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Re: UK General Election 2017

Unread postPosted: Fri Jun 09, 2017 6:53 pm
by Dong Zhou
Lady Wu wrote:Really, the *DUP*, of all parties. I can't even begin to imagine the level of instability this is going to be.

Dong Zhou, why do you think May will be gone by year's end, and how?


1) Tories are ruthless regicides. May had enemies like Soubry, Osborne, Remainers, Cameroon's before hand, she has a hell of a lot more now.

2) Tories are really really angry. This election was the kind of election that one may never face in a lifetime, not just a dead cert but a chance to wipe out the opposition for good, to make statues dance, rainbows appear all across the land. Corbyn was seen as inept, security toxic, economic toxic so and so forth. As well as Corbyn did, May really really really... messed up the election: her performance, the very bad manifesto, the TV debate ducking. May made it very much "May vs Corbyn" aka literature would be MAY and Conservative party and the electorate have responded with a great rasberry. MP's feel her poor performance hampered them, they felt unconsulted on things like policy and tactics

3) May not doing the usual "I'm sorry for those that have lost" has gone down really really badly

As for how, they will axe her advisers and limit her for now but once there is a bit of breathing room, they will either persuade her to go or hound her to resign.

Re: UK General Election 2017

Unread postPosted: Fri Jun 09, 2017 7:21 pm
by Lady Wu
Right, and I guess it wasn't even an election you had to have, so the Tories were forced into it and came out with fewer seats. Probably not good for morale/unity.

I thought she did say "I'm sorry for those that have lost"? (Going by BBC)

Re: UK General Election 2017

Unread postPosted: Sat Jun 10, 2017 8:05 am
by Dong Zhou
Problem is her "I'm sorry" came after a major speech where she forgot to do it and so is now trying to claw back

Re: UK General Election 2017

Unread postPosted: Sun Jun 11, 2017 5:44 am
by Dong Zhou
May's loyal chief of staffs have duly been sacrificed but it only going to buy May a few months

Re: UK General Election 2017

Unread postPosted: Sun Jun 11, 2017 8:41 am
by Sun Fin
I get the feeling she is playing for time in the vain hope something might change and she can reassert herself over the party. Whereas it is clear the party are waiting for things to settle down before they go in for the kill!

Potential leaders I've heard mentioned so far:

Amber Rudd
Boris Johnson
Michael Gove
David Davies

The last of them would be my pick!

Re: UK General Election 2017

Unread postPosted: Sun Jun 11, 2017 10:27 am
by Dong Zhou
Anyone but Boris....

I can't see Gove as he destroyed his reputation in last few years, Boris is clear front-runner but I imagine if he got in that EU would try to get us renamed to "Boris is a racist twerp" among many other punishments, Rudd has handled herself well and think she leans my way on policy off top of my head, David Davies is a clever man and a charismatic man but poor judgement.

Re: UK General Election 2017

Unread postPosted: Sun Jun 11, 2017 5:17 pm
by Sun Fin
I lost all respect for Rudd after her date rape analogy about BoJo during the Brexit debate. I don't like the man but politics is not the space for those kind of personal attacks.

Please come back David Cameron! :lol:

Re: UK General Election 2017

Unread postPosted: Sun Jun 11, 2017 5:19 pm
by Dong Zhou
I forgot about that. Possibly the best behaved is David Davis with the double D's thing last time he ran the worst off the top of my head

May's reshuffle showing her very very very very limited power at moment. As pleased as I am to see her filling what holes she has with moderate and remain wing of party...