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Unread postby Dong Zhou » Mon Feb 29, 2016 7:22 am

Looks like Fine Gael remains largest party in Ireland, though it's vote share and seats has dropped, and a new Coalition will have to be formed. Gerry Adams has won a seat
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Unread postby Dong Zhou » Wed Apr 20, 2016 12:00 pm

So what do people think of Utah declaring porn a public health problem?
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Unread postby Sun Fin » Thu Apr 21, 2016 9:32 am

Dong Zhou wrote:So what do people think of Utah declaring porn a public health problem?


I hadn't seen it and haven't read their reasons but I think that there is a good case for taking that kind of stance.
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Unread postby Dong Zhou » Fri May 13, 2016 12:46 pm

Eurovision on Saturday. Fingers crossed we don't see similar bullying of young ladies like last two years (Polina Gagarina booed last year (which I had forgotten/missed), the young Tolmachevy Sisters two years ago which I well remember)
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Unread postby Dong Zhou » Sun May 15, 2016 12:38 pm

Eurovision winner
Ukraine's Jamala with 1944 thanks to popular vote. You know, the one about the massacre of her Crimean Tater's and the one Ukraine has been very vocal as "hey EEurope, let's slap Russia in the face for a third year. Vote for us" and there is a sense this won becuase of that. The song itself was done so that I don't think Eurovision could block it but Eurovision is not meant to be about giving countries a slap in the face, I think Russia has a right to be annoyed. If we were going to have an issue win, why not Serbia's one about domestic abuse? Dark day for Eurovision

Also is using the genocide of the Tater's for current political clashes a appropriate way to honour their memory?


2016 welcomed back Bosnia, Bulgaria, Croatia and Ukraine but Portugal withdrew and Romania was expelled after years of non-payment. Semi's saw some shocks with Greece and Bosnia failing to get to finals for first time ever when they have competed and Czech's get to final for first time, USA watching live for first time. Alas no naked wolf-man or BBC's sing-along (which included translation for songs that weren't in English), the latter being really disappointing. Wasn't the greatest year for songs, very few bad ones in the final but no outstanding ones for me, some really nice ones that would be top 5 or so in other years.

Sweden hosted it brilliantly, very strong stage-work at the Ericsson Globe in Stockholm. Last year's winner Måns Zelmerlöw combined with returning host Petra Mede and they were excellent, yes the jokes were staged but they pulled it off well, they were warm, friendly, likeable, kept show running on time, no stupid stunts. Great half-time show and had that spoof song "Love Love Peace Peace" been running in the contest, I would have voted for it. I did notice they slimmed down the voting system so countries only said the top score and that seemed to quicken it (didn't stay for the voting mind).

Given US were watching live for first time, understandable they went for a big US name as part of the interval. Unfortunately I don't think Justin Timberlake quite did his research, acting as if the Eurovision actss were all first-timers who had never played before big audiences. For a few this was true but some were returning, others are stars across Europe and so was a more then a tad patronizing.

the full results+my comments
1) Ukraine's Jamala with 1944 (chorus in Crimean Tatar)-534 votes (was second with jury, won the popular vote). I spoke of my feelings above so on the merits itself, Jamala was a good singer and with tears in her eyes, she did touch something emotionally. Didn't feel the song itself was more then fine. Would have had her probably in top ten

2) Australia's Dami Im "Sound of Silence" with 511. Popular with the jury but I don't think Australia entries are going to win popular votes for awhile. One of the best singers in the contest, arguably the best, not a great song. Liked the box. Midtable.

3) Russia threw everything they had at this one, Sergey Lazarev with "You Are the Only One" with 491 points. It was a good but generic song, well performed by Lazarev but the performance is well worth watching for the sheer amazing stagecraft and special effects. 4th for me, number 1 and an Oscar for sheer stagecraft

4) Bulgaria's returning Poli Genova "If Love Was a Crime" with 307, highest ever finish for Bulgaria. I think I had this in 3rd but at least 5th, good but not great song, some catchy lines, Genova herself performed with real character and spunk. Not sure why they give her LED kneepads.

5) Sweden's Frans "If I Were Sorry." with 261 points. I wasn't a big fan, the song lyrics was really good, young Frans had a good speaking style but it doesn't gel together.

6) France's Amir Haddad with "J'ai cherché/I Have Been Looking For" with 257 points. Thought it was competent but lacked a bit of energy and charge

7) Armenia sent actress Iveta Mukuchyan with "Love Wave", 249 points. Good costume bar the cape, really good dramatic build up and she has a good voice but it lacked something as a song. Midtable.

8) Poland's student Michał Szpak "Colour of Your Life" with 229. Unpopular with the jury (second to last), rescued by popular vote with 3rd. I was with the Voters on this, top 8 for me, a good sad song very well performed

9) Lithuania brought back Donny Montell with "I've Been Waiting for This Night", 200 votes. Bottom half for me, just meh.

