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Re: UK Politics

Unread postby Jordan » Sun Sep 01, 2019 11:55 pm

I listen to James O'Brien sometimes so maybe my perspective is skewed, but I don't see how Boris Johnson suspending Parliamant could in any way be conceived as a good thing. Seems like a power grab to me that's wholly inappropriate in a country like the UK. If it's not that, the best case scenario is that even less will get done and legislation or action will be even less efficient.
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Re: UK Politics

Unread postby Dong Zhou » Mon Sep 02, 2019 10:21 am

Jordan wrote:I listen to James O'Brien sometimes so maybe my perspective is skewed, but I don't see how Boris Johnson suspending Parliamant could in any way be conceived as a good thing. Seems like a power grab to me that's wholly inappropriate in a country like the UK. If it's not that, the best case scenario is that even less will get done and legislation or action will be even less efficient.


The argument that this is ok is basically, 1) this is normal and to be expected, there should be no fuss. Labour have long demanded proroguing happen due to sheer length of session (went way over the usual year mark) and new leaders are expected to do it so they can bring forward their own bills after Queen's Speech, any such bills would lack legitimacy to do so. Is this a bit tactical and stretching it? Yes but PM's do tend to use proroguing for tactical reasons

In normal times and with a normal not this record length, it would be expected for Boris to do so and using the conference break to do would make sense. They also argue there is enough time after (just no constitutional expert seems to agree with them) for Brexit bills

Or 2) yes this is a bit dodgy possibly but Boris has no chance due to parliament's divisions and Remainer's are being undemocratic so only way to ensure democratic vote is upheld is to suspend parliament.
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Re: UK Politics

Unread postby Dong Zhou » Mon Sep 02, 2019 6:09 pm

Boris addresses the nation, lots of Brexit, opposition to purge, Corbyn speech
-Papers on Boris threat to purge the party, most wary of Gove's comments bar the Sun (I won't quite the editorial as it is written with the insults and immaturity that is just embarrassing to see)

-Number 10 declares tomorrow vote on who controls the agenda is a confidence vote, Boris meets cabinet at 5pm then makes statement at 6pm. Talks going well which he sees for three reasons: EU know UK wants deal, UK has vision for Brexit and is prepared for no deal but MP's would undermine it if they block no deal. Queen's speech is only so he can bring in reforms and change for the country, no chance he will delay Brexit and he will get deal at EU Summit in October, doesn't want an election and his opponents don't either (pundits see this as his positioning blame on others for the election he will call if he loses)

-Fury as Gove suggests government would ignore any legislation passed blocking no deal, Gove says won't be food shortages (this is being disputed by the industries) but prices may change both ways, International Development Secretary Alok Sharma says parliament should give Boris time to get a deal, SkyNews saying they have seen more recent documents saying Dover delays in no deal could be up to 48 hours.

Government will index-link pensions of British nationals who have retired in the EU till 2023 if no deal but unclear what happens after that, McDonnell says no deal blocking plans will be published tomorrow. Vadaker expecting to meet Boris this week but current alternatives to backstop are not satisfactory, Sturgeon would back early election but has to be before Brexit day.

Williamson calls for discipline from MP's and backs purge, opposition bill published by Benn sets two deadlines: 19th October where parliament has to decide delay, deal (if one is available) or no deal with delay deadline being 31st January, Scottish Lord Advocate backing Gina Miller's prorogation appeal in courts

-Williamson looking at raising starting salary of teacher's

-McDonnell wants rented properties to be buyable at government set discount for tenants

-Boris family adopt rescue dog called Dilyn. It is adorable and is an election strategy at least in part

-Charles Walker, co-chair of 1922 and Brexiteer, warns against purging ranks as extremely unpleasant and they served government loyally, Rudd saying it would be unfair given no such punishment happened to those that rebelled under May and that opposing no deal is a legitimate position

-Rees-Mogg attacks doctor who helped compile mortality rates of no deal in Operation Yellowhammer as a Remoaner and irresponsible while questioning the competence of his plans. That may not be a wise strategy, picking a fight with a doctor.

