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The SOSZ's Book Club - Fire Over Luoyang

Unread postby Sun Fin » Mon Feb 25, 2019 5:06 pm

This is open to anyone who wants to take part! The aim is that we will read a book about the Three Kingdoms at the pace of a chapter a week and then discuss it here! The first book that we are going to read is Fire Over Luoyang by RDC. After we finish that book we'll have a vote on what we will read next.

Now, until Monday 4th the discussion is on the opening chapter, The Imperial Capital. Please feel free to share any observations, questions or thoughts! :D
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Unread postby Sun Fin » Mon Feb 25, 2019 5:42 pm

The opening chapter is very dry. Less concerned with political history, it sets the scene, describing the geography, architecture and civil service of Luoyang. It is actually the reason I bought the book as I wanted to know more about the city itself for my novel which starts in the capital.

Potential talking points:

- The surrounding geography
- The lay out of the city
- the various roles

One thing reading it reminded me of is how much I'd love to get my hands on Bielenstein's book, Luoyang.
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Unread postby XuanPin » Tue Feb 26, 2019 12:49 am

Is this available as a free pdf? Amazon is asking about $200 for it, which is something of an obstacle.
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Re: The Scholars' Book Club

Unread postby Sun Fin » Tue Feb 26, 2019 8:52 am

Sorry XuanPin, this one is only available at that price. :(

I received it for Christmas and when I mentioned that Jia Niafeng and DaoLun expressed an interest in a communal reading.

I will suggest that our next book be one that is either available online or cheap to buy!
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Unread postby PyroMystic » Tue Feb 26, 2019 11:03 am

Sun Fin wrote:The opening chapter is very dry. Less concerned with political history, it sets the scene, describing the geography, architecture and civil service of Luoyang. It is actually the reason I bought the book as I wanted to know more about the city itself for my novel which starts in the capital.

Potential talking points:

- The surrounding geography
- The lay out of the city
- the various roles

One thing reading it reminded me of is how much I'd love to get my hands on Bielenstein's book, Luoyang.
This is actually very interesting. Sadly, I do not have the book so I can't join the discussion. I will just enjoy reading what people are discussing here :mrgreen:

Also, this is off-topic but :
Sun Fin wrote:It is actually the reason I bought the book as I wanted to know more about the city itself for my novel which starts in the capital
Do you, by any chance, happen to be planning on writing a novel?
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Unread postby XuanPin » Tue Feb 26, 2019 11:22 am

Yes, Sun Fin , I too would be interested in hearing about your novel. And if you can recommend historical fantasy based on rtk.
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Unread postby DaoLunOfShiji » Tue Feb 26, 2019 11:37 am

Map of Luoyang from the novel; including palace positions, office locations, gates, terraces, altars and the surrounding locations. Putting this here for referance for those who'd like ease of access to it.

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Unread postby Sun Fin » Tue Feb 26, 2019 11:50 am

Thanks Daolun! That map is helpful to have in front of you when reading the chapter! I really struggle picturing the Covered Way. It's described as a raised walkway that stretched the length of the city, between the palaces. Do you think it was raised enough for everyone to say it no matter where you are in the city? I also wish we knew more about the suburbs, or even where the Northern Army was based!

In terms of my novel, I've got about 30k words of a novel about the Yellow Turban campaign penned. However the project is on ice for the foreseeable future for various reasons, not the least being the lack of time to commit to it since I started at theological college.

In terms of what is out there already... The answer is not much. The Archlich of tumblr has written a novel but has so far been unable to find a publisher willing to take it. I've reviewed it for him and it is incredibly good, but our period is just to niche. That leaves self publishing and the only person I know to have done that posted about his work here.
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Unread postby DaoLunOfShiji » Tue Feb 26, 2019 12:30 pm

The novel describes it a "bridge over the city" and a "raised pathway". To me that reads like it was perhaps smaller than the city walls, but maybe higher than most buildings. The fact that it has a pavilion on the midway point certainly implies that this was a rather large bridge. The assertion that the use of the Covered Way to skip the public roads not only seems like the Imperial right to ones own private highway (as seen with the case of Cao Zhi and the Major's Gate), but also as a form of protection. So it being raised off the ground certainly makes sense. I'm unsure if that means it would be viewable from any point in the city. Perhaps the most important posts, certainly the palaces and key guard and watch points?
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Unread postby Sun Fin » Tue Feb 26, 2019 12:34 pm

That definition of raised makes far more sense... I wasn't picturing a bridge, rather a large mound that ran the length of the city, splitting it in half with a road at the top. A bridge makes far more sense... O how dense am I :lol:.
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