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Re: UK Politics

Unread postby Dong Zhou » Tue Jul 23, 2019 11:21 am

Boris is our new PM

Surely our first PM that has managed to jail an innocent civilian in hostile hands via not reading their brief, possibly not the first PM where questions about treason has been raised, possibly not the first to have been sacked for lying but doing so twice might be new.

At his best, a focused Boris could be a great PM with his intelligence, charisma and (now diminished) ability to reach out,a man who tends towards the liberal tradition but history has shown a man lax in his duty, careless, a man willing to divide who has used the ugliest of language about Muslims, gays and BME's. Has huge challenges ahead with divided party, a country which economy is struggling and has some long term problems like social care plus, of course, Brexit. Can he really do better then May?

With our two party leaders, we surely no longer call ourselves a tolerant country.

Worrying times, I hope UK nationals abroad can stay safe and Boris will prove me wrong, finding the very best of him rather then the one that coasts and plays to audience.
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Re: UK Politics

Unread postby Dong Zhou » Tue Jul 23, 2019 6:12 pm

Boris and reaction, new chief whip, some cutting EU comments, Blair not 100% sure he will vote Labour
Boris wins 92,153 vs 46,656 on 82% turnout, 66% share (Cameron's was bigger), announcement delayed amidst rumours Boris and Hunt had big chat before hand. Boris jokes he will steal Hunt's ideas, Tories have best instincts and know how to make conflicting instincts work for wider good, talks of desire for partnership with EU, jokes his acronyms is dude "deliver, unite and defeat" being added with energize, not seen as his best speech but he has one at Downing Street tomorrow. Got huge thumping of desks in 1922 committee, nobody quite clear if he ruled out early election and if he committed to October 31st Brexit date, did pledge ultra-fast broadband in every office is badly misprounced, help for high street, more ships

-Trump quick to congratulate Boris but claiming he is popular as seen as UK's Trump may not have helped, nor the suggestion Boris and Farage will work well together. Hunt and May does so soon after and the usual "hey congrats" from political and foreign leaders. Of note: Sturgeon sends congrats but says she has concerns and urges no deal to be taken off the table, Barnier congratulates Boris and looks forward to Boris ratifying the withdrawal agreement. Swinson doesn't congratulate and says not fit to be PM, Plaid welcome this gift to the cause of independence, Ruth Davidson offers congratulations says Boris faces a challenging time ahead while making clear she will speak for Scotland and he has to do well early (pretty clear Davidson is not pleased). McDonnell "This first Johnson speech is excruciatingly and embarrassingly underwhelming. It was a like an ill prepared after dinner speech at the local golf club."

Hammond focuses on Boris wish for a new deal which he whole heartedly backs, Ivanka Trump congratulates Boris on being Prime Minister of the United Kingston, Corbyn says Boris has not won support of the country and calls for election with Labour going hard on friend of the super rich angle. Farage points to do or die pledge and wonders if Boris has the courage, Vadaker looks forward to early engagement on the border issues, Merkel wants great friendship

-Not a surprise victory but I think it will surprise nobody that it isn't the result I wanted. I think Boris has the talent and potential to be a great PM, charismatic, very intelligent, a great orator (though not in Commons setting but neither is Corbyn), his liberal instincts are ones that could appeal to those in the middle. Being ambitious is not a crime and neither is backing Brexit even if I disagree strongly with it, if he knitted his talents, cut out the issues and bravely stood for that liberal view of the world, he could be a great PM. However history shows a man who lies (twice been sacked for it), who picked Trump over his diplomat, a dangerous disdain for detail that has cost one woman her freedom, lazy, use of "toxic" (or outright racist) language that drives division and alienates allies then tries to blame it on jokes being misunderstood, a man who does not react well to scrutiny.

He faces major challenges where yelling optimism won't solve. He needs to heal relations with foreign powers who consider him a joke or have been insulted by him, he needs to woo a civil service he has betrayed and undermined, there are major structural challenges the UK has to face but has not been able to due to Brexit. Everyone has their hopes at how Boris will handle it, those hoping he will bring EU to heel or crash out vs those who feel it is all a bluff and he will take a minor change then use his silver tongue to sell it. One side is going to be badly disappointed and outraged at being betrayed (they won't blame themselves) with eyes going to be on his Downing Street speech and construction of cabinet to see which way he goes. In terms of healing divides, there is only so long "promising or saying little to both sides" will work, Boris has long had enemies among MP's (and Scottish Tories are deeply unhappy) and it would seem the magic he once cast over country has been wrecked by Brexit and will be difficult to get back.

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-Marc Spencer the New Chief Whip, the deputy leader of Commons and former dairy farmer, appointment has gone down well with all sides, seen as firm, fair, a man who seeks to build consensus, well liked (apparently a great sense of humour and pie baker). A Remainer but got blessing of likes of Baker, as a former whip and as deputy leader of the house he will know well how the Commons operates. Rest of cabinet is expected to be formed tomorrow evening

-Government suspends decision on Huawei as they wait to see how Trump's ban actually unfolds, wants to end smoking by 2030, announces new public sector payrises.

