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Re: Favorite Musical?

Unread postby SunXia » Tue Feb 05, 2019 2:02 pm

My niece and nephews LOVE the songs from The Greatest Showman!! Me and my partner love to go out for drives most weekends and those songs are always expected especially by the toddler who belts them out no matter how many times its on repeat.
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Re: Favorite Musical?

Unread postby Dong Zhou » Wed Feb 06, 2019 5:03 pm

SunXia wrote:My niece and nephews LOVE the songs from The Greatest Showman!! Me and my partner love to go out for drives most weekends and those songs are always expected especially by the toddler who belts them out no matter how many times its on repeat.


It's alright, I forgive their tastes :wink: I'm glad they enjoy it so much

I did like Tightrope when I listed to soundtrack again. It is possibly film kept being put off due to things going on and the overhype of what I had heard, it could be just not on the day. I will be curious to see, when we watch it as a family film, if I like it more a second time or this going to be like Frozen where I wasn't more then "well that was nice enough" with the popular songs (best song is from the Christmas special) and preferred the forgotten Princess and the Frog or Tangled.

My musical tastes may simply be bad!
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Re: Favorite Musical?

Unread postby Dong Zhou » Tue Mar 05, 2019 5:54 pm

Watched the 1999 film adaptation of Joseph and the Techincolour Dreamcoat, a musical I watched as a youth and I like some of the songs, has Donny Osmond as lead, Maria Friedman as narrator. One can see why the musical works, the "safe anyone can watch" (or appear in, Richard Attenborough as Jacob and Joan Collins as Potiphar's wife) provided with a bit of spoofery and naughtiness, the lyrics with a sense of humour, some nice reasonably catchy songs (my sister hadn't heard them for awhile so was pulled in by their energy).

As a production? Its school assembly setting feels odd and buying time initially but also so they can go cheap with sets and costumes. The start slightly drags with pace, some of the acting is erratic in the early stages, the tendency to go large and cool clunks particularly in the early stages, Attenborough is not a good singer, Friedman doesn't always get the pace of the song right, the humour is badly executed, singing is generally solid. The only early song that clicks is Nicolas Colicos's version of "One More Angel in Heaven" where the humour comes close to clicking.

When it gets to Egypt, things change for the better, perhaps more in the "at least this is fun bad." The sets may be cheap but there is a more of a sense of imagination and flair, its attempts to be cool also have more flair (though Friedman's attempts still fail miserably) and weirdness that is enjoyable (like a sudden plunge into 60's clothing). Though the costumes and some of which they do arguably (strongly arguably) crosses line for a family film, there is always a difficult balance between wanting some... adult flair and fun in such things but there is very little restraint shown. More of the humour works like when brothers turn up again with their songs (bar a badly aged execution of Benjamin Calypso), Alex Jennings as the butler is the most consistent figure for humour. Too many attempts at humour still fail and Osmond fails to capture the emotion of "Close Every Door" but hits the marks with the ending phase including giving an emotional punch to it, Robert Torti adds some neat little touches to his Pharaoh but doesn't land the Elvis stuff or the sense of charisma needed.

Overall it isn't awful by any means, Joseph is a likeable musical with good songs and that comes across, I enjoyed some of the weirdness they tried, the singers were solid generally, they tried a few things. Just the delivery of humour was consistently off and the tonal shift from school to something more adult was jarring, the narrator didn't work.
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Re: Favorite Musical?

Unread postby Dong Zhou » Sun Aug 11, 2019 10:37 am

Watched cult Gothic Repo! The Genetic Opera. Premise: It is 2056 and GeneCo under Rottissimo "Rotti" Largo (Paul Sorvino) have become a powerhouse thanks to stranglehold on credit for organ transplants and their brutal repo men for those who fall behind on payments. Meanwhile ill Shilo (Alexa PenaVega) is being hidden from the world by father Nathan (Anthony Head) but will soon be involved....

The world is intresting, I liked the comic art style for flashbacks but the dialogue for much of first half can be too much exposition, camera-work and props help set up that sense of world. Has a nice strange of strangeness and that kept me in when my sister left (her attitude was fine but didn't want to watch the whole thing), some decent characters and a good cast but Rotti's children feel underdeveloped. Story doesn't quite build up well to it's end phase and feels a bit light though has some fun moments.

In terms of songs, the early ones could feel clunky with their lyrics, partly due to being used for exposition and though there were moments where the lines sizzled, it was often surrounded by clunk. Some good singers like Sorvino and Sarah Brightman but Head didn't seem to match up, Terrance Zdunich as the graverobber was decent but lacked a bit of charisma for the patter. Some decent songs in the middle like "Zydrate Anatomy", "Seventeen" but nothing I want to listen to again.
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Re: Favorite Musical?