-Corbyn calls government a phony populist cabal, would never ignore parliament like Boris has threatened, no deal is a Trump Brexit with Boris prepared to dance to Trump's tune, who do people trust on food supplies: industry or Boris, government letting hedge funds and speculators call shots rather then those who make things.

Labour's fund for regional transformation is 70 times bigger then Boris, will extend work-place democracy. Election would be only after no deal blocking had passed then says would back election in any circumstance so some confusion going on there, seems like the former is the current position with Chapman says they would not accept election that ushered in no deal

-Lord Fowler, Speaker of the Lords, makes clear his objection to any attempts by Boris to flood Lords with 100 Brexit peers (though experts have pointed out that the 2 a day rule means Boris would only manage this by Christmas)

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-Lord Heseltine condemns government allowing takeover of Cobham

-Blair warns that election would an elephant trap Labour must avoid and instead insist on referendum, governments should not take decisions of such magnitude of Brexit on basis of everyone is bored of it, government is in hands of adventurers but the appeal of that after time of paralysis should not be underestimated, Boris will target Corbyn's unpopularity at election.

Brexit party will fold into Boris ranks but Lib Dems won't and neither opposition party will do well enough to stop Boris, Brexiteers have not explained why Brexit is so difficult as there are three types of Brexit, debate is bitter as about values and culture rather then just EU, shadow of WW2 not helping Britain.

-Gordon Brown wants plans to stop food shortages if no deal to be revealed, Hammond demands proof that Boris is getting anywhere in talks

-Gauke warns if push comes to shove he will put national interest above party interest while he explains why he is opposed to no deal and how his views on Europe evolved., gives chances of no deal if rebels fail this week at 95%, has written to Sir Cox to check government will obey law.

-Boles considers the Tory party he knew as dead with the hard right having a religious obsession with Brexit and taken party over, remarks “some people in the Conservative party who are willing to sell their principles at a pretty low price in exchange for a job in the cabinet despite what they’ve said previously about a no-deal Brexit.”

-Owen Smith urges Labour not to accept early election

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-Richard Seymour Farage has been effective

-Katy Balls Tory MP's face dilemma as party changes drastically

-Kuessenberg Boris plans

-Robert Peston on extraordinary week

-Tom Peck on Gove and Vote Leave takeover
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Re: UK Politics

Unread postby Jordan » Tue Sep 03, 2019 11:00 am

Right, I probably should have edited my post at some point as I heard and read in various articles myself that this happens, but the extensive length of the proroguing has not occurred since the 1940s or something along those lines. I saw an interview with Rees-Mogg about it and his defenses did not seem very strong to me.
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Re: UK Politics

Unread postby Dong Zhou » Tue Sep 03, 2019 3:05 pm

Boris has lost his majority after Dr Lee defects to Lib Dems. I would normally say election coming (and may well be) but Westminster has worked out Boris can unilaterally change election date after parliament has dissolved and number 10 denials they would ever do such a thing are not working so that complicates things

Jordan wrote:Right, I probably should have edited my post at some point as I heard and read in various articles myself that this happens, but the extensive length of the proroguing has not occurred since the 1940s or something along those lines. I saw an interview with Rees-Mogg about it and his defenses did not seem very strong to me.


Do feel free to ask here, it was a good question.
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Re: UK Politics

Unread postby Dong Zhou » Tue Sep 03, 2019 6:44 pm

Boris loses majority, Brexit, election talk, retirements, ERG select new leader, Boris struggles in Commons
-Pundits confidence that if Boris loses votes, he will call an election for the 14th October though one wonders if Electoral Commission might block that date due to it being impossible for Jewish community to vote that day. Also been noted that a PM's powers would allow Boris to promise a more popular date for election then change it though number 10 vows they would never do that.

