals that are taught in certain cultures that seek to split those vulnerable or assertive impulses among people the same way you would a trade skill and no, nobody is free of their needs, no computer lasts without being maintained.

Friends and family are the people who not only love us, but make us feel loved and inspire us to share that with others while allowing us our boundaries without pain.

I always say, Discomfort teaches, Pain (and Shame) Traumatises.

When your lesson is crossing into painful territory, you are not learning in a healthy capacity because your body is in the state of High Alert, a necessary state that gets us through conflicts but a short term state that the longer we are in, causes things that put pressure on our hearts thus increasing the risk of Heart Disease, the biggest killer in the developed world.

That's not me saying everytime you get over stressed you are going to have Heart Disease, like I said it is complex and health is a spectrum and its the individuals role to be honest with themselves on whether it is one of the contributing factors to their health being poor or the mood swinging and becoming unregulated. That factor being Avoidance impulses from overly relying on Avoidance strategies and not assertive ones too, because you fear literally stepping on ants because we have engaged in hypersenstivie mode in the midst of a recovery from a traumatising event.

That's what family and friends are, support but a limit in the form of advice if you are acting unhealthily, actually unhealthily, harming yourself and others. Safe to make mistakes and know they don't want to feed our trauma because our trauma knows how to make us stop.

This forum has bonded many people together closely with the historical common interest

Indeed, it has, and its one of the beautiful things people can embrace in and share when they feel safe and free to. We also have Facebook and IRCs and I still hang out in the old broken Discord just in case someone got lost. Our community doesn't have to look the same for everyone and that's why even the like Northern Irish girl who is very aware of her literal existence as a "niche" even among trauma victims. So I know my perspective is going to discomfort everyone especially those who thought I was "fixing" myself when I am "managing" my trauma by "accepting" myself.

The toxic patriarchy, in even Academia has led to a culture of "truth" and "anecdote" and that is very deliberate. Truth is vague and up for grabs when its fluid moment to moment, and anecdotes exist to be labelled or lamented and not, maybe, to give you permission to reflect on your own authentic self.

They have the tact to promote a friendly environment and calm situations down.

I hope I am included in that but I know I let my mental cage hold me back from interacting as much. Then I remembered I was once a teenager able to moderate these guys because reminding people of boundaries, is not really abusive or censorship. Again, there are complex reasons I personally have these impulses but I fell off the wagon and gave in to my impulse of shrinking my world bit by bit. I hope to do better and I hope you feel comfortable enough in your boundaries to call me on an trespassing you feel I am doing. I can't promise I won't have an emotional reaction but I think we like the guidelines presented by the forum as they afford us our humanity too.

I also find this forum sometimes better than instant messaging services because I do not feel not obligated to respond immediately. This allows me to reconsider my words if they are too emotional, overall helping structure my thoughts into a coherent post.

You have hit on the head as to why I was so excited to see James starting the forum back up from a Healthcare perspective, for everyone. But I also knew everyone was out of practice too.

But especially with Musk removing the character limit on Twitter, thus ruining the limit that forced people to be think if they are being clear and understood, thus turning it into another blog space when the Threads also acted like a book you could pick up and choose to turn the page. Musk often reminds me that as a chronically ill over-communicator, I like tempering that as much as I like wielding it.

I am grateful for the diverse people here who continue to provide me with knowledge and social experience. I find it important to always learn something new from others (even if I think I'm the most smart person in the world).

I often remind myself that Socrates left no text and yet we wouldn't call him stupid, even if he accepted or lamented his own ignorance, or so we are told.

Every day is an opportunity to learn a skill or to sharpen one you already have or just sow your seeds by demonstrating the rewards of your toils.

You are your own operating software, we all know many processes fail on our pcs all the time without making the pc chronically unusuable. You decide what your hardware can do through a process of being honest with yourself and patient because Discomfort is a Necessity for Growth, and Fear is a Necessity for Bravery.

If a person isn't afraid, they aren't being brave, no matter what they say, can't square that circle.

I see it are those that insult using demeaning adjectives and nicknames even when warned by moderators, who don't earn those powerful responsibilities through just sycophancy, but through experience.

In their defense, its been a long time with that green badge and I shouldn't be immune to criticism, especially since I have changed in that time, but here's something I want people to think about themselves.

Instead of seeing themselves as a Flawed Virtuous Hero, maybe cast yourself as an Unskilled Learning Protagonist of your own story.

You ARE the centre of your own universe and you deserve to be.

Cannot pour from an empty gravy train, and that would be unfortunate, I DO like gravy.

My regulated (good mood) goal is to help people learn the art of letting themselves off the hook, or Stopping Distance. Recognise that only you can decide why someone else authenticity makes you feel threatened and you only get there by letting yourself off the hook. Not every Trouble Report is a castastrophic event that crashes the pc although ignore it long enough, you might (complex) find you are also casting your own villains while suffering from very understandable strains that are all playing a factor, including, past experiences you might need to reflect on in a new light.