Unread postby Dong Zhou » Thu Jan 16, 2020 8:02 pm

If you like musical, I would suggest Anna and the Apocalypse, they have some very good songs like "It's That Time of Year" by Marli Siu
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Re: Favorite Musical?

Unread postby Dong Zhou » Sat Mar 28, 2020 5:56 pm

Watched Fox's Grease: Live!, Robert Cary and Jonathan Tolins adapting a mixture of the film and musical, 20 minutes longer then the movie. Dancing champion Julianne Hough plays Sandy, Aaron Tveit plays Danny though from what I recall, the headliners were Vanessa Hudgens as Rizzo (lost father the day before) and Carly Rae Jepsen as Frenchy.

Was not a fan of the movie, Travolta was a charismatic force and Newton-John a superb singer, there were some great songs and some good scenes but we really thought the movie was longer then this production. It certainly felt longer and patchy. This film doesn't have such strong leads, they were on a hiding to nothing with the comparisons, not helped by supporting cast more famous and a bad choice by production that the opening song is done by Jessie J who performs excellently in tracking opening. I saw a film that had professional top quality singer where the leads were only actors but they did it more cleverly by singer come at ending to give a boost of star and singing power, Grease doing it first meant Summer Nights was hampered by comparison to the opening song.

The leads are good, Tviet has energy, a decent voice and charisma, he captures the sadness of his character well, Hough is a fine singer (but "totally devoted to you" shows gap between fine and an expert singer) but captures the eager innocence required of character, her dancing is superb and she acts well. They do fine with their songs and hold the production well, just don't go expecting to be blown away by their covers of the famed songs.

It is a good production, some impressive work like the moving camera for opener and the "you know the car race is still stationary cars but you really feel they are moving", some excellent camera work, uses crowd and props well, excellent set designs. A few moments where the sound equipment seemed an inch or two too far away during some songs so one had music loud and voices not quite loud enough.

Humour was a problem, some excellent lines that should be laugh out loud were killed by the performances, it was a problem from the moment the vice principle (Ana Gasteyer) read out killer lines and they fell stone dead. All the cast had this problem and I think there was a tendency to rush the delivery so the jokes didn't quite time right. Where humour did work was Haneefah Wood's reactions as the assistant to the vice principle but that was hampered by the joke delivery failing, Eve Plumb as the mechanic teacher and Elle McLemore as ambitious cheerleader Patty but those were rare spots.

As a cohesive whole, the musical has issues, characters are underdeveloped outside the two leads and possibly Rizzo though all the Pink Ladies get their own song, one wishes the dance scenes (though well done) had been trimmed to fit more character stuff in, Frenchy vanishes in the end phase and her big song ends up reminding you that they hadn't built up character well enough so were telling rather then showing.

The T-Birds work as a unit with their banter and general attitudes feeling correct but they didn't shine as individuals bar say one thing to make them stand out "plays guitar" or "useless with the ladies" and who they end up romancing. All the ladies are better developed, even comedy support characters Patty and nerd Eugene Felsnick (Noah Robbins) who are sort of 5th/6th string get better individual personality then Danny's friends. The Pink Ladies each get a song and a stronger sense of personality (though still underdeveloped) but they don't quite meld as well as the T-Birds as a group of friends.

Generally this goes along better then the film, far less dragged out moments, the support cast do a good job backing up the leads with their performances, the romances are likeable, the characters feel like youngsters who you want to know more about, the dancing and production is impressive. I had a nice time having been slightly wary of trying this.

Both: 6.5

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Watched film version of Newsies, we had seen a really good version of the song Santa Fe in a Proms collection of songs (about the only song that can be separated from the context of the musical) so wanted to give the musical a try. Was a pleasant surprise, it isn't great musically with only Ann-Margaret as Medda Larkson of note as a singer, the likes of a young Christen Bale not having a strong voice but it is good at crowd songs to cover for that with nice dancing and energy with songs fitting situation. Medda's songs are the best individually but struggle from the sense Disney strongly... cleaned it up, it feels like the songs are meant to walk that careful balance between clean language and wink wink innuendo via performance but the punches get pulled.

The songs do at least help advance the plot and hold the attention, they just lack something special. The film also holds the attention, the "urchins with urchin accents" is a little grating early on but it soon focuses on Jack Kelly (Bale) who provides a charismatic enough lead and the sensible David (David Moscow), the moment Jack meets David's family it pulls you in with a lovely and amusing enough scene. However the family gets ignored after that, romance with Sarah (Ele Keats) has charm due to scenes involved and charm of the two cast so it warms to that but it is badly spaced out with massive gaps (also her costume never gets dirty). Plot can jump about a bit and the baddie is hammily performed but there is enough charm and warmth between characters that we had a nice time and there is enough variety in the fight between poor and rich to keep things fresh.

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