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Re: Favorite Television Shows

Unread postby Dong Zhou » Fri Dec 14, 2018 3:12 pm

Watched first half of season 2 of The Gifted. It had worked on some of the flaws like the Strucker worship, is getting a handle on the Frosts and how to use them though her/their strand could use a bit of work to really impact, better logic mostly. It does lose something that made the first season so special ie the ordinary family shocked in the world but that make sense at this point and yes it loses first season sparkle. It is well made, still enjoyable show and this time instead of following two teams, Strucker/mutants vs Jace and the law, it splits into four teams without losing focus or getting confusing.

1) Struckers. Relies on the personal bonds between the family (which is strong) and the situations (less so), Lauren is the most practical and intresting figure with a tendency for parents issues to be forgiven a bit easily by everyone else.

2) Team mutant. They tend to be the strand to bring in new factors into the story
Morlocks were quite cool though their branding policy seems daft
, they initially do well with the situation but the story peters out, I wasn't that interested in John and logical during finale seemed to contract the characters and their nature.

3) Jace comes in later then others but has perhaps the most intresting/human strand once it gets going, exploring human nature and political themes
his being lured into the Purifiers
using a figure we have grown to know and they avoid scapegoating.

The other team involved season 1 finale spoilers
first season spoiler
Lorna and Andy with Hellfire club
. It is a bit mixed, it very much relies early on with characters one knows from past to get a foothold but initially feels slow to get going, once plans come into place then there is good action and scenes. I feel one key member of cast isn't quite clicking
Grace Byers as leader Reeva is erratic and not quite bringing the authority though has improved during half-season
, they bring in a character they really meshes well with another
Rebecca (Anjelica Bette Fellini) with Andy and how they reveal reasons to be worried
. It could do with less trying to be cool with outfits and hair, working a bit more on dynamics and more on the philosophy though they do well on this team's impact on the world.
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Re: Favorite Television Shows

Unread postby Dong Zhou » Wed Dec 26, 2018 11:44 am

Saw first half of latest season of Riverdale that... took a jump towards mystic. It took an episode or two for the new tone to sink in and I enjoyed it, I think it would have been helped by setting up the direction a little better in previous season, but it suits Riverdale's nature and made for fun storylines. This and the what they did Archie
made for a fun fast half but they moved away in second half and it lost something with a finale that felt too silly and trying to introduce too much.

It very much focuses on the four main characters, one or two family characters when plot needs, Ethel and big bad which leaves Cheryl badly sidelined and show misses her. Archie and Bettie have the best storylines here, tense, fits the mood, good interactions (bar Archie remains prone to being an idiot
he puts himself in jail utterly needlessly
), Jughead's is erratic with some infuriatingly Jughead behaviour and Veronica is repeating same beats. The show sometimes throws in something completely different for an episode to good effect, I found it best when it got balance right with flair and it used to the horror elements properly, maybe miss a spark of romance.
It feels like G&G plus farm where going to be the two big strands, with Archie jail time never going to be permanent then they changed mind to make it about Mr Lodge and his evil gangs, more grounded. Disappointing
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Re: Favorite Television Shows

Unread postby Dong Zhou » Fri Jan 04, 2019 12:45 pm

Watched second season of A Series of Unfortunate Events which seemed to work on (I lost interest in the books at this point so not sure how much exactly is down to this) some of the issues, less Lemmy Snickett which means his scenes are less disruptive and more effective. A bit more fleshing out of Olaf's Troupe, some welcome new additions to the adult characters with good comic performances
loved Lucy Punch's Esme
, a few more songs which were nice enough for moment but lack a bit of sparkle, better use of Olaf's opponents. There is a very good sense of a world before the Baudelaires, that when people meet, old memories/friendships/rivalries are stirred up and brought to surface.

It is still an erratic show, starting with (despite netflix attempt to skip it) the great opening song that varies each two part adventure and then.... the opening two stories and the last story were great, the middle ones dragged. When the show relies on the Baudelaires or characters their age (bar the great Carmelita Spats) to carry it, it struggles, I don't warm or particularly care for the orphans. If the setting and the guest characters are not intresting either then it relies on Count Olaf and co, they do provide humour and fun dynamics every episode but it wasn't enough. There was also one really really bad Olaf disguise that didn't help one story and just led me to groan every time he spoke.