-Tom Watson under pressure over his role in Carl Beech case, he denies putting undue pressure on police to believe Beech allegations against Tory figures

-Papers on the convicted Carl Beech with questions about police and Watson, Boris, Iran, Swinson

-Gauke warns Tory voters will go to Lib Dems if no deal and clearly parliamentary majority against no deal so is risk with a confidence vote as they approach October deadline, Brokenshire says Boris is right person to get deal with Europe and persuade parliament to back it

-Labour peers decide not to hold confidence vote but warn Baroness Hayter has their full backing, Labour says eight party members were expelled in the first six months this year over anti-Semitism allegations but got 625 complaints during same period. Jewish Labour movement wants independent process

-John Mann, chair of the parliamentary group on anti-Semitism, appointed government adviser on anti-Semitism (Labour will hope it's members do not respond angrily to this, not even in the normal "treason" way at any working with government)

-Resignations: Skills Minister Anne Milton as opposed to no deal and thanks May for support for woman like her and for work on further education. Stewart indicates he will join Gauke and Hamond going tomorrow

-May given handbag and jewellery by cabinet, she has promised full support to Boris from backbenches

-Vytenis Andriukaitis, the European commissioner for health and food safety,says Boris is as trustworthy as Yeltsin and as prone to unrealistic promises as the USSR. Frans Timmermans on Boris "I would just suggest that you look at what he has been writing over the years. He took a long time deciding whether he was for or against the EU".

Norbert Röttgen, chairman of the foreign affairs committee in Bundestag "What a historical coincidence: The day #BorisJohnson is elected, it becomes evident that experiencing an international crisis, the #UK, like any other small and middle power, depends on #European solidarity to defend its security interests internationally." Macron with a very pointed "'I want to thank Theresa May for the good work we've done together in recent years. She showed a lot of courage and dignity while working with us. She never blocked the functioning of the EU and she tried to serve UK interests."

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-Raab says Boris best placed to unite the party given scale of MP's backing and has the self-belief the nation needs, Sir Fallon says Boris, emergency, optimism and fresh mandate could see new deal

-ChangeUK members praising Swinson, the Lib Dem leader says she will be speaking to MP's across all parties who might wish to join or form alliance

-Blair refuses to say he will vote Labour at next election, he is struggling with anti-Semitism (makes clear Brexit is a not a deal breaker)

-Nigel Evans "The only thing that’s certain is that Larry the Cat is going to stay in place as the Downing Street cat. Prime ministers come and go, Larry remains in place."

-Charles Walker asks party to be kinder to May's successor then they were to May

-Sir Ellwood says MP's should give new PM a fair shot so he will serve

-Keith Simpson describes 1922 meeting as having so many jokes it was like a circus and was... blunt about those seeking preferment ""they were all in the body of the Kirk, trying to look as if they are not ambitious little sh..."."

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-Beth Rigby warns Boris has to survive first 100 days

-Kirsty Strickland Boris will exceed low expectations

-Grice challenges facing Swinson

-Zoe Williams Corbyn's team need to get out of their assumptions and focus on Boris
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Re: UK Politics

Unread postby Lord Yang Jiahua » Wed Jul 24, 2019 8:49 am

Was waiting for a major development before Posting again.

To Nobodies Surprise, The Brits have Elected Prime Minister OOF ! (Or Oaf, but that word isnt used anymore).

From what ive read on here, and heard sometimes on the news, he sounds like well, British Trump, slightly more sensible, slightly better use of the English language, but still Trump. Doesn't seem like he or anyone in Britain will go outright Fascist though, public spirit in Enlightenment and British Political values seem very central to the British view of the state, unlike America and our "values".

Do you think He'll take Britain into War if we go to one with Iran? The Iranians jacking a British Tanker recently doesn't seem to help.
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Re: UK Politics

Unread postby Dong Zhou » Wed Jul 24, 2019 3:58 pm

Lord Yang Jiahua wrote:To Nobodies Surprise, The Brits have Elected Prime Minister OOF ! (Or Oaf, but that word isnt used anymore).

From what ive read on here, and heard sometimes on the news, he sounds like well, British Trump, slightly more sensible, slightly better use of the English language, but still Trump. Doesn't seem like he or anyone in Britain will go outright Fascist though, public spirit in Enlightenment and British Political values seem very central to the British view of the state, unlike America and our "values".

Do you think He'll take Britain into War if we go to one with Iran? The Iranians jacking a British Tanker recently doesn't seem to help.


No we didn't, a small Tory party membership did. :wink: We have had no say and polls suggest if down to public, Hunt would have beaten Boris.