This forum, to me, seems more sane and orderly than most social media sites, and that's the way I feel comfortable with.

Not too orderly I hope, fun times must be had! Also, if we use them as tools and guidelines, rather than just hardline rules, it allows us to grow as individuals, as well as a communtiy.

I think we can all admit that there are times we want to achieve understanding and there's times we want the last word.

When those times happen, are influenced by many complex factors but often more likely when we are neglecting our needs, for some or many complex reasons, but it's not unexpected that seeing millions die so quickly would cause an environment where people follow suit, or join in, just to have any ritual or familiarity.

Somewhere, Debate became Debunk too.

Like I said, complex. I hope we can find our feet again.

And do NOT listen to that tripe that DZ wrote about not being non-combative, I think the entire Forum is joining me is silently wondering who the fudge he is talking about when he says that.

EDIT: There you have it, Loneliness is contributing deaths at similar rates to 15 cigarettes a day.

[ZL181]

At the risk of needlesly appearing like we could end up over apologising to each other, you communicated how you needed to, at the time. That's not me saying that your post didn't inspire me but it was one of several things that inspired my need to express it.

I can be awkward by nature so I guess my tendency to apologize reflects that, but if you don't want such a cycle to occur, I can do it for you. Being awkward, I find, makes it hard for me to socialize with others, and it's a skill I'm trying to refine. I think that I will grow more comfortable and shed the awkwardness as we continue to chat to one another.

I'm so glad you understood things I was trying to say because it is a very tricky issue to communicate because in itself, pain is known to impact communication skills so I am really glad I succeeded in getting my point across on what is a complex topic.

You did it well! I agree, pain is a very complex topic. There are several types of pain, and you focused mainly on the mental side of it. As I see it, America has a problem like people suffering from mental issues, and that is sad. Most people, as you said, are used to a life of comfort in many aspects, but take that away, and that diminishes their overall happiness and thus their mental health. And when people are feel mentally compromised, they may act unlike themselves.

Triangle of Needs are usually Physical, Social/Spiritual and Emotional that contribute to your Mental capacity to make healthy choices.

Hmmmm, lets see my Partner is doing a PHD in computer science and I used an allegory for him, think of the Physical as the Hardware (system components and power), the Emotions as like the leads (or signals if want leads in physical) and the Social/Spiritual side whether or not you are using it, the Mental being the Operating Software that paints the portrait you want to see in yourself.

It's not difficult to see how people quickly form relationships with their devices, especially now they talk back, imitating human thought from somewhere across the globe that you can only fantasise about understanding.

I think that allegory there is interesting as more people get involved in computer technology and whatnot.

Yeah, I've heard humans have a natural tendency to talk to one another, so this aligns with it. The Internet is a very unique place in that it allows people from different countries to talk to one another provided they have the connection to, and while you can't touch them, they are kinda there. But that is getting harder as artificial intelligence is getting more advanced and human, and it gets harder to distinguish them from actual humans. The good thing is that they have a shallow understanding of the Three Kingdoms era, and one chatbot even transliterated Cao Cao as "Sao Kao", so perhaps that can be our litmus test.

Friends and family are the people who not only love us, but make us feel loved and inspire us to share that with others while allowing us our boundaries without pain. I always say, Discomfort teaches, Pain (and Shame) Traumatises. (…) That's what family and friends are, support but a limit in the form of advice if you are acting unhealthily, actually unhealthily, harming yourself and others. Safe to make mistakes and know they don't want to feed our trauma because our trauma knows how to make us stop.

I highly agree on that. I think discomfort at me seeing my past behavior has helped improve my character as a overall good human being, and while I feel discomfort, I do not always avoid looking at it. But pain and shame just makes me avoid them overall as a terrible reminder. And I think trauma can really restrict someone's life if it's for a benign thing, such as swimming. Someone could accidentally fall into water without proper training and almost drown, and they may fear water for the rest of their life without giving swimming lessons a chance, and thereby enjoying swimming if they really like it. Friends and families are there to guide someone through that trauma, or even just teach the person how to swim to avoid the almost-drowning scenario altogether.

The toxic patriarchy, in even Academia has led to a culture of "truth" and "anecdote" and that is very deliberate. Truth is vague and up for grabs when its fluid moment to moment, and anecdotes exist to be labelled or lamented and not, maybe, to give you permission to reflect on your own authentic self.

Sometimes when people question anecdotes that actually happened, it makes oneself doubt if it really happened when it did, or makes oneself feel trapped and without support. This is prevalent on the Internet because all you see are blocks of text. You don't see the other person's expression or gestures to convey their feelings to enhance their anecdotes. I think this is an complex issue America could work on because it seems many people are suspicious by nature, which can be good as it protects oneself from scammers, but it can prevent someone from knowing a honest and good natured person on the Internet well, and thus a lack of empathy for their experiences.