-During Boris statement about G7 Dr Philip Lee crosses from Tory benches to Lib Dems, while a defection is embarrassing at the best of times Boris majority is wiped out. He has zero. Zilch. Dr Lee says he joined under Major but it is no longer the same party, pursuing Brexit in unprincipled ways and damaging the country, it's union it's economy, it's diplomatic standing, jobs at risk, feels Lib Dems best placed to unify country again. Swinson welcomes his parliamentary experience and professional expertise, Boris managed to wish Dr Lee best of luck and all the best.

-Rayner thinks Boris has bottled it, number 10 briefing that Boris impression is EU won't budge till Remain is off table, Corbyn says Boris speech all about the Tory party. Mike Pence (in a press conference with Convney) says US will be a constructive partner on Brexit to both UK and Ireland, to support Good Friday Agreement and stability, will speak to Boris and is building a better understanding of N.Ireland issue then later tells Ireland+EU to show good faith in UK and respect UK sovereignty. Gove cancels publishing of latest Operation Yellowhammer report, European Commission considering counting no deal as an emergency disaster to allow hit countries to apply for such funding,

Foster says people need to focus on Brexit not potential election, Raab says rebel alliance bill is deeply irresponsible and denies government want election a 100 times (while government brief about election), Dr Fox backs purge. Blackford says autumn election would allow Scotland to push for Independence, EU Commission helpfully says there are more meetings with team Boris but no progress has been made.

Tony Connelly with what EU states are being told, Baroness Smith moves to ensure Brexiteer Lords can't filibusterer Remain alliance bill. Chief whip Nick Brown tells Labour MP's Labour won't back election and let Boris stew.

-Hammond's local Tory party has, with wording and timing, made a strong stand behind their MP by reselecting him.

-Papers on Boris speech and likely election, Telegraph and Sun call it bold, Telegraph claiming Cummings says EU talks as a sham (Barwell says he has heard similar)

-Justine Greening to retire over concern party has become Brexit party and can do more for social mobility outside government, been planned for awhile but no-deal vs Corbyn is a lose-lose election. A loss, her background gave clout, she was an able if sometimes overlooked cabinet minister for Cameron then under May though that was marred by fundamental disagreements. Could run departments and a good performer in media and Commons, has been a leading member of the Remainers. Critics she she is jumping before she loses her seat

-Keith Simpson to retire before age becomes an issue, the long serving MP and master of the holiday reading list was a shadow minister and under Lord Hague held post in Foreign Office, the military historian has been on select committee's and is a well liked, respected figure

-Boris meeting with potential rebels apparently went down badly and may have cost Boris the support of Sir Soames. Press well aware Boris may be about to purge the grandfather of Churchill from Tory party

-Alistair Burt to retire over Brexit policy as a committed Remainer (and known to view Boris with contempt). A respected and popular foreign minister, didn't manage to get people arrested by Iran so never up for leader, a thoughtful spokesperson, polite but could be scathing against own side on certain issues, knew his brief and could be trusted across departments.

-Pound rallies at news Boris has lost majority. Ouch. May sitting next to Ken Clarke also looks very very very happy

-G7 Statement: Boris to meet Vadaker on Monday, more confident then ever that deal will happen, remain bill is "surrender" bill which would cause UK to have to beg for a delay and is without precedent, Corbyn still a Bennitte seeking protests in the streets. Huge fan of Ken Clarke, dodges around if he has actually published backstop alternatives for EU to consider, won't comment on Telegraph leaks or on Sonia Khan's sacking, gets annoyed at being asked about the "negotiation are a sham" story, warns ERG he will purge any who don't vote for a deal he brings in

Corbyn says term surrender is wrong as we aren't at war with EU and Boris government has “no mandate, no morals and, as of today, no majority”, Ken Clarke asks Boris to admit Boris strategy is to set impossible conditions then blame failure on EU and seek election. Pundits feel Boris inability in the Commons getting badly exposed as less flamboyant MP's ruthlessly target his weak spots

-Steve Baker has become head of the ERG again, was very successful last time and may not entirely be the result Boris team would have wanted even if Cummings isn't the best fan.