Boris being a mini Trump is popular image and while Boris is cravenly worshipping Trump and sacrificing the UK interests to do so, he isn't Trump. Boris is far more intelligent despite his awful errors and is more a liberal, pro-immigration, pro-social advancement (a modernizing centre right Tory seems to be his instinct), he has also spent a long time in politics. The problem is more Boris will drop those if it will give him a moment's popularity and indulges in racist, homophobic sexist jokes to generate a headline. I'm not so convinced we wouldn't vote a Trump figure in though

Boris is pro-America and tends to favour war but Iran has, thanks to Boris failing to read his brief, a useful political hostage and he may struggle to get a war through the Commons right now.
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Re: UK Politics

Unread postby Dong Zhou » Wed Jul 24, 2019 6:56 pm

Boris axes 16 members of cabinet, people give last thoughts on May, record PMQ's
Reshuffle: With whip sorted early, badly hampered by Hunt's refusal to take a demotion to defence. Leaving new posts till tomorrow but 16 of the cabinet have either been pushed out or gone


Resignations: Hammond too give successor a free hand in choosing someone more aligned to his views and hopes successors to May/Hammond use the choices their hard work has gifted them wisely. Lidington goes, praising the civil service impartiality, Gauke resigns vowing to continue to fight no deal, Grayling resigns (jumps before pushed?), Stewart resigned.

Hammond was always going to go, hated by Brexiteers for daring suggest unicorns are not an option and for not allowing no deal preparation in time, a respected figure with a political tin ear, he managed the books well but was constant frustration with others (including May) that he refused to let money be spent on major projects like housing reform or causes as he tried to get deficit further down and I suspect that will be the issue he is bemoaned for. Lidington was loyal and calm deputy, his stints at PMQ's were popular and was highly respected for his knowledge of whatever issues he was required to deal with, Gauke was Osborne's skilled "in trouble, need spokesperson" and as justice secretary had sought to be a more liberal regime and was respected but perhaps struggled for major cutthrough outside of Brexit. Grayling was loyal and may have had skill as a political operator but infamously incompetent in any post he was in and there were celebrations whenever he left a post, Stewart was a very very vocal opponent of Boris and the Brexit he supported but gained more respect from Westminster having risen through the ranks and doing unusual things.

Sacked: Dr Fox, perhaps paying for constantly contradicting Boris claims about trade and no deal Brexit, has gone. Not respected, left defence in scandal, failed leadership ids and miserable record in terms of even roll over deals so a fresh face was probably needed anyway. Unsurprisingly Greg Clark sacked given his known opposition to no deal and he decided to force Boris to sack him, a liked and thoughtful figure but hadn't been able to create a strong industrial strategy amidst Brexit chaos, was a respected figure in his rise. Brexiteer Morduant resigns/sacked after 85 days as defence secretary which has some as a shock, plenty who backed Boris thought Morduant with her defence background should stay in post but the Hunt rumours suggest Boris wanted her move or gone, was making a bright early impression and was well regarded as junior minister, feels like a needless enemy created.

Quiet Remainer Damian Hinds left education, May loyalist Karen Bradley sacked after an awful time as N.Ireland secretary where she lost support in the province and didn't seem at all to understand the situation or bring credibility to the role, respected Communities Secretary and May loyalist James Brokenshire was generally a safe pair of hands wherever was sent. Scottish Sectary David Mundell's refusal to accept no deal was a breaking point, helped the respect of Scottish Tories and Boris may find one such man difficult to replace. Hunt axed after he refused another post yesterday, became awkward when that happened as both a test of Boris authority and about his being a unifier, in the end Boris seems to have decided to ignore "reaching out" and show authority via flexing his patronage muscles, Hunt was a good Health Secretary and a decent Foreign Secretary, weaknesses tended to be when he tried to show how tough he was.

Mel Stride gone after only nine weeks in cabinet after being a competent and relied upon junior minister, immigration minister Caroline Nokaes was a backer of Hunt and perhaps toxic after handling of Windrush got heated but deserved better the to find out via another, Jeremy Wright sacked from culture after a quiet period

Being seen as a destroy team Hunt. Was known the soft Brexiteers would either resign ala Hammond or force way out like Greg Clarke, Hunt situation could be overlooked given the circumstances but was not a great look but Morduant, Mundell and Hinds sacked has left the feeling of a purge. A loft of the soft-left have gone Cameroon and May loyalists gone, Hunt's team gone, anyone who wasn't part of team Boris sufficiently has been axed to free up posts for others. This feels badly unwise, he has created a lot more discontents then needs to with such a small majority, angered Ruth Davidson and not sure this is a direction I like but this has been impressively ruthless and is a drastic change of government.

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-Boris appointment of sky executive Andrew Griffith as chief business adviser a tad controversial given Griffith lent Boris a mansion for the campaign. Rumours of Dominic Cummings return to politics is not going down well given he was found guilty of contempt of parliament, let alone the Brexiteers he has insulted and the civil servants he has long warred with. Appoints David Frost to Europe team, an expert on Europe affairs and a former ambassador who advised Boris but has been some concern at someone outside civil service being given the role.

