Elitemsh wrote:Fin, many thanks for giving a link for this thesis. Was an interesting read but disagree with some of his views on Shu men. He said Ma Chao played a crucial role in Yi campaign. Ma Chao did fa here. He made the enemy surrender earlier but it looks like that was inevitable anyway. Didn't Liu Bei etc have the city surrounded from all sides? At Han Zhong, I remember Ma Chao being paired with Zhang Fei but no successes on the field. His argument of the ranks being a measure of what each had done for Liu Bei is absolute bs as far as I'm concerned. Ma Chao's contribution to Shu was much less than the others. It's a case of Guan Yu= Zhang Fei> Zhao Yun> Huang Zhong> Ma Chao.
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