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-Brady says Boris is very keen to avoid election, Lord Hague calls for election and can not defend proroguing

-Guto Beeb scathing as he says no dealers are not conservatives, Farage says Boris simply wants to reheat May's deal rather then a clean break, will be problems short term if no-deal but as a trader he knows they can be overcome, Sir Grieve says up to Corbyn if an election.

-Hammond to back Benn/rebel alliance bill and thinks there are enough Tories for it to win, will be a fight of their lives if Tory HQ tries to overall his local party and sack him, will defend Tory party from entryists trying to turn it into a sect, Boris not being honest about progress in Brexit talks as Boris has not tabled alternatives to backstop, Sonia Khan would have good case in employment tribunal.

-Jane Dodd no doubt having an interesting first day in Commons

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-Stephen Booth no deal needed to get deal

-John Ashmore hyperbole is ineffective from both sides

-Professor Anand Menon no deal makes things more complex
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Re: UK Politics

Unread postby Dong Zhou » Wed Sep 04, 2019 7:51 am

Boris loses first vote, Parliament seizes control of timetable, Boris starts to purges his party, Rees-Mogg has horror show, attempt to revive May's deal
-Parliament seizes control of timetable by 27, 328 vs301, 21 Tories rebelled. Boris second day in parliament and first ever parliamentary vote. Not just lost, his literal first vote, unclear if any PM in history has managed that. #Winner.

Bad for Boris, not fatal by any means and may play into election hands if he can get it. He came in as the winner of the summer, easily winning Tory party leadership, a very effective summer of policy announcements, discipline, building momentum towards election, high polling, opponents looking incompetent and divided. In one day he has blown that, not so much losing (though that is bad) but way Boris is clearly to blame, attempts to bully rebels has backfired, he performed badly in Commons as did his choice of minister Rees-Mogg (see below), meeting with those concerned drove people into arms of the rebel alliance. He no longer seems like the all conquering winner but vulnerable now, the old questions about his ability to command the House has returned ten fold.

Maybe he can ask those who have actually won a Commons vote for advice? Sir Major, Blair, Brown, Cameron, May. All he can learn from!

-Boris to table bill calling for election to be enacted if he loses today on no deal, to give public a say on who goes to EU summit as parliament on verge of handing control to EU and wrecking talks. Thornberry says Labour may abstain or vote against it due to concerns about Boris trickery with dates and wants block on no deal first, Corbyn says only if no deal block is there first as does Blackford and Swinson

Been clear his strategy, or at least back up one, is to force an election if him vs parliament and squeeze out Remainers time but as Ashworth said, they could trust May to stick to the date and not change it afterwards so will be harder then he was expecting. Problem for opposition is having called for elections, public will find it hard to understand why they refuse and so they need to find a way to prevent Boris and co switching dates while avoiding looking like all talk but no guts.

-Tories purge the Churchill family, two former chancellors, leadership rival including whats-app group, removing whip and be intresting to see if they are barred from running as has been threatened. Full 21 axed from Tory whip: Beeb, Benyoun, Brine, Burt, Clark, Clarke, Gauke, Greening, Sir Grieve, Gyimah, Philip Hammond, Stephen Hammond, Harrington, Margot James, Sir Letwin, Milton, Noakes, Sandbach, Sir Soames, Rory Stewart and Vaizey. Cleverly tries to justify this purge of Tory ranks "It is a very long-standing convention that an MP who votes to remove executive power from their own government and hand it to the opposition has the party whip removed."

Most people won't know who these people are but words purge may make people uneasy, I think he can get away with whip removed but will look bad if he follows through with barred from running. The two ex-chancellors will also give some punch that these were senior figures in the party. The grandson of Churchill is bad optics and if Boris tries to use WW2 or Churchill as he loves to do, the purging of Sir Soames the grandson of former Tory PM will come up by interviewers and rivals again and again.

-Some Labour MP's, 17 calling themselves UKLabour, trying to revive May's deal via amending today bill. Bit late and not sure going to work

-Please note this is a may rather then 100% fact but I believe spending review may be turned into written statement rather then oral due to timetabling issues.