-Papers on Boris, they expect big job for Patel, been noted English sun and Scottish Sun have very different reaction to Boris

-Leadsom pitches for treasury job but seems an outside shot, Harper seen as pitching for N.Ireland post, Hancock rules out election pact with Farage and says he has been surprised at Boris skill with detail

-Labour NEC agree to fast track major anti-Semitism cases but Labour's Jewish MP's and Jewish Labour Movement seem unhappy at lack of independence

-Odds on Gerard Lyons becoming Carney's successor has greatly improved now Boris is PM

-Public Accounts Committee warns government land sales for housing are going to miss target by a mile with targets unrealistic and planning confused

-Government appoint Imam Qari Asim, deputy chair of the Anti-Muslim Hatred Working Group, to lead a process to establish a definition of Islamophobia.

-Sir Roger Scruton reappointed to his former housing adviser post

-May's chief of staff Barwell says May's concern for the union and N.Ireland meant she was against no deal, EU says there will be no side deals and the stuff Boris as such are temporary unilateral actions with Barnier saying EU is prepared for no deal

-Blackford says Boris could be last PM of UK, Gardiner admits Labour talking to Tories about confidence vote

-May isn't ringing with endorsement for Boris at PMQ's, her last jab at Corbyn was quite effective as she gently urges him to recognize time is up and retire. In departing speech says there is much to be done, PM is a heavy honour and nothing can be achieved alone, hopes she inspires young girls that nothing is impossible, Brexit needs to be one for whole of UK.

-Boris first speech as PM is Britain will prove the gloomsters wrong, he will take personal charge of solving social care, wishes to unite country and improve productivity of the "awesome foursome", promises right to remain for EU nationals, wants new partnership with EU, no deal is a remote possibility but one we must prepare for and business difficulties is more about a lack of decision. Wants free ports and to do something about ports, push for 20,000 new police officers will be started today, will relax rules on GM foods, wants a replacement for EU's Galileo

-The long serving Lords Chief Whip Lord Taylor resigns but not to do with Boris and more wanting a break having served in that role since 2014.

-PMQ's a record 65 minutes as MP's pour tribute and warmth onto May (they seem less keen on Boris), given a standing ovation by all but Labour.

-Tusk letter of congratulations to Boris is three lines, very very very curt.

-Noakes found out about sacking via text from Daily Mail journalist

-Ruth Davidson on Mundell's sacking "While David chooses to conduct himself publicly in a typically understated manner, his strategic brain has been at the heart of the rebuilding project of the Scottish Conservatives.On a personal level, David handled his coming out as the Conservatives’ first openly gay cabinet minister with customary care and grace."

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-Professor Curtice says public admires Boris for character, determination but distrusted on honesty and competence while very divisive with Remain voters hating him

-Sammy Wilson says Irish border problem is illusionary and can be ignored, Green MEP's Magid Magid and Alexandra Phillips set out case for Remain and bemoan Boris being leader, Church Leaders from Methodists, the United Reformed church, the Baptists, the Church of Scotland, the Salvation Army, Quakers, and the Scottish Episcopal church worried about no deal on disadvantaged communities and want impact published

-Jared O'Mara's communications manager decides to resign by using O'Mara's twitter account ""Jared, you are the most disgustingly morally bankrupt person I have ever had the displeasure of working with, Sheffield Hallam deserves so much better than you. You have wasted opportunities which people dare not to even dream of."

-Farage open to election pact with Boris if genuine about deadline but warns he struggles to believe Tories on this, feels only way Boris can get pan through is via a general election to change numbers in Commons and a Brexit-Tory part would wipe floor with left, wants Raab as Foreign Secretary.

-John Crace "Theresa May arrives to loud hypocritical cheers from Tory benches. Days like this Westminster is a sewer"

-Cameron warns Boris needs to listen to talented civil service

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-Katy Balls Leavers now in charge of Brexit

-Behr Boris will govern poorly and embarrass country but will be PM for a long time

-Kuessenberg Boris in difficult position

-Sarah Smith on Boris and the union

-Aditya Chakrabortty despairs at Boris
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Re: UK Politics

Unread postby Dong Zhou » Thu Jul 25, 2019 10:51 am

Boris cabinet and thoughts
Boris cabinet:

In Big Four posts: Sajid Javid as Chancellor as had been (amidst a few others) been rumoured. A Remainer with Brexiteer sympathies (one suspects a Brexiteer whose loyalty to Osborne won out), did fairly well in leadership bid, his tale acts as a counter-point to Boris and traditional Tories while his views on finical policy (Thatcherite, small state, spend on no deal prep, tax cuts and infrastructure spending) would generally seem to fit with Boris, highly experienced in finical matters so while it goes a direction I don't support, a good choice. Priti Patel as Home Secretary on the other hand... well hopefully won't require many planes. Another BME and a female in top post looks good, a Brexiteer however her last post did not end well, she is also extremely hardline (her immigration views vs Boris liberal ones could a clash) and pro-death penalty. Dominic Raab become foreign secretary and first secretary of state aka Boris deputy, clearly his leadership bid has worked out for him. Another Brexiteer, known in EU circles as Turnip and hopefully won't need to go through Calais, the lawyer is going to have a hard time winning over diplomatic circles I suspect so odd choice. Certainly articulate but not sure a man who is unaware Calais and Dover are key has a nuanced understanding on such matters. All three are children of immigrants, wonder if the public will pick up on that and the messaging from team Boris about this (do they embrace it to show their liberal modern edge or do they hide it away to avoid spooking those against immigration?) while Labour may have an issue with how much younger the three are compared to Labour's.

