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George W. Bush: International Man of... Hatred?

Unread postPosted: Fri Jul 26, 2002 6:56 am
by James
I am noticing more and more every day that there is a lot of foreign hostility against George W. Bush, the current president of the United States. Personally, I think he is doing a decent job as president (and I could care less about Republican vs. Democrat, lets get that out of the way right now). I look at actions.

Now, I ask everyone that hates him. Why?

Unread postPosted: Fri Jul 26, 2002 7:12 am
by Iznoach, Legendary Dragon
good question. I'm also of the persuasion that he's doing a good job. There might be some sentiment that he's corrupt or something, but what politician isn't?

Unread postPosted: Fri Jul 26, 2002 7:15 am
by James
Iznoach, Legendary Dragon wrote:good question. I'm also of the persuasion that he's doing a good job. There might be some sentiment that he's corrupt or something, but what politician isn't?

I am already aware of the reason most people use when they say he is dreadful. I am prepared to argue my point on it if someone brings it up. I have been trying to figure this out for weeks.

Re: George W. Bush: International Man of... Hatred?

Unread postPosted: Fri Jul 26, 2002 7:26 am
by Rowde
Zhuge Kongming wrote:I am noticing more and more every day that there is a lot of foreign hostility against George W. Bush, the current president of the United States. Personally, I think he is doing a great job as president (and I could care less about Republican vs. Democrat, lets get that out of the way right now). I look at actions.

Now, I ask everyone that hates him. Why?
(Expect me to challenge your view if I disagree).


heh
This is amusing. It's as if a tiger has perched itself in a tree, then announces, "Hi. I am a tiger. I am perched in this tree. Why doesn't someone come stand underneath this tree?" It will be amusing if someone accepts your invitation.

As for me, no I don't think G.W. is doing the greatest job. However, I am not well versed in the skills of debate, so I'm just going to say I hate him because he looks like a monkey.

Also, saying all politicians lie is not an excuse. They aren't supposed to. By saying this you are acknowledging that you have become complacent. Things are never going to get better if you don't demand them too. Remember that the government works for the people, not the other way around.

Re: George W. Bush: International Man of... Hatred?

Unread postPosted: Fri Jul 26, 2002 7:35 am
by Iznoach, Legendary Dragon
Rowde wrote:Also, saying all politicians lie is not an excuse. They aren't supposed to. By saying this you are acknowledging that you have become complacent. Things are never going to get better if you don't demand them too. Remember that the government works for the people, not the other way around.


I'm not complacent, but that's just reality. If you think that most politicians aren't working for their own personal gains, you're only fooling yourself, because they are. (notice: I said most, not all). Further, everybody lies, it's a fact of life and human nature. It's the ones who lie the least that we should trust and vote for...

Re: George W. Bush: International Man of... Hatred?

Unread postPosted: Fri Jul 26, 2002 7:47 am
by Rowde
Iznoach, Legendary Dragon wrote:I'm not complacent, but that's just reality. If you think that most politicians aren't working for their own personal gains, you're only fooling yourself, because they are. (notice: I said most, not all). Further, everybody lies, it's a fact of life and human nature. It's the ones who lie the least that we should trust and vote for...


I think you know me well enough to know I wouldn't think that. However, if we are acknowledging that the system does not work, why are we still using it? If we all agree that there is corruption, politicians are lying, and scandals are in effect practically every day, then why are we still adhering to their policy. Isn't it our duty to correct the system, or replace it with one that works?

Re: George W. Bush: International Man of... Hatred?

Unread postPosted: Fri Jul 26, 2002 7:55 am
by Iznoach, Legendary Dragon
Rowde wrote:
Iznoach, Legendary Dragon wrote:I'm not complacent, but that's just reality. If you think that most politicians aren't working for their own personal gains, you're only fooling yourself, because they are. (notice: I said most, not all). Further, everybody lies, it's a fact of life and human nature. It's the ones who lie the least that we should trust and vote for...


I think you know me well enough to know I wouldn't think that. However, if we are acknowledging that the system does not work, why are we still using it? If we all agree that there is corruption, politicians are lying, and scandals are in effect practically every day, then why are we still adhering to their policy. Isn't it our duty to correct the system, or replace it with one that works?


Good point, and sorry if I offended you. I'm pretty sure that somewhere in the Constitution there is a clause that states (not direct quote, but close): "when the government becomes corrupt, the fires of rebellion are needed to cleanse the land", or something like that. I think it basically advocates rebellion if the gov't becomes corrupt, which it has been for a very long time. However, if someone like me or you were to try to rebel, we would be tried as a traitor and shot (or gassed, most likely). Just look at the example of Aaron Burr, when he tried to get the area around Texas to rebel, he was tried and convicted as a traitor. I suppose it's a modern catch-22...

Unread postPosted: Fri Jul 26, 2002 3:12 pm
by Cao Ren
I don't like him, how could he go on vacation!!!!! did anyone see the daily show about that

Unread postPosted: Fri Jul 26, 2002 3:56 pm
by Shizumeru
Cao Ren wrote:I don't like him, how could he go on vacation!!!!! did anyone see the daily show about that



I didn't but he deserve a vacation. I don't hate Bush.

Unread postPosted: Fri Jul 26, 2002 4:08 pm
by LittleConqueror
Burr was power hungry though. After his failed rebellion, didn't he use his army to try to take over Mexico? He lost big time, I believe.
Bush isn't doing the best job, but not doing the worse. The economy is not getting better, and terroism still exists big time. I disagree with many of Bush policies, and he looks like a monkey. His support is going down every day, and he needs to do something big. One idiotic move of his was to announce that he was going to attack Iraq. Yeah, tick off the middle east, again, and give Sadaam warning so he make chemical weapons. Though I'm in favor of attack Iraq, we should not have announce it.