When the guest stars are entertaining, the situation is right and the Olaf group are on fire with mixture of humour/incompetence and just a bit of threat. When Olaf is facing those from his past (usually with some great wordplay and insults), there is romantic chemistry with the adults (and some great innuendo), when the world play crackles, it is a great time. One can care quickly for the guest characters, have many a laugh, enjoy the adventure


DC and Syfy did a Superman prequel Krypton after David S. Goyer became intrigued about the planet when working on Batman vs Superman. Premise: Set in the days of Superman's grandfather Seg-El (Cameron Cuffe), the once noble house has fallen into disgrace, fallen from guild heights to the rankless poor, and the city is under a theocracy. Yet something dangerous is coming as Seg-El seeks to re-establish his family.

Bit of a punt by DC, I know Krypton has been covered by comic books but how would casual fans react to a show about Superman's ancestors without the big names they know? This did get good numbers for Syfy so it did appeal and people stuck with it. There were also various challenges, setting up sense of city (mixed), the usual new show stuff like setting up characters+getting adventure going but also had, what to do with Superman figures and if to try to bring some in
they did to good effect
, how to work with the whole "Krypton will go boom in future" issue.

In terms of, leave aside the Superman angle, it builds up a pretty good sci-fi show but with stuff to work on. Krypton looks well made by set designers and the production team, on some of the aspects of life it can be intresting like the theocracy, politics, and religion but it is awful with the rankless or a sense of how the city feels and lives. It does build a sense of the characters and the dynamics, they are generally a likeable or intresting enough bunch with good young cast, though romances fall flat and feel forced with a tendency for love triangles. Humour is poor, mostly via bar-owner/friend Kem (Rasmus Hardiker) and
early spoiler
Adam Strange (Shaun Sipos)
, rarely clicks and the humour characters feel the weak point, my fav characters tended to be the Vax ones. The adventure, both short term ones and the ones building long term go along nicely, effective twists and turns, mostly well paced.

In terms of Superman, there are some nice touches and nods for even the casual fans, they use the fate of the planet for urgency rather then fatalism, they manage to include things like Zod family or famous Superman things and decides that the El's would have reason to have or know about. They also take other measures
Superman figures like Adam Strange and more turn up via various methods, I do worry one or two more turning up might feel too much
that worked effectively but needs to be carefully managed.

-I enjoyed the Vex's, the politician Daren (Elliot Cowan), his goal for the city, his reaction to events and I hope he isn't dead. Nyssa (Wallis Day) has a certain spark and cleverness, very much feeling like his daughter and the one figure whose humour can consistently work. Worried about the clone storyline they seem to be building

-I liked the the Zod's, the stern miliatry figure Jayna (Ann Ogbomo) and the more impulsive Lyta (Georgina Campbell) the damaged mother daughter relations, learning about them, the Zod sense of duty. Throw in a certain Zod of the future (Colin Salmon) who has a sense of authority like Jayna, expirence, introduced carefully so the Zod twist worked and how that changed dynamics, one could also see where the infamous General Zod came from. Good Zod ending

-Adam Strange I didn't warm to, partly the humour thing, partly I don't think they quite pulled off his dilemma and his handling of it well enough. The scene in "current time" was intriguing

-AI Val-El (Ian McElhinney) was cool

-The costume designers and visual effect guys did a great job with Rao/Brianac while Blake Ritson does great, almost otherworldly voice. I loved his scenes, either involved with politics with Daren, discussing religion with young Ona, exploring religion and power, the sense of otherworldly intelligence

-One also got Fortress of Solitude, Phantom Zone, Cape, Doomsday, Adam Strange's time travel thing
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Re: Favorite Television Shows

Unread postby Dong Zhou » Sun Jan 06, 2019 4:58 pm

My best to worst DC half season
Supergirl, Black Lightening, Legends, Arrow, Flash though at least none of them are poor.
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Supergirl goes heavily political, using their humanity reacts to aliens to make points about modern treatment of migrants, of people fear of the other, politics and other things. It doesn't pretend, even with a symbol of hope like Supergirl, that there are easy answers, it shows willingness to acknowledge some errors of the heroes, it does show why people fall into paths of hatred and that it is rarely just a few idiots. One always know which side the show is on but it does the courtesy of trying to explore the other side and show where it is coming from. Not always well (when it goes into journalism, it can feel naive or clumsy) but I liked what they did generally.