In Brexit related posts Steve Barclay stays which surprised me, not been a keen no dealer and not made a major impact but may be seen as a reassuring keep rather replacing him with a hardliner, of more note lose control of no deal planning but regains control of EU talks after losing it to cabinet office. Liz Truss gets Trade, had been linked with Chancellor job or business so not as big a promotion as she would have hoped, a strong social media figure with a sense of humour, has been seen as a good negotiator within the Treasury and a big advocate of free trade so could make a good spokesperson. Bit of a weird one as Gove moved to Chancellor of Duchy of Lancaster with charge of no deal planning, had been promised a promotion and not easy to see it as such but depending on how Boris uses him, could be important and no deal planning suggests it will be. Role tends to go to the fixers like Lidington and Letwin who work behind the scenes to deal with any trouble areas, can also be used as "Minister of Today program" which would suit Gove's media strengths. I am disappointed he has left a front-line ministerial post given his ability for reform. WTO Brexit backer Theresa Villiers gets environment and with rural affairs a big part of that post, a very Brexit related post and will be expected to prepare farmers for no deal, has not always got on with sheep farmers and very much not a green figure but has interest in animal welfare. Julian Smith moved from chief whip (which was filled early) to N.Ireland which is technically a promotion but takes him away from the heart of power to a difficult and lesser known posting, one where his relations with DUP may prove useful. Geoffrey Cox stays as Attorney General, had backed Boris early on but is known to be keener to salvage May's deal then Boris is and some in ERG won't be happy

Not so Brexit: Long term Boris ally and safe hands Ben Wallace moved from home office as security minister and gets defence, a former Scotts Guard who served in N.Ireland and was seen as a figure due a promotion, he is known to have wanted this post. Matt Hancock stays, he had hoped for a promotion so keeping him put is seen as a ruthless move and it is questionable if this was really worth his dignity and crawling but is fairly recent to Health and the social care issue will be a big push so Boris can say this makes sense. Gavin Williamson gets education despite wanting defence (85 days after being sacked) or N.Ireland so getting a non security sensitive post may have been civil service putting foot down given the Huawei leak accusations on a man who had been key for Boris victory via bringing MP's to Boris. Comprehensive educated and a fan of technical education so might be interesting to see what he does about that. Nicky Morgan gets Culture, given her known scepticism about Boris and being from left of party, will be seen as a coup but other posts+sackings+this is a fairly small post for a figure of her talent which means this won't be enough to claim it is a broad reaching out cabinet. Leadsom gets business which is a big promotion, worked in the city and deserves promotion after good work as Leader of the House. Remainer but keen Boris+Trump backer Robert Jenrick promoted from treasury and gets housing and local government, the lawyer has been rising quickly through ranks but doesn't seem one of his areas of interest and his three homes will be pointed out a lot.

Rudd stays as DWP and gets equalities post, she will see her recent change of tune on no deal as paying off and Boris will hope that, like Morgan, this will reassure the left of the party but only Hunt supporter to stay. Prisons minister Robert Buckland gets Justice, former solicitor general and a lawyer who knows the department so seems a good choice, a Boris backer who helped sell Boris to the left and a one-nation figure. keen Boris backer from days at foreign office Alok Sharma promoted from employment to being in charge of Dfid, the accountant hasn't been well noted on aid but has foreign office experience while being from India may be good PR, feels like another finance figure to keep eye on budget of a department Boris has talked of axing. Grant Shapps spreadsheet work on MP's views was seen as key for Boris and he is rewarded with transport which is a job he wanted as is a huge fan of infrastructure, was a capable if sometimes mocked minister till he fell from power in scandal. After only two years in parliament Alistair Jack gets Scotland, a Brexiteer businessman but not gone down well in Scottish Tory ranks but Ruth Davidson has been polite. Baroness Evans stays as head of Lords, Boris backer Alan Cairns stays, cabinet office goes to Oliver Dowden as paymaster general, had been the man preparing Boris and co for government and will be important in implementing their plans quickly, was Cameron's deputy chief of staff and knows the department.

Junior ranks attending cabinet: Early Boris backer and businessman Rishi Sunak becomes Treasury second with the two not both BME for first time, long time ally and rising figure James Cleverly becomes party chair and minister without portfolio, will be in charge of rebuilding the party base and campaign strength so is important, popular with the younger members of the base and expect him to be used in media a lot. McVey as housing minister and she has pushed on this issue as part of her leadership campaign for Blue Collar Conservativism, Jo Johnson holds posts in business+education, may be awkward for the brothers who have very different views on Brexit but Jo Johnson is well regarded as a minister, Rees-Mogg given leadership of Commons, be interesting to see how he actually does now given something to organize, gives Boris the ERG blessing and his courtesy+knowledge of parliamentary procedure will be tested in months ahead. Unusually he is not given full cabinet but will attend. Hard line Brexiteer Kwasi Kwarteng moved from Brexit department to business, worked in finical services and been climbing the ranks gradually Brandon Lewis removed as party chair for immigration which is a post he has held before and did well with, a good minister.

