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Sons of Cao Cao and Cao Pi (updated May 28)

Unread postby jiuwan » Wed May 28, 2003 5:18 am

Well since finishing Hua Tuo's SGZ bio, been a little restless today. But I don't want to tackle anything big like another translation of an officer's bio yet. I need to relax after over a month of translating. Summer is just around the corner :)

A lot of readers that have only read SGYY, or limited to reading english translations of SGZ bios don't know that much about Cao Cao sons.

Everyone knows about Cao Pi who would become emperor; Cao Zhi the poet; Cao Zhang the 'Golden beard' general; Cao Ang who died giving up his horse for his father's escape; Cao Chong, Cao Cao's most loved son who died young after Hua Tuo's death; Cao Xiong and maybe a couple of others.

But in fact, Cao Cao had a total of <b>25 sons!</b>

So I did a partial translation from SGZ scroll 20: Book of Wei 20: Cao Cao and Cao Pi's sons

The Wu Huang Di (Cao Cao) had twenty five sons:
Empress Bian gave birth to Wen Huang Di (Cao Pi), King of Ren Chen Wei (Cao Zhang), King of Chen Si (Cao Zhi), King of Xiao Huai (Cao Xiong).
Lady Liu gave birth to King of Feng Min (Cao Ang), King of Xiang Shang (Cao Shuo).
Lady Huan gave birth to King of Deng Ai (Cao Chong), King of Peng Cheng (Cao Ju), King of Yan (Cao Yu).
Lady Du gave birth to King of Pei Mu (Cao Lin), King of Zhong Shan Gong (Cao Gun).
Lady Qin gave birth to King of Ji Yang Huai (Cao Xuan), King of Chen Liu Gong (Cao Jun).
Lady Yin gave birth to King of Fan Yang Min (Cao Ju).
Wang Zhao Yi gave birth to King of Zhao (Cao Gan).
Concubine Sun gave birth to Prince of Lin Yi Shang (Cao Shang), King of Chu (Cao Biao), Prince of Gang Shang (Cao Qin).
Concubine Li gave birth to Prince of Gu Cheng Shang (Cao Cheng), Prince of Mei Dai (Cao Zheng), Prince of Ling Shang (Cao Jing).
Concubine Zhou gave birth to Duke of Fan An (Cao Jun).
Concubine Liu gave birth to Prince of Guang Zong Shang (Cao Ji).
Concubine Song gave birth to King of Dong Ping Ling (Cao Hui).
Concubine Zhao gave birth to King of Le Ling (Cao Mao).


Additional information...

Sons: Names, Styles (if applicable) and Title -
Cao Pi (Zi Huan) - 曹 丕 (子桓) - Wen Huang Di 文皇帝
Cao Zhang (Zi Wen) - 曹彰 (子文) - King of Ren Chen Wei 任城威王
Cao Zhi (Zi Jian) - 曹植 (子建) - King of Chen Si 陳思王
Cao Xiong - 曹熊 - King of Xiao Huai 蕭怀王
Cao Ang (Zi Xiu) - 曹昂 (子脩) - King of Feng Min 丰愍王
Cao Shuo - 曹鑠 - King of Xiang Shang 相殤王
Cao Chong (Cang Shu) - 曹沖 (倉舒) - King of Deng Ai 鄧哀王
Cao Ju - 曹据 - King of Peng Cheng 彭城王
Cao Yu - 曹宇 - King of Yan 燕王
Cao Lin - 曹林 - King of Pei Mu 沛穆王
Cao Gun - 曹袞 - King of Zhong Shan Gong 中山恭王
Cao Xuan - 曹玹 - King of Ji Yang Huai 濟陽怀王
Cao Jun (Zi An) - 曹峻 (子安) - King of Chen Liu Gong 陳留恭王
Cao Ju - 曹矩 - King of Fan Yang Min 范陽閔王
Cao Gan - 曹幹 - King of Zhao 趙王
Cao Shang - 曹上 - Prince of Lin Yi Shang 臨邑殤公子
Cao Biao (Zhu Hu) - 曹彪 (朱虎) - King of Chu 楚王
Cao Qin - 曹勤 - Prince of Gang Shang 剛殤公子
Cao Cheng - 曹乘 - Prince of Gu Cheng Shang 谷城殤公子
Cao Zheng - 曹整 - Prince of Mei Dai 郿戴公子
Cao Jing - 曹京 - Prince of Ling Shang 靈殤公子
Cao Jun - 曹均 - Duke of Fan An 樊安公
Cao Ji - 曹棘 - Prince of Guang Zong Shang 廣宗殤公子
Cao Hui - 曹徽 - King of Dong Ping Ling 東平靈王
Cao Mao - 曹茂 - King of Le Ling 樂陵王

Wives & Concubines:
Empress Bian - 卞皇后
Lady Liu - 劉夫人
Lady Huan - 環夫人
Lady Du - 杜夫人
Lady Qin - 秦夫人
Lady Yin - 尹夫人
Wang Zhao Yi - 王昭儀
Concubine Sun - 孫姬
Concubine Li - 李姬
Concubine Zhou - 周姬
Concubine Liu - 劉姬
Concubine Song - 宋姬
Concubine Zhao - 趙姬