As a show, it has mostly used the things it has learnt in past. Embed your villains deep in the story and show how they form, the baddie isn't as good as last season as lacks the emotional power that one brought but is still very effective as an intelligent, built up figure who knows the game. It has found a role for James and most of it's cast, Lena is slightly too much on the edge, it uses it's characters failings and strengths, seeks to have balance towards hope and inspiring, good adventures. Brainy makes a fairly good comic foil, it has done some logic follow on's from past events though took Alex a little time to fit into her role. One concern I have is that Nia (Nicole Maines) feels slightly underdone, a nice enough character, building one or two dynamics but we only got her in glimpses and if they want to do anything big with her, she needs more time particularly as the new character.

-Wondering when Russian supergirl is really coming in.

-I slightly worry that the President is going to be given a bit of a kicking. The Colonel (April Parker Jones) they are clearly trying to balance as a figure to show "the other side" includes good, capable figure, but at moment, Alex is a bit too right or getting away with it and the Colonel doesn't quite feel consistent yet. I liked that the last President being an alien has cuased realistic consequences

-I miss the Graves, they had a bit of flair. Lockwood though is more then capable of carrying it himself, a very clever figure who knew how to use PR, spin, show and his mind. I'm glad they gave why he changed from a liberal professor to a anti-alien figure and that he is a family man, Sam Witwer gives a very good performance.

-For some reason Manchester Black's accent takes a lot of getting used to, not helped by it being remarkably similar to Constantine's. I assume he will be a villain and again, they embed so one can see his descent into dark side, David Ajala has done a decent job so far.


Arrow badly needed to recover from a bad season, promoting Beth Schwartz to showrunner as the show needed turning around. This felt a lot better, focusing on a few storylines helped and not jumping from idea to idea, though I suspect the show still needs to trim it's cast. The seasonal villain has been weak, partly due to lack of focus, but was never the focus and they had one idea that led to some awesome action
the silencer, they loss of sound was effective for giving the action something rather different.
and they broke off at a good place with hints of what is to come in second season.

There were three strands

1) Oliver. Due to past events, this was a self contained one
in prison
, brought back some not very well used villains of the past and used them effectively, added one or two this strand only figures while kept the main cast from getting too involved. It revealed it's big twist earlier then I think they intended but had good ending action to the strand. Explored Oliver well and from a fresh angle, it looks like they have a new angle for him in future but, compared to Supergirl and past Black Lightning, felt like they flunked the chance to really explore a big political issue
treatment of prisoners, what jails are for, can justice system be trusted
, giving a token effort which made it worse then if they had simply ignored the issue.

2) Flashbacks
or flashforwards
. Something that most, including me, seemed to want dropped but they have something completely different and kept it, so far, at little bits. The main plot for this is quite intresting and it is giving glimpses at the characters but the cast for this, old and new, aren't quite gelling yet.

3) Team arrow. The effectiveness depends on the strand, Diggle is doing well, Felicity (after a slow start) both in development of herself and starting to develop a character that had struggled
new Laurel Lance
though I don't quite have faith that we won't see the old Felicity problems. Curtis remains "if he vanished, would we notice", they have struggled to find role for Curtis. Dinah has clear role but it got hampered by going for "vigilante vs law" and doing it very clumsy. These strands tended to depend on what the episode was focusing on today and so could be erratic.

-Not hugely engaged in rival Green Arrow yet. I am interested in Oliver's Arrow having to operate in the open and with police, that could be rather different and force Oliver to change his ways while being politically controversial.