Overall: Very much a no deal cabinet, very much rewards for the Boris loyalists who had been useful or really lavish, the ERG have more reason to be pleased then the Tory left despite presence of Cox or Morgan. The big posts have been filled with Brexiteers and figures on the hard right, this is not a cabinet of unity, reaching out or one nation Tory despite some token names in the lower ranks

Boris has been utterly ruthless (I suspect overly so) but many of his appointments, even if I am not a fan, there are reasons for posts the individual get but two of the big ones makes no sense. Plenty of narrative, amount of woman, amount of BME's, the narrative of migrants, BME and youth at the top will provide a challenge for Labour if Boris chooses to run with it. Expect a government that goes for investment and limited finical regulation, push for no deal and animal welfare, hard-right direction at home and scrap green matters

Yay's: Cleverly, Jo Johnson, Morgan's return even if bigger post was more deserved

Make sense: Javid, Truss, Villiers (though NOOOOO on green), Julian Smith, Leadsom (slightly sceptical this will work out), Shapps, Wallace (if not for Morduant issue, this would have gone down well), Rees-Mogg (though bit of a slap to not be in cabinet), Dowden, McVey, Leadsom, Kwarteng, Lewis, Buckland, Jack, Sunak

Weird: Gove (also noooo), Sharma, Jenrick

NOOOOOOOOOOO: Raab, Patel, Williamson, Boris
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Re: UK Politics

Unread postby Dong Zhou » Thu Jul 25, 2019 6:15 pm

Brexit, Boris addresses Commons
-Vadaker invites Boris to a 1v1 meeting, looking for detail behind slogans but warns Ireland red lines have not changed and the renegotiation Boris has promised isn't going to happen. Sunak believes we can keep £39 billion if no deal, McDonnell says Labour would look at any Boris deal but doubts it will be acceptable. Scottish and Welsh government have joint letter urging Boris to drop no-deal, give more says to them and for a meeting soon. Barnier emails EU leaders saying Boris demand to remove backstop is unacceptable, Alister Jack makes clear he will only back no deal if sufficient preparation, Junker says current deal only one possible

-Apparently some in team Boris had not forgiven Morduant for indicating she would back Boris before she backed Hunt, if that is the reason she was axed: petty. Extremely petty. Some wondering if Hunt has erred as defence post is considering important by some in Tory rank so refusing it could look bad, SNP calls it worst cabinet since Thatcher and one Farage+Trump would be proud of. Thornberry worried at direction of Foreign Office, Kwarteng was appointed very late because he didn't answer his phone all day (really strange thing to do on reshuffle day)

-Seems like Dominic Cummings is all but confirmed. Will be interesting, undoubtedly a very intelligent man, a radical with vision who helped Gove drive through education reforms (and shared contempt for education establishment) and mastermind behind Brexit's victory. He does have a radical/burn it all strategy, his contempt for civil service, political class and others are well known, he has been very clear about his feelings towards likes of Farage and Bernard Jenkins as helping Remain, he defied Westminster with refusal to appear before select committee inquiry, he is going to cause a lot of headaches and there is a lot if ill-will towards him.

-Lavery's attack on the new education secretary might have been more effective if he had it when there was actually an education secretary at the time

-Press see it as a no deal and prepare for election cabinet with Vote Leave team restored, papers shocked at the ruthlessness

-Boris reveals Queen told him "I don't know why anyone would want the job." In first statements to MP's, talks of optimism needed, matter of trust to Brexit on time, time limit on backstop not enough as backstop undermines British democracy and Irish question should be settled in future trade talks rather then now while there are alternatives to backstop. Preparing tax cuts and economic stimulus package, proposes Australia style immigration system to migration commission to explore and considering an amnesty for illegal migrants, May's deal has been voted down three times so can't be used, MP's have already voted for Brexit, Whitehall departments should pay cleaners living wages. Dodges around anything that might be acknowledging error or fibs

-Tory donor Sir Mick Davis has resigned as chief executive of the Conservative Party to allow Boris chance to pick own figure

-Blackford warns SNP government are considering plan to bring forward referendum

-Government has dropped the infamous migration target

-After Boris Commons display, press certain of an autumn election

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-Fair play to climate change protesters for grabbing a moment to block Boris route to Queen without causing real trouble

-Sir Grieve bemoans party being taken in by a charlatan, Boles "The hard right has taken over the Conservative Party. Thatcherites, libertarians and No Deal Brexiters control it top to bottom. Liberal One Nation Conservatives have been ruthlessly culled. Only a few neutered captives are being kept on as window dressing. ", Vaizey says people should brace for no deal and for Brexiteers to blame Remainers if no deal goes wrong. Brine not a fan with backbench now frontbench and Morduant puzzles him