-Rees-Mogg performance has gone down badly it would seem with Tory MP's apparently visibly enraged, says Bercow is impartial and admits it isn't improper but decision to allow timetable bill was irregular (Bercow has cited past precedent and defended his decision), accuses Letwin of stunning arrogance. Government follows constitutional conventions unlike some in the Commons, parliament's power comes from people and breaking that is dangerous, going against such rules as Commons was trying risked path to tyranny, "the most unconstitutional use of this house since the days of Charles Stewart Parnell, when he tried to bung up parliament”. His having a lie down during debate (this may have been to put himself close to hearing microphone but lying down on green chambers is still weird) went down really badly, Boris took over the aftermath when Rees-Mogg was meant to which shows government realized the problem

-Letwin says will be hard to get new deal by January 31st but impossible by end of October, Corbyn reminded Tory MP's standing by principles don't always damage career prospects, Ken Clarke says no deal against parliament wishes sets dangerous precedent and mocks Rees-Mogg arguing for WTO rules. Boles urges Tory rebels to join him as independent so they can become a parliamentary force, Dr Fox says look at what chaos France has gone through since France ignored vote against EU constitution. Sir Grieve reminds Rees-Mogg that Letwin held high office for a lot longer then Rees-Mogg has, Soubry says people need to be able to face their grandchildren on this, Sir Jenkin says referendums have created a confusion of legitimacy

-May's big smile as she left Commons has been well noted
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Re: UK Politics

Unread postby Dong Zhou » Wed Sep 04, 2019 6:17 pm

spending review, PMQ's, Brexit, Boris still losing, Carney
-Papers on Boris loss of control, Express says Parliament has surrendered to EU, Telegraph agrees with purge to prevent a election victory that results in same problem

-Boris win ratio: 0%. Loses first reading on no deal blocking by 29! 329 vs 300, Dame Spelman crossing over to team rebel but Boris doesn't treat it as a confidence vote so she is fine. I suspect attempts to bring back May's deal will be defeated as neither frontbench want it so Boris will get a victory today

-Some confusion as Leadsom said rebels would be given second chance, they are not. Ruth Davidson tweets "How, in the name of all that is good and holy, is there no longer room in the Conservative Party for @NSoames? #anofficerandagentleman"

-Sir Soames retires, a defence minister under Major and who left shadow cabinet under Howard, tended to back modernisers like Cameron and Sir Stewart. Benefited from the famed ancestry but was an amusing speaker, a fun turn of phrase and flamboyance who was not afraid to let his views be known in chamber or in media (or social media where he has proven good at using it), a very passionate Remainer but one who was inclined to back Boris yesterday until a really bad meeting.

-October 15th current planned election date but Sir Stramer says they won't vote for it as they don't trust Boris but they may to no confidence to take over control of parliament, Labour PLP urge Corbyn not to go for snap election till November while Stramer indicates Labour's position is no election till after bill is passed and implemented but Corbyn's spokespeople disagree and only when passed, McDonnell says taking it day by day but indicates he shares Sir Stramer's concerns. Thornberry has openly admitted Labour have yet to decide as things change hour by hour but she wants to give Boris a few more weeks to damage himself

-Apparently May's eyerolls were epic but fury among press that Rory Stewart sacking was done via text, Cummings not being a member of Tory party ever is being well noted and commented on

-Employment Minister Mimi Davies on improving employment market

-Sir Curtice on no deal polling

-Marks and Spencers off the FTSE100, any other time this would be headline news and end of days

-Carney says a Brexit delay would be helpful but worst case scenario is not as bad as it was due to preparation, no deal would hurt economy, food price hikes would be less then expected but still a 5-6% rise, refuses to commit to a third extension (if new extension passes he would be leaving on Brexit day), warns advanced economies are on verge of manufacturing recession. Trade deals take 18months-4 years so some transition would be helpful, no deal slump would only be 5.5% now

-Scottish courts say proguation was lawful (expect this to be appealed)

-Government and allies in Lords throw 86 amendments into Baroness Smith's bill trying to prevent government timing out any no deal-blocker bill in Lords

