Fa Zheng

[LittleConqueror]

Fa Zheng was one of the greatset Shu officers and it's said that had he lived longer, the disater at Yi Ling would not have happened. My question is that had Fa Zhang lived longer could he have prevented the disater? I think he would have easily saw through Lu Xun's plan, but he would not be able to convince to Liu Bei what was going to happen.

[James]

I think Fa Zheng might have been able to turn it around. Liu Bei trusted and listened to him more than Zhuge Liang from what I can tell, and I do believe that Lu Xun would have had to come up with a different strategy to compete with Fa Zheng.

A lot depends on Liu Bei's emotions at the time. Many would say that he didn't attack Yiling out of vengeance or anger. If that is the case he would have been very receptive to Fa Zheng. If he was angry he might have hesitated to follow any advise against the attack, but at the very least Fa Zheng might have been able to help him through the battle. Given the amount of time between the attack and Guan Yu's death I do not think that Liu Bei was beyond reason...

[Han Xin]

Fa Zheng was one of the greatset Shu officers and it's said that had he lived longer, the disater at Yi Ling would not have happened. My question is that had Fa Zhang lived longer could he have prevented the disater? I think he would have easily saw through Lu Xun's plan, but he would not be able to convince to Liu Bei what was going to happen.

The answer is NO. Even with 10 Fa Zheng and Zhuge Liang at YiLing, Liu Bei and his troops would still be defeated and Lu Xun would go home with atleast 9 sets of FaZheng and Zhuge Liang's head.

SGYY wanted to show that Liu Bei was acting in anger to attack Wu, therefore his army was not-organised and his force were mainly of constripted troops. However thats was never the case. Liu Bei invasion of Wu has only the aim of forcing Wu to return JingZhou, Shu's army were highly displined and organised and Liu Bei knew exactly what he was doing. The battle against Wu on the Chang Jiang was a showed of force to make Sun Quan seek peace, initially Sun Quan offerred the return of the NanJun prefecture. However, since Liu Bei used the excuse of revenging Guan Yu's death to attack Wu, accepting the offer for Nanjun the first time would make him look bad, therefore he rejected and believing that Sun Quan would send another offer for peace. Instead Sun Quan send out Lu Xun, and the rest as we say its history...

[Zhou Gongjin]

SGYY wanted to show that Liu Bei was acting in anger to attack Wu, therefore his army was not-organised and his force were mainly of constripted troops. However thats was never the case. Liu Bei invasion of Wu has only the aim of forcing Wu to return JingZhou, Shu's army were highly displined and organised and Liu Bei knew exactly what he was doing. The battle against Wu on the Chang Jiang was a showed of force to make Sun Quan seek peace, initially Sun Quan offerred the return of the NanJun prefecture. However, since Liu Bei used the excuse of revenging Guan Yu's death to attack Wu, accepting the offer for Nanjun the first time would make him look bad, therefore he rejected and believing that Sun Quan would send another offer for peace. Instead Sun Quan send out Lu Xun, and the rest as we say its history...

I agree.
Saying that with Fa Zheng Liu Bei would not lose is the same as Cao Cao saying that if Guo Jia would be alive, Chi Bi would be won by him.

[Chao Tzu Lung1]

Fa zheng was trusted moer than zhuge liang, so when the battle of yi ling came, fa zheng's advise would have been taken in consdieration with zhuge liang backing him up and liu bei would not have lost to lu xun. Fa zheng was equal to gua jia, sima yi, deng ai, and zhou yu if not superior, it was tragic to see him die so early in the SGYY( I.E. Taishi Ci).

[Zhao Zilong]

Is there a site where I could find information about non-Dynasty Warriors people? (I.E. Fa Zheng, Li Yan...etc.)

[Cao Ren]

i dont understand why you guys are all talking about fa zheng as being such a great general for shu. He barely served them and didnt do much. He sppeared smart, but not taht smart. I also dont see how he was more truested than zhuge liang.

[James]

i dont understand why you guys are all talking about fa zheng as being such a great general for shu. He barely served them and didnt do much. He sppeared smart, but not taht smart. I also dont see how he was more truested than zhuge liang.

His capabilities and role in Shu, however short, was played down by Luo Guanzhong.

[CK]

Han Xin: Think about it this way, LB would definitely accept the proposal to have Nanjun back. WHY? Not only would it be a good point of invasion into Wu, a good buffer if Wu attacks but it also could be used to attack Wei. Moreover, it could settle the dispute between Wu and Shu of Guan Yu's death. But why wouldn't LB accepted it?

Cao Ren: Why people say Fa Zheng is good is due to the fact that he, more so than anyone, helped in the creation of Shu-han with his timely advices and military plots. But then, even if Fa Zheng is present, the best that he could do would be to minimise loss. I do not think that he could create victory for Shu given so the factors that had acted against them.

[Shadowlink]

i think fa zheng is pretty smart he did help capture hanzhong.