UK Politics

Discuss events that have an impact on you and the world today. A home for honest, serious, and open discussion.

Re: UK Politics

Unread postby Dong Zhou » Sat Jul 13, 2019 5:21 pm

Watson vs Formby, May last interview, Sir Darroch
-Formby accuses Watson of trashing her reputation and attacking her while she is going through chemotherapy, she is getting support from likes of Burgeon (who says she has put herself out there to face tough questions despite illness), Lavery (brave and doing great job rooting out anti-Semitism) and Long-Bailey (feels she is facing onslaught while unwell when calmnesses needed)=

-May doesn't regret election but regrets not running a campaign that was her and not doing TV debates despite her dislike of what they had done in last election, "Too many people in politics think being prime minister is a position of power. Actually, it is a position of service to the country where you are always asking yourself “What more can I do for the public?” but later says both having served in cabinet understand the responsibility the job brings.

She leaves with much still to do, wonders if she should have talked to more people on Brexit earlier but then people criticize her (sometimes the same people for being too willing to compromise and not being willing enough to compromise, underestimated factions unwilling to compromise on Brexit. Hopes after Brexit is done, collective responsibility returns, hopes everyone will acknowledge "in everything I've done, I've always done what I believed to be in the national interest".

-D'Arcy Week Ahead

-Sir Darroch's camp briefing he had actually seen the clip of Boris treachery before he resigned, Boris was heckled at hustings over Darroch and admitted he should have been more emphatic in his support but Boris keeps trying to blame Hunt for dragging ambassador into leadership debate, Trump tries to be gracious to departing ambassador and says UK (like US) need to cut out the leaks. Scotland Yard has asked media (was a strong suspcion more was coming this Sunday) not to publish any more leaks and have asked the leaker to turn themselves in and explain what they did.

A civil service inquiry is generally seen as a joke, that Scotland Yard is involved may change a few dynamics and thinking.

-Boris not spoken in Commons since March

-Papers on Scotland Yard getting involved in leach process

- Scottish Parliament's social security committee want a halt to Universal Credit rollout

======

-Bim Afolami backs Boris on education

-Lamb and Whittingdale condemn Scotland Yard asking for no publishing of diplomatic leaks

======

-BBC Reality Checks Boris and Hunt interviews

-Maggie Pagaona who should fill Boris business related cabinet posts

-Forysth (sun) Boris first 72 hours will be key, cabinet speculation, May leaving, other stories

-Katy Balls on Boris cabinet talk

-Freedland UK hit by populism and it's role in anti-Semitism rise
User avatar
Dong Zhou
A-Dou
A-Dou
 
Posts: 16774
Joined: Sun Apr 10, 2005 12:32 pm
Location: "Now we must die. May Your Majesty maintain yourself"

Re: UK Politics

Unread postby Dong Zhou » Sun Jul 14, 2019 5:24 pm

press vs police, Labour and anti-Semitism, Brexit
-Papers on various aspects of the next batch of leaks (given what police have said, better one reads newpaper about latest leak then me commenting), either the leak itself, those accused of being involved in the leak and if Scotland/Yard/number 10 were right to object to leak

-Labour trying to get Panroma documentary off i-player while party are being sued for their response (the bits where they are attacked motives of staffers involved) to the documentary by two former staffers who were involved in said documentary. Thornberry says her Jewish staffer can't tell family and friends who