-Was good to see Brick again and Vinnie Jones was used well, Stanley was good as a seemingly weak friend but the big reveal wasn't effective in execution, Ben Turner got some depth added though felt a little forced when they tried to retrospective it.

-Really thought Agent Watson would be used more and the Longbow Hunters would have more personality. I see why they kept Diaz for more then one season, his description of the pain when he hit water was well done, but he still lacks impact. Partly due to lack of time. Anatoly and Talia al Ghul is always a welcome presence!


Flash made a misstep with their costume, usually they land those very effectively but the new Flash costume just looked bad and fake, I hope that changes. It was also hampered by injury to Jesse L. Martin which meant they, with limited sucess, had to try to cover for that and failed to bring in those characters whose strands are connected to him. What they did have was a good premise for the main season
Flash daughter time travels to meet Flash
that they used very well, new addition to cast fitting right in and charming, good dynamics, exploring the idea's to intresting effect, good half-season twists, seem to have settled on a tone. The main villain was... alright, went with the less is more which built intrigue, effective scenes but was a disappointment when they did build up the baddie.

Outside of Barry, new character, Iris, they struggled. Cisco had enough going on generally to be alright but team B felt overlooked, their big strand had promises moments but overall never really worked and it feels like Catlin's potential has been wasted for a few seasons now. The new Wells is... I like Tom Cavanagh but it has been feeling like they will find any way they can to fit him into show at all costs. His Wells is annoying, really unfunny bad accent and poor jokes, it steps on what should have been Ralph's detective thing. The 100th episode was well done with it's ability to use time travel and just use "what we know now" to add context to scenes we saw in past, episoc villains tends to be squeezed out by other things.

-Cicada flash back to how he met his niece and came to look after he was painful, the acting was poor. I am curious as to the anti-meta feeling that was teased by the nurse and I am somewhat relieved at the major villain twist

-Nora was a really good addition, Jessica Parker Kennedy really landing the role, the impact of time travel, the apprenticeship, the dynamics between the two parents, how history gets changed, the meaning of duty. Not all were explored quite as well as might have been but they made good episodic themes. I did feel the way they settled "Iris put a metablocker on Nora as a child" was unbelievably weak, Nora had every reason to be angry with what was done and it got glossed over as Iris had good reasons.

-Was great seeing Wells as Thawn again

-Sorry that they never found a role for Wally who seems to have left the arrowverse.

-Really felt they could have used Spencer better, what it could have said about journalism and about new media, can be easy to forget Iris is meant to be a journalist. I liked the gentle way they revealed Nora's sexuality using Spencer. Rag Doll was apparently a waste though it did have some good horror effect and Troy James did some impressive movement work, more could have been done with Weather Witch


Crossover didn't include Legends, also acted as a "we want to make Batwoman CW, give us a chance" pitch
episode she was in
. You need to really watch all three crossover episodes to really follow it, felt you didn't need to watch all three shows to be able to enjoy crossover. In terms of skipping, one show I feel requires it being watched (unless they complete ignore events in second half of season)
the show
rather then wiki but the other two was stand alone enough and a wiki would do (or watch one or two "last time on" when seasons restart).

I'm ambivalent on crossovers of Arrowverse and some of the flaws were there, the big fight slightly going beyond the visual effect capacity, that cast aren't used to playing off each other so rhythm of delivery isn't quite right at times
double so when cast given alternate roles to play to usual characters
particularly when not involving the big three characters. The strengths were also there, the sense of people having fun, the wonderful nods
Smaville farm with Smallville music was an awesome moment
, it is nice seeing Supergirl team up with Flash and Oliver, the ability to have outside perspective or "these characters wouldn't know about this situation", thought they balanced the cast well by concentrating on those that would matter.

The adventure's villain was lacking but had a decent adventure, first episode concentrated very much on humour of situation
which led to some nice jokes but also some not quite delivered right, second and third more settled down into pushing forward with story. A key scene failed due to acting choices
big spoilers
Oliver confronting Monitor felt very shouty when it seemed like a calmer delivery would have had more emotional impact
but some good smaller moments and characters exchanges.

