dymlos timbre wrote:I wish to ask, what do you think might have happened had shingen takeda lived a few more years (this can be applied to kenshin uesugi as well) do you htink he would have destroyed the oda-Tokugawa alliance? you have to remember shingen Won at mikatagahara BUT it was not a decisive defeat, tokugawa quickly recover'd afterwards and Conducted raids on the takeda camp (reminds me of hefei lol).
dymlos timbre wrote:I think you might be putting to much praise on those 2 men, the hojo mori oda tokugawa etc. were no clans to be taken lightly, on one end you have oda who made the used of long pikes and tight musket formation mainstray, hojo had amazing engineering and odawara was said to be almost inpenetrable (yes i know it was taken down the fact is it took a damn good while.) his cavalry charge is famous but not invincible, i think part of the reason is because before then horse tactics revolved on archery not lancers so at the time diamyo would have been at a lose on how to deal wit hthe new tactic he incorperated.
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