-Boris booed at PMQ's, May positioned herself between Sandbach and Ken Clarke (neither Tory members now)m, Boris tactis to challenge Corbyn to put his "surrender bill" before the people at an election and seemed to ignore most of the questions anyone asked, has to be reminded not to call Corbyn by name. Corbyn kept his head, pointed out lack of answers and asked good questions with a good winning performance, plenty of former Tories got called and they did nothing to help Boris or seek his future favour, Tanmanjeet Singh Dhesi's powerful question (which has been highlighted by American congresswoman Ilhan Omar) about Boris past comments about Burqas and demanding apologize got applause (as did Swinson's backing of him), Margot James cutting reminded Boris of Thatcher's remarks about advisers.

-Javid goes way off his remit in spending review speech with Bercow having to reign him in with quite a severe rebuke. After a long long delay game opening says will review fiscal rules (so going to break them?), culture department drawing up plans for youth investment including youth centre, 14 upgraded diplomatic posts, no departmental cuts means end of austerity. McDonnell says starting to miss Hammond and calls spending review a grubby electioneering bribe and full of meaningless platitudes, funding doesn't fix the deeper cuts that have hit

Spending will go up £30.4bn, 6.3% rise for Home Office with strong hints it goes to police, double funding for protecting places of worship, 30 million extra to protect children online, 5% rise for Justice department, 6.2billion extra for NHS, £1.5billion extra for social care, 54 million extra for homeless. Additional 432 million to Defra with 30 million each to air strategy and biodiversity, additional 200 million for buses, 160 million for Scottish farmers. For Education he goes for three year rather then one with extra 7.1 for schools by 2022-23 and by then starting teacher salaries will be 30k, next year every secondary school will have 5k per pupil and special needs funding will be up 700 million, further education to get 400 million extra. 500 million for sporting events and 90 million on diplomatic staff, 2.6% on MOD

-Trump says no need to worry about Boris as Boris knows how to win

-1922 meeting with Boris seems to have seen MP's back the sacked and Boris trying to blame chief whip

-Boris will open election debate

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-Baker calls for election pact with Brexit party, Farage delighted that Baker is head of ERG

-Jared O'Mara trying to postpone his retirement

-IDS seen picking nose last night

-Jess Philips on domestic abuse bill vanishing

-Ken Clarke says Tory party is Brexit party re-badged under a knockabout PM with most right-wing cabinet he has ever known, Rory Stewart says no deal Brexit is a poison pill that will divide for 40 years and may stand as independent, Beeb says Rees-Mogg single-handedly cost government four votes.

-Joanna Cherry did not comes well on politics live

-Swinson hopes for more defections from those unhappy at Tories or Labour direction

-Gale urges Boris to sack "foul mouthed" Cumming and if Boris doesn't then maybe 1922 can act, Margo James calls Cummings very dangerous and treats people very poorly

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-Tom Kibasi Boris brought defeat on himself

-Paul Goodman Tories are changing forever

-Aditya Chakraborrty on indifference of public

-Gideon Skinner on the polls
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Re: UK Politics

Unread postby Dong Zhou » Thu Sep 05, 2019 8:22 am

Boris wins a vote, no election, May's deal returns from the dead
-Boris won a vote, beat Richard Graham's amendment to vote on any deal day after summit 495-65, majority of 430. Sure the rest of the votes went badly for him, sure it needed opposition help and he hasn't won a direct conflict with others but we must adjust our exceptions to the blond wonder.

-May's deal is back by default, in a bizarre Boris shambles, he would have won this but failed to put Tellers to count the vote so Kinnock's amendment to bring back May's bill goes through to fight one more time. Some wondering if some cunning plan is behind this. Benn/rebel alliance passes third reading 327 votes to 299 so wins by 28.

-Election bid fails, Labour abstained so 298 For, 56 Against but needs two thirds of parliament and 434 votes so failed badly.