-Crouch ruled out cabinet post (had been linked with culture sectary) due to wishing to spend time with her child

-Lib Dems try a motion of no confidence

-Francois says Boris should immediately start free trade talks with EU (who have refused to do so) and May's deal is dead

-Kendell "If optimism was all it took to get things done, thousands of people would be spending this blisteringly hot sunny day waltzing across his garden or jetting off on holiday from Boris island, as it is people need real solutions to their problems,"

-May watched cricket with Gauke and Greg Clark during Boris statement

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-Beth Rigby Boris cabinet is one bunkering down for fight

-Goodman Boris was ruthless

-Reality Check looks at spending pledges

-Tom Kibasi thinks Boris choice of could mean soft Brexit more likely

-Fintan O'Toole says Boris can't bluff EU as everybody knows he is lying

-Professor Andre Spicer has issues with some of Cummings ideas
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Re: UK Politics

Unread postby Dong Zhou » Fri Jul 26, 2019 5:23 pm

more junior reshuffles, Brexit, number 10
Junior reshuffle Passionate remainer Stephen Hammond removed from health unsurprisingly, Harriett Baldwin perhaps punished for reporting Boris team to information watchdog by being removed from foreign office and Dfid, George Hollingbery removed from trade with his praise of the sacked Morduant maybe not helping his case, hero Tobias Ellwood removed from defence despite efforts to cling on but known to oppose no deal

Boris loyalist Nigel Adams given sport, a known facing fan and former member of the culture committee so well suited, rising figure Lucy Frazer demoted from socliciter general to justice as prison minister. Boris allies Kit Malthouse promoted from housing to police having handled it in London Assembly, Boris former PPS Conor Burns gets trade, not sure his qualifications on that one. Defra and rural communities may be reassured as George Eustice returns as farming minster, experienced hand Theresa Coffey promoted higher up Defra, whip Chris Pincher goes to Foreign office where he has shown some interest and served as Hammond's PPS when Hammond ran the foreign office, former Boris PPS Andrew Stephenson at foreign office and Dfid but doesn't seem to have much experience in either role.

Chris Skidmore moves from university to junior role at health which seems a bit of a demotion but did serve on health select committee, Chris Heaton-Harris gets transport, not sure the Brexiteer has any big interest in that area. George Freeman returns to officer in transport which doesn't seem his sphere but he is a policy man which could be useful, whip Baroness Goldie moves to defence which hasn't struck me as her area but glad she got a promotion, culture minister Lord Ashton now Lords chief whip having once served as whip. Nick Hurd moves from Home Office to N.Ireland (don't know if the Hurds have a connection with the area) but remains minister of London, transport minister Michael Ellis promoted to solicitor general (he is a trained lawyer), Children's minister Nadim Zahwai gets buisness and as a former businessman+member of the business select committee he should fit.


Less of the ERG (helped by Baker there), more those who backed May's deal and Boris loyalists. Could tilt balance if Boris government last a few years as the supply chain is not hardline.

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-Juncker and Boris swap numbers, Smith goes to meet Conveney who warns Boris statements are no basis for an agreement and instead deliberately set a collision course but hopes Stormont resolved in a few weeks, Number 10 saying no point in Brexit talks with EU till EU accept backstop has to go and apparently Boris has told Macron+Merkel this. We won't nominate a new EU Commissioner, Boris has been invited to Berlin, Nancy Pelosi warns congress will block UK trade deal if UK risks Irish border

-Rees-Mogg jokes even he goes online occasionally, says Boris is against archaic measures like proroguing, did fairly well with the jokes

-Papers on heatwave, Boris vs Corbyn or vs Eu

-Patel says recruitment pledge is start of new closer relationship between government and police

-Boris "ignore what Corbyn says and bulldoze him" was deemed to be effective

-BBC the background of cabinet in numbers

-Tories testing out Boris facebook ads but Number 10 pushing back against idea Boris is preparing for elections

-Will be a national police board to ensure recruitment happens

-Rumours DUP really wanted Julian Smith as N.Ireland Secretary, also rumours Boris has suggested a dog for Downing Street

-Boris now "minister of the union" and number 10 says his calls to leaders of the four nations were positive

-Trump hadn't actually phone Boris to congratulate him.

One would think Boris overthrowing UK ambassador for Trump would get at least a congrats phone call

-Fiscal targets under review

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-Steve Baker rejects post, was expected to get a big one and went in happy then came out unhappy, unclear what went on but Baker has hinted he felt new job in Brexit department would leave him as powerless as the old one.