As a Batwoman plug, it showed glimpses of what could be done with Gotham, the baddies that can be used, Ruby Rose I thought was pretty good in the costume. Some tweaks to costume perhaps and what villains they actually showed didn't excite but only glimpses. I would give it a shot.

-I liked Lois Lane, was disappointed when clear this was to be a short role and to explain Superman's absence from Supergirl, she was feisty and intelligent, Elisabeth Tulloch did a very good job.

-Blatantly clear Oliver has offered his own life as sacrifice, it will be intresting to see how that impacts things in Star City as he becomes a more public face.

-Alternate Cisco's and Catlin's did not work


Black Lightening had a good first half to second half, splitting the show into segments or "books" like Book of Consequences and then others. The Pierce family are an intresting lot with good dynamics, they had good strands, their big bad isn't my favourite DC show villain but grew more effective, they introduced some fun new things. As it went on, some of the character strands just seemed to be dropped and it isn't clear the writers now quite what to do with all of them, Gambi still doesn't always fit, felt the show lost it's sense of Freedland.It's sense of real life issues and of creating a world still has moments but I did miss that aspect as it became more and more focused on the main 4+baddies.

I feel it's concentration and slimming down focus on the enjoyable end phase made sense for the half season but also saw a lot of strands that I was enjoying vanish either forever or for a spell and that was frustrating.

Things that got drooped
-Pierce and the school, Lynn and labwork+evil scientist, Henderson vs Jefferson, Anissia and her love life (though that one remains poor)

-They used Issa's painful power quite well

-Jennifer s therapy and the rift between her and parents was well done as was the rift between her boyfriend and Tobias

-I was hoping we would get more then two episodes of South Freedland with it's Perdi vs the Sange, I enjoyed Looker thanks to Sofia Vassilieva's performance but have their considered a more subtle racist villain?


Legends of Tomorrow knows what it is, the cult comedy show of the Arrowverse that has a small but seemingly devoted following. They made some good decisions during the break, changing the goal from fixing errors to time to dealing with mystical creatures that allowed them to visit historic moments/people but do something different. They had some fresh and funny ideas with those creatures, including one that was a very funny spoof of Disney
the blue fairy
. The long term storyline isn't quite built up enough yet, one sees the blocks are being put in place but at moment it is more about relations being built up and the adventures they are having rather really feeling they are heading towards a big clash/end game.

They have worked on an old weak point, balancing the cast. They now, in essence, a Team A, a Team B and the home team with Director Sharpe, this generally works at ensuring characters get their fair share of screen time and that each character now has a role. Some are more fleshed out then others or more focused on but it is a welcome balancing out. The new characters tended to be annoying for quite some time and take awhile to feel like "ok I see why they had them" while the balance with Constantine is wrong, too much "I'm so dark, so tragic", understandable in early episodes as they fleshed him out but became wearying and not enough of the lighter side that seen in past.

-Hoping for more Ray/Nora in second half of season

-Unicorn, the wonder, the magic... the brutality was a great way to start the mystic hunt

-Pushing Nate into home team was a surprising move but it allowed them to avoid certain Amya issues, flesh out the father and he got screen time with Ava and Gary so was a good move

-Charlie aka the new role for Maisie Richardson-Sellers, good debut with the shape changing then... struggled. Brit accent (a bad one), bit of a rebel was the impression for some time, only really began to knit together during the double episode finale. Was also wondering what the plan was with Mona (Ramona Young) bar annoying quirky and upbeat but her animal expertise helped her fit in by the end as did heart to hearts with Ava and Nora

-Enjoyed the scene where Zari mocks Constantine for actions in a bar only for it to get hilarious awkward. Zari as a person still feels a little underdone but she has become a sensible leader and a level head

-Not sure how long Mick's author creation walking around will work, his authorship tends to work best via other reactions or little glimpses

-The penultimate episode was a bit slow but I did enjoy the finale and the indulgence in it's own silliness
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