Dong Zhou wrote:At no point did I read Bush Leagues advocating child labour or slavery in that post. Wondering quite the post got so hostile.
You do the first two segments of your post WWD in a pleasant, amiable debate which is you at your friendliest, then a few aggressive taking a point directly which is perfectly good and then it just gets... an unpleasant tone.
I'm saying only that that is a highly incomplete, and indeed rather anti-humanistic, read of American history during that era. I have an allergic reaction to reading, particularly the 1920's and before, and particularly the 1860's and before, through rose-coloured spectacles. ('A time of moral fiber', I believe was his exact phrase. If you are going to make that argument, you should have to contend with slavery and child labour, along with a number of other public policy, cultural and societal choices.) Life was better for the average American in the 1950's through the 1970's, I believe, only because we placed certain regulations on the financial system and implemented measures to give more people access to a something resembling a living wage and a decently stable lifestyle. It certainly isn't as if everything was hunky-dory back then because the average individual was particularly thrifty or industrious, which seemed to be his primary point. And when BL himself mentioned that children would be better-disciplined if they lived in those times, well, that stance has some... unfortunate implications.
Dong Zhou wrote:First the equivalent of "you clearly advocate child labour and slavery you monster" (if your saying that wasn't a moral time and such light touch regulation led to horrors, there are less hostile ways of doing it but done it myself) and then the bit that concerned me:Be very careful when you talk about history, Bush Leagues. For most people the past isn't over. It isn't even past.
So a bolding for some reason (which I doubt was to highlight you love the username) plus sentences that feel like your carrying a metaphorical club and shutting down the debate.
I'm sorry, Dong Zhou. But in my own defence, I've been bolding everyone's usernames. Including Sun Fin's and CaoCaoTsundere's, in this very same conversation, if you'll care to check the edit history. (You are a mod, yes?) It's a habit I picked up on another forum as a courtesy to see when specific users are being responded to. I've also used it for titles of movies over in the movies thread. If you think it is inappropriate here, I'll cease and desist. But it's not like I'm singling him out when I've been doing it to everyone.