Boris says parliament has scuppered negotiations and have been derelict in their duty (then leaves during the debate), Corbyn says at least May gave detailed speeches and Boris can tell neither parliament or EU his plans as he has nothing, Ken Clarke called for more time but warns EU may be desperate for deal but not enough to wreck N.Ireland or the single market, IDS says opposition should put up or shut up. Jess Philips rages at Boris bully-boy tactics and she has no faith in anything Boris says and Boris is playing a game without telling anyone the rules and trying to game the system, he is not telling anyone anything. Caroline Lucas calls election plan a desperate and cynical move when he should own his mess, Jenkin wonders why anything would change with another delay and zombie parliament will struggle for legitimacy

Afterwards Boris says Corbyn said stop the coup but now says ‘stop the election and stop the people from voting" and thinks Corbyn is first opposition leader to refuse an invite to election, doubts opposition can maintain a position of cowardice. The purged included friends of his and he is sad but they were warned of the consequences. McDonnell says deal can still be done, wants election but need to ensure Boris can't cheat in a no deal and doesn't trust Boris, opposes election before October 31st

-Thoughts: More damage for Boris, more defeats, a farce with May's deal and Cummings will have to adjust tactics as not going to get the election he wanted. They may try to wind down the clock and ignore the no deal block or find other ways of killing the rebel bill. I expect at conference and for awhile a lot of Corbyn too scared to face Boris, contempt for the people as they block Brexit and won't go to polls to let you decide talk and that is a problem for Labour who will have to explain why they avoided an election. Be intresting to see what happens now May's deal is back in contention, will it be killed off due to it being an error or will some start to cling to it as a way of preventing no deal?
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Re: UK Politics

Unread postby Dong Zhou » Thu Sep 05, 2019 6:16 pm

Brexit, Boris use of police, Rees-Mogg attacks doctor, Labour confusion on election with Boris trying again on Monday to go to polls, Jo Johnson leaves brother
-Papers on Boris being cornered or in Telegraph, Sun and Mail say Corbyn is a chicken, Scottish sun haunts all who see it

-Barnier cancels speech in Ireland for fear it will risk undermining chances of orderly Brexit and inappropriate to make a major speech while UK is in fierce Brexit battle, rumours he has told EU leaders that talks are in paralysis. Lords sit till 1:30 AM due to filibustering and 100 amendments but Lord Ashton makes agreement with Baroness Smith to ensure rebel bill passes by Friday afternoon, McDonnell says Boris is having a tantrum. NHS trusts in Kent block-booking hotels to ensure their staff can get to their jobs

Gove says they will comply with law on Benn's bill and on the future "The future is known only to the Almighty." (committee chair Benn noted God is not a summoned witness to the select committee), Barclay refuses to deny government is rowing back on 2017 commitments to Ireland, Gove to meet Covney this weekend. Verhofstadt unhappy with surrender talk "Opposing a no deal is not "surrender". This is the language of Europe's dark past. It implies Britain's European allies & neighbours are enemies. I refuse to believe the majority of British people think this is the case.", Welsh Assembly formerly vote opposition to Boris proroguing and Brexit strategy.

-Labour put out press release that contradicts Stramer saying election once Benn's bill gets royal assent, Healey refuses to say he would campaign for Labour's Brexit deal, McDonnell indicates Labour may wait till after Brexit day. Labour MP's have been very vocal on this but Abott says they must be prepared for election after assent. Government to try again with early election on Monday as by that point, Benn's bill will have Royal Assent and Corbyn's argument for refusal (having been reluctant to go with his cabinet on past Brexit date) will have been met so making it harder for Corbyn to refuse

-Gauke formerly expelled from the Tory party which he had to find out from his local chair, wryly notes "I finally have something in common with Dominic Cummings."

-Sir Fallon retires, a reliable figure in position then in government for likes of Cameron and May, Osborne's fixer and eye on departments he wasn't sure about, good with finances, a very safe pair of hands on the airwaves as one of those figures "oh dear, we are in trouble, send for the cavalry", a experienced hand as a minister who rose to defence secretary where he was respected on all sides. However his horrible behaviour that, for years, he got away with was finally exposed as culture changed about how woman should be treated and forced out.

