Zhou Yu wrote:Zhuge Liang not really a great military genius.
Zhou Dexiang wrote:Liu Bei made a good straw mat seller, but not a good king
Zhou Dexiang wrote:I agree, some dudes were good, most of them overrated greatly... but one I think greatly underrated.
I have more respect for Zhang Fei historically than in SGYY, because he was used as the scape goat for all of Liu Bei's errors early on.
Zhou Dexiang wrote:Guan Yu, Zhao Yun, , Zhuge Liang and Huang Zhong seem to me, to be slightly overrated, still generals I respect (even if Zhao Yun is nothing but a body guard, I still respect him) They all pulled their weight and are not reasons I dislike Shu, frankly, I don't hate Shu, but I do not like...
Ma Chao, Liu Bei, and Jiang Wei. Jiang Wei and Liu Bei were not good at what they were supposed to be, Liu Bei made a good straw mat seller, but not a good king, and Jiang Wei accomplished next to nothing as a commander, and could have done much more as an advisor as opposed to a leader.
Zhou Dexiang wrote:and Ma Chao is as gay as a hormone driven village person.
Chen Kun wrote:still u can't underrated what they had achieved
not like Wu,Liu Bei and his followers fought and travelled from north to south of China putting their lives on risk,but they managed to built a kingdom that even Wei had to put a respect on them
Zhou Yu wrote:Shu, as we all know, was portrayed as a great, honorable, noble, and powerful Kingdom. Shu, in reality, was far from such a title. The officers of Liu Bei were made to look like godly figures, immortal and superior. Such officers consist of Zhang Fei, Guan Yu, Zhao Yun, Ma Chao, Huang Zhong, Zhuge Liang, Jiang Wei, Wei Yan, Ma Dai, ect ect ect. Some of the officers were wrongly described and some people feel almost offended by these assumptions. I want to know what you think about the followers of Shu.
Han Xin wrote:Zhuge Liang as you said was more of an administrator and not a military genius (~don't try and use some book from a Tang's dynasty fortune teller by the name of Li Jing to convince me).
Han Xin wrote:Zhao Yun SUX bad....
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