In their defense, its been a long time with that green badge and I shouldn't be immune to criticism, especially since I have changed in that time, but here's something I want people to think about themselves:

Instead of seeing themselves as a Flawed Virtuous Hero, maybe cast yourself as an Unskilled Learning Protagonist of your own story. You ARE the centre of your own universe and you deserve to be. (…) My regulated (good mood) goal is to help people learn the art of letting themselves off the hook, or Stopping Distance.

I know you have a long history of wearing that badge, but you, James, and Dong Zhou are the only moderators I still see around in this forum. This community has become smaller and it seems that way, but I think having you folks around to make sure nothing goes crazy is always comforting to me.

And I like the analogy that one is just a "Unskilled Learning Protagonist"! I think that quote covered a lot of what I was going to say!

Not too orderly I hope, fun times must be had! Also, if we use them as tools and guidelines, rather than just hardline rules, it allows us to grow as individuals, as well as a communtiy.

You're right. I naturally tend towards order, as it was contributed by my upbringing, but sometimes it's nice to let loose every once in a while to have fun and socialize especially on April Fools' Day. The only thing that really troubles me that I can think of is hate language, like genuine hate language, directed at others.

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Your post, again, was very enlightening to me (in a good way!) and the good part about this forum is that one can reference your post, and take some lessons from it. You posted not just for me, but for others who may lurk in this forum. I find that beautiful.

[SunXia]

I enjoyed reading your reply and thank you for being so open to the ideas. Going to try and mostly take a cortisol break today but something in the reply caused my gag reflex to move so yeah, time for more...


I sound like, not a Broken Record....a Broken Parable at this point with my emphasis on how complex everything is, but it is, what it is!!


But you mentioned that I focus on "Mental Pain" and I want to leave it with you that ALL pain is mental pain, all of it is a message that you are damaged and/or in danger of being more damaged.


Thats not to say there is not an underlying cause of the pain symptom and that those will vary drastically in what danger you are in.


However, when a pain signal is being repeatedly sent and received for three months or more, its classified as chronic regardless if any tissue damage or illness has been repaired or not.


Wee story.


Man was brought into the A&E with a blade right through the middle of his boot. He was a builder and his friends were holding him up because he had had an accident on the building site where the blade punctured straight through and the guy was in agony and sweating, and breathing erratically and you couldn't touch his boot, he'd scream in sheer anguish and agony. They had to sedate him to get it off and when they did, they found the blade had missed him entirely.


What had happened was, he had a habit of over assessing risks that he wasn't aware of (hypervigilance, I'm sure you can relate in some way), and being somewhere very risky like a building site, meant he was stimulated by the risks he worried about, daily, until he was hypersensitive to them, without knowing it because they are quite safe just not compared to a other jobs.


Everyone at the building site contributed to this because they also expect risks on the job but people generally get quite competent at the actual task while, with H&S neutering sites, wasn't actively practising or acting on the outcomes of risks, so the concerns were just clotting. So when he has what appears to be a severe injury, the blade through the boot looks like its through the foot from the outside. 


His body, hypersensitive to danger, through our constant over-correcting culture of over-regulation (yes I know theres a group that lack any apparent will to correct at all) just created an environment where his very valid brain signals started sending catastrophic messages to him in its confusion, so that he literally couldn't function and had to be sedated so we could have a look at the damaged shoe.


The Physical Familiarity triggered an alarm (I've seen this movie before...), The Emotional Trigger sent a signal (Yo brain, check with someone, we've definitely seen this movie before...) and the Social Validation (my friends have seen this movie before) combined to solidify a Danger Alert in his Mental Faculties (and the white dude dies first! AHHHHHH) and thus, agony.


But in reality, risks should be accepted not danced around, unless the numbers are genuinely there in reflection, and of course the white dude dies first, they still get a disproportionate amount of the roles!


But then, on the other side of the spectrum, you have experienced sky divers who are literally so skilled at their job, they get so comfortable, not perceiving the social and emotional limits that help inform and ground them, they forget to pull their shoot.


Its just interesting what the reality looks like when we are too comfortable and/or set in a certain way too.


I said a few days ago on Discord that we have lost the balance between snap reactions and failing to react, or act, when the chance is there. 


Maybe we lost practice.


Maybe I should make a pain thread but it might scare people and have the opposite impact.

[ZL181]

I enjoyed reading your reply. It was interesting to hear that story about a man feeling pain when it never existed in his boot! It helped me visualize your point.

Maybe I should make a pain thread but it might scare people and have the opposite impact.

I think a pain thread would be okay. This forum has always been open to many controversial topics, some more than pain, and I think that adds a unique flavor to it most other social media sites do not have. I think letting people be candid about pain will be okay, and even if people avoid it, we can at least archive our musings about pain in a organized and safe place.

[Daolun]

I hate everyone.