Dame Carline Spelman to retire, a long serving shadow minister who served as Cameron's environment secretary for two years, a former party chair who long had an interest in rural affairs and was a respected figure in the Tory party, became the church's spokesperson in the Commons.

-Jo Johnson resigns as minister and will retire , says the conflict between family and his country has become too much. This is devastating for Boris, "his own brother doesn't trust him" will come up again and again and again, people won't know who the respected junior minister was but they will pick up brother conflict. Respected in Westminster as a bright mid-ranking minister who got the wonk jobs, would have had had hopes of promotions in more stable times, a Remainer who despite his public discretion was known not to be Boris biggest fan, not happy with no-deal plan and deeply unhappy about the purge.

-Burt warns purging could happen to others, "I will walk out of here looking up at the sky, not down at my shoes.", rumours Gove led a cabinet revolt on the issue

-Javid says his objection to proroguing was if it was for months, sad to see 21 MP's including close friends axed (does not deny he rowed with Boris over this) and not something he wanted to see but Boris warned this would happen

-Sterling has a revival after last nights events

-Bercow backs shorter recess for conference weeks

-Boris tells Mike Pence NHS not for sale and UK not keen on chlorinated chicken, Pence says trade could quadruple with US-UK deal and Trump considers Boris a friend

-Drakeford calls no deal a disaster for Welsh economy while initial impact will be missing things on shelves, holidays being a tad more difficult and medicine disruption, wants general election but wary of Boris using it to change date, against electoral pacts. Won't release Yellowhammer papers has given to him on confidential basis, Welsh Labour will be a Remain party

-You remember Rees-Mogg got in a row in phone-in with doctor who worked on Operation Yellowhammer? Rees-Mogg used parliamentary privilege to compare the doctor to the anti-Vaccine doctor, this has caused outrage among politicians and medical community.

-Boris turns up for speech over an hour late, didn't please press or the police he posed in front of (which was controversial) with policeman starting to faint near the end of his speech, got no response when asked for police caution to be recited and made a meal of reciting it himself. However being seen in front of ranks of police saying he would rather die in a ditch then delay Brexit may prove effective

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-IFS says austerity is over but not all money pre crash has returned and fiscal rules could be about to change

-Nandy “If I’ve learnt one thing about Boris Johnson over the last few months, it’s that you can’t trust a word he says.”

-Lord Kinnoull threats to our trees

-Former MP Jamie Reed on impact on those threatened with deselection, Damien Green as leader of One Nation group demands reinstatement of the 21 and terrible practical politics to look so narrow before an election, Hoare suggests Tories should be Churchill not Stalin and something disturbing about the purge.

-Sir Grieve feels May missed an opportunity in January in not putting her deal to people in referendum, Lord Falconer thinks prorogation will be upheld by cautious courts until the Supreme court where the real battle will lie, Lord Hague with a strong attack on Commons overreaching and incapable of meeting the challenges. Plaid leader Adam Price "To the leader of the Conservatives, your undemocratic behaviour and of your friends in Westminster with Brexit have killed the idea of a Welsh Conservative Party stone dead. Alun Cairns as Sec of State for Wales has as much legitimacy as Carrie Lam does in Hong Kong"

-Luciana Berger has joined Lib Dems, will be a welcome addition, an intelligent and liked MP who did good health work as a shadow minister, a good spokesperson. Labour has to tip toe around her, she was the one defector there was a "don't attack given what we did", adds to Swinson's momentum with two additions in a week with one on each side

-Credit to Swinson, not sure how many party leaders would agree to go on a midweek polticslive to face Andrew Neill

-Farage notes centre of Tory party is rapidly shifting

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-Toynbee Javid has not made up for damage of austerity

-Bobby Friedman urges Tories to stand candidate in Bercow's seat

-Tom McTague chaos shows British constitution is working

-Kuessenberg on Boris battle to get election on his timetable

-Katy Balls Boris still has ways to avoid having to request an extension
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