10) Belgium's actress Laura Tesoro "What's the Pressure" with 181 points. Opened off the contest, Tesoro made a good dancer and had good energy to give a bit of oomph, song decent but she didn't seem like a good singer. Would have had her lower half

11) Netherlands Douwe Bob with "Slow Down" with 153 votes. I really enjoyed this one actually and would have been my winner, a good catchy country music song

12) Malta sent back Ira Losco with "Walk on Water", 153 points. She did really well as a singer with a nondescript song, lower midtable.

13) Austria sent actress Zoë "Loin d'ici/Far From Here" with 151. The candy background was odd but I enjoyed it, would be in my top 6. A sweet, lovely song to hear.

14) Voice-actor/singer/hairdresser Hovi Star's "Made of Stars" got 135 points. Pretty decent, mid-table one for me, the hoop was good when the lights worked which wasn't often. Hope his night was happier then the time he got homophobic abuse from Russian airport security and his passport destroyed during his Eurovision tour.

15) Latvia's music teacher Justs with "Heartbeat" with 132 points. I would have had it bottoms, Just had energy and desire but performance was poor.

16) Italy's Francesca Michielin with Italian song "Nessun grado di separazione/no degree of separation" with 124 points. A case where I suspect a translation from BBC might have helped, Michielin was a lovely singer, good stage-work sounded very nice. Top ten for me

17) Azerbaijan's Samra Rahimli with "Miracle", 117 points. Rahimli got her start wrong as her voice seemed strange, when she found her voice it was a good song well song but probably too late to get her into top half. Costume felt wrong for her as well and the backing dancers costumes felt wrong as well, she will be very disappointed her big moment ended up like that. Midtable.

18) Serbia's multilingual Sanja Vučić with "Goodbye (Shelter)" with 115 points. Good production with the sense of a cage, the male dancer playing a dangerous seducer about didn't think Vucic pulled it off. Lower midtable.

19) Freddie with "Pioneer" with 108. I preferred the backing singers to him, song was nice enough but wasn't a fan of Freddie as a singer. Would have been in relegation zone for me

20) Georgia's indie rock band Nika Kocharov & Young Georgian Lolitaz "Midnight Gold" with 104. The strobe lighting was abused really heavily and it was painful. Song and singers were fine but uninspiring and lacking something catchy.

21) Cyprus rock band Minus One "Alter Ego" with 96. Travesty of justice, was my second choice. Staging was annoying, some clever effects but then they went "let us go as shiny and powerful strobe lighting as possible", wasn't a fan of the lead singer during some moments but really good energy, catchy, entertaining beat and good song.

22) Spain sent Barei with "Say Yay!" gets 77 points. Following on from Russia's performance probably cost her, she was a good singer, gave energy and great dancing, was fun to watch. Not a memorable song though. Upper midtable.

23) Croatia sent voice-actress Nina Kraljić "Lighthouse" with 73 points. I liked the lyrics and with a better singer, it could have been a charming little number. Oversized dress for costume wasn't good.

24) UK sent Joe and Jake with "Your Not Alone", 62 points. I thought the duo were our best singers in awhile but the song was meh. Lower-midtable seems fairer then second from bottom which feels extremely harsh.

25) Czech debut was by Gabriela Gunčíková "I Stand" with 41. Was given second spot and I think that is why it suffered, was a fine but forgettable song and you need to wow at number 2 to stand any chance. Lower half for me

26) Germany's animal rights actvist Jamie-Lee "Ghost" with 11 points. The song wasn't bad and neither was Jamie-Lee but I don't know if she demanded the costume or something like that but when you have a haunted forest backdrop, what is meant to be a sad song and turn up in a k-pop outfit, you deserve to lose.
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Re: The General News Thread

Unread postby Boydie » Sun May 15, 2016 4:46 pm

Old Trafford had to be evacuated today. A bomb was found attached to gas pipe, so whoever found it has potentially saved thousands of lives.
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Unread postby Dong Zhou » Mon May 16, 2016 8:39 am

Credit to the person who found it but turned it was a training deceive for sniffer dogs that didn't get collected up at end of said exercise. Somebody has cost the public purse, business and the club a lot of money by that one error
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Re: The General News Thread

Unread postby Dong Zhou » Fri Jul 22, 2016 3:40 pm

Forgien office says 11 people under diplomatic protection committed serious offences in past year including child sex offences and human traffiking.

On a lighter note, US owes London £10,626,970 in congestion fees
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Unread postby Zyzyfer » Fri Mar 10, 2017 2:11 am

They just stared the Park Geun-hye impeachment announcement. Everyone in my office jumped on when it came on, but the announcement is scheduled to take like two hours so they all sat back down again haha

Edit: There is apparently a livestream if anyone is interested, I'll just link this: reddit link
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Unread postby Sun Fin » Fri Mar 10, 2017 11:08 am

I was oblivious to this happening, after reading your post I went away and found a few articles about it. Thanks Zyzyfer :).
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