-Jared O'Mara taking time off to deal with mental health and personal issues

-Farage setting up group in US called World4Brexit 9which seems to be spreading false rumours about extent of Soros donations to Remain), says he has doubts about Boris actually Brexiting

-Bone says he would take job if offered but extremely unlikely, suspects Baker is aiming to head Treasury Committee


-Mundell says he will not shirk from challenging Boris if his policies threaten the union

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-Marc Wallace on Steve Baker

-Larry Elliot Boris recognises problems that led to Brexit but has wrong solutions

-Iain Dale a centre right cabinet, Brexit, leadership ambitions restart

-Matt Honeycombe-Foster points out summer recess is not the same as summer holiday for MP's and staff

-Helen Pidd Boris could be good for the north
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Re: UK Politics

Unread postby Dong Zhou » Sat Jul 27, 2019 5:26 pm

Breixt, USA, anti-Semitism
-Blackford says he will change PMQ's style now facing Boris, didn't get on with Salmond when party treasurer, loved being a finical analyst in the Netherlands

-Rees-Mogg says MP's wouldn't dare to overturn the activation of article 50, Vadaker warns no deal would undermine the British union and turn people towards a united Ireland

-Papers on Brexit and travel chaos

-Raab says trade talks with other countries like US will step up before Brexit deadline with Trump saying talks on a substantial deal are underway

-Boris pledges fast train-line between Leeds and Manchester

-Shadow Immigration minister Afzal Khan apologises for sharing anti-Semitic conspiracy when he was an MEP in 2015, he has a good reputation for working with different groups in Manchester and helping found Muslim Jewish Forum of Greater Manchester but this has put him under pressure.

-Lord Bourne resigns from Wales and housing posts as opposed to no deal

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-Pound feels Labour should have joined the ovation to May, a bit of generosity of spirit and respect wouldn't have gone amiss even if frontbench couldn't for political reasons

-Children's Commissioner of Wales has written to Neil Hamilton to complain of his launching a personal attack on Greta Thunberg, he says a 16 year old autistic child is fair game due to her arguments on climate change

-Swinson says next election Lib Dems may not stand in all seats due to agreements with other parties

-Andrew Bowie warns it would be reckless of Boris not to take Ruth Davidson's advice

-Margot James says cabinet has moved drastically to right, wouldn't run as Tory at election if manifesto advocates no deal

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-Kuessenberg 10 notes about Boris plans

-Nadine White new cabinet has not been met with joy among black communities

-Freedland urges Labour to follow Boris and form a Remain bloc of it's own

-D'Arcy Boris style may backfire over time in Commons with Brexit battles ahead

-Patrick Wintour profiles Cummings

-Iain Watson predicts early election
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Re: UK Politics

Unread postby Dong Zhou » Sun Jul 28, 2019 5:25 pm

Rees-Mogg's grammer instructions, Brexit, Jared O'Mara resigns
-Papers on Brexit and a sense Boris has had a good few days

-Gove says government is assuming no deal, Javid promises money for extra 500 border force officers and possibly improved infrastructure at British ports.

-Boris promises Manchester-Leeds rail as he feels it would bring colossal benefits to north and buses need to be improved, Burnham says he will wait and see if it happens, McDonald says Boris record on failure to get infrastructure through leads to doubts

-Jared O'Mara resigns as MP so will be a by-election in Sheffield Hallam, probably Labour vs Lib Dems for Clegg's old seat but if Labour lose they can blame O'Mara under the circumstances. Resignation will only active in September so will be awhile before by-election. Were new allegations of sexual harassment (which he blames on delusional episode) and, following in from the astonishing attack from his departing chief of staff, O'Mara is resigning on health grounds as he battles depression and recently a delusional episode. Blames bullying of others for why he struggled as MP, accuses Corbyn of being rude and mistreating, of Labour offering him no help with health or training and even gaslighting him (Labour denies all this), of being smeared against and discriminated due to disabilities (cerebral palsy and autism). Labour deny the accusations, saying they remain concern about his welfare and will continue to provide support

When an MP being elected is considered a huge step forward, it is a problem when it goes horribly wrong, I fear O'Mara's brief time as MP will hold back chances of others on autism spectrum being selected to be MP's. O'Mara hadn't been socially media vetted so was huge embarrassment when, having been elected to equalities committee, abusive twitter posts were found from before he was MP and Labour suspended him. It went downhill from there and I do wonder if Labour wishes Clegg had held his seat. He was let back in then resigned due to how he felt he was treated by Labour, there were complaints about how long it took him to do maiden speech (more then 13 months) and workload, all his staff resigned, scandals popped now and again. Doubt this, bar any election defeat, will harm Labour and their reputation, doubt O'Mara's claims will stick

He will not be missed as an MP but I hope his health recovers and he has a good life. Parliament and all parties should look at how they would handle autism and the issue of past social media posts in future, see if any lessons can be learnt from this.


-Hammond held private talks with Sir Stramer after resignation but before Boris became PM

-Rees-Mogg has banned staffers from using "Very • due to • ongoing • hopefully • unacceptable • equal • too many "I"s • yourself • lot • got • speculate • invest (in schools etc) • no longer fit for purpose • I am pleased to learn • meet with • ascertain • disappointment • I note/understand your concerns", insisting on use of the title esquire about male MP's, imperial measurements and clamping down on grammar
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