Wen Huang Di (Cao Pi) had nine sons:
Empress Zhen (Zhen Ji) gave birth to Ming Huang Di (Cao Rui).
Li Gui Ren gave birth to King of Zan Ai (Cao Xie).
Pan Shu Yuan gave birth to King of Bei Hai Dao (Cao Rui).
Zhu Shu Yuan gave birth to King of Dong Wu Yang Huai (Cao Jian).
Chou Zhao Yi gave birth to King of Dong Hai Ding (Cao Lin).
Concubine Xu gave birth to King of Yuan Cheng Ai (Cao Li).
Concubine Su gave birth to King of Han Dan Huai (Cao Yong).
Concubine Zhang gave birth to King of Qing He Dao (Cao Gong).
Concubine Song gave birth to King of Guang Ping Ai (Cao Yan).


Additional info:

Sons: Names, Styles (if applicable) and Title -
Cao Rui (Fu Zhong) - 曹叡 (符仲) - Ming Huang Di 明皇帝
Cao Xie - 曹協 - King of Zan Ai 贊哀王
Cao Rui - 曹蕤 - King of Bei Hai Dao 北海悼王
Cao Jian - 曹鑒 - King of Dong Wu Yang Huai 東武陽怀王鑒
Cao Lin - 曹霖 - King of Dong Hai Ding 東海定王
Cao Li - 曹禮 - King of Yuan Cheng Ai 元城哀王
Cao Yong - 曹邕 - King of Han Dan Huai 邯鄲怀王
Cao Gong - 曹貢 - King of Qing He Dao 清河悼王
Cao Yan - 曹儼 - King of Guang Ping Ai 廣平哀王

Wives & Concubines:
Empress Zhen (Zhen Ji) - 甄氏皇后
Li Gui Ren - 李貴人
Pan Shu Yuan - 潘淑媛
Zhu Shu Yuan - 朱淑媛
Chou Zhao Yi - 仇昭儀
Concubine Xu - 徐姬
Concubine Su - 蘇姬
Concubine Zhang - 張姬
Concubine Song - 宋姬




<b>**Note**</b>
For the those that can read chinese. I don't know what Zhao Yi (昭儀), Shu Yuan (淑媛), Gui Ren (貴人) are in english. Any help translating would be appreciated. [/quote]
Last edited by jiuwan on Thu May 29, 2003 1:53 am, edited 2 times in total.
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Unread postby Mengdez New Book » Wed May 28, 2003 8:47 am

Zhao Yi is not Lady Wang's name, it was one of the rank of concubine after the Empress. 8-)
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Unread postby waynethegame » Wed May 28, 2003 11:40 am

Wow :shock: Cao Cao was truly the mack daddy of the Three Kingdoms period. Six wives (I'm guessing not all at once though.. then again...) and six concubines. What a way to live!

Odd though how some of his sons have the same name (I counted two Cao Jun's and I think two Cao Ju's). I guess all that pimping made him forget some other possible names :lol:
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Unread postby Jon » Wed May 28, 2003 2:20 pm

They are different names and pronunciations. That's just how they translate. See? I am smart :D
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Unread postby jiuwan » Thu May 29, 2003 12:16 am

Mengdez New Book wrote:Zhao Yi is not Lady Wang's name, it was one of the rank of concubine after the Empress. 8-)


Ya, I kinda had a hunch it was something like that. That's why in the note at the bottom, I've asked if anyone knew what this rank would translate into english would be. Still waiting... :wink:

waynethegame wrote:Wow Cao Cao was truly the mack daddy of the Three Kingdoms period. Six wives (I'm guessing not all at once though.. then again...) and six concubines. What a way to live!

Odd though how some of his sons have the same name (I counted two Cao Jun's and I think two Cao Ju's). I guess all that pimping made him forget some other possible names


Count it again. It's six wives, six concubines, and Lady Wang for a total of 13, not 12. And it has been rumored that Cao Cao had a total of between <b>25-30</b> wives, concubines and mistressess. But these 13 are the officially recorded ones in history. So it's only Mr. Mack Daddy (Cao Cao) that knows the exact number of how many women he had in total :lol:

As for the naming of the sons, they are different names in chinese. But the pinyin for them is spelt the same way <b>but</b> with different pitches.
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Unread postby waynethegame » Thu May 29, 2003 2:59 am

[Regarding the similar names] Ah.. I see. Thanks for clearing that up :)

And once again WOW at the number of wives he might have had. Yet another reason that Cao Mengde is my role model :shock:
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Unread postby Lady Zhuge » Thu May 29, 2003 8:39 pm

Cao Cao certainly gives Kangxi Huang Di a run for his money when it comes to "planting his seeds". :lol:
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Unread postby Wizardman » Fri May 30, 2003 8:18 pm

and I thought Liu bei was popular...

wow.
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Unread postby Omniflame » Wed Jun 25, 2003 2:47 am

Was Lady Guo fake?
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Unread postby Pang Shiyuan » Wed Jun 25, 2003 10:01 am

Zhao Yi (昭儀) - bright (?) appearance

Shu Yuan (淑媛) - Virtuous and beautiful woman

Gui Ren (貴人) - noble/aristocrat...although I think Gui Zu (貴族) is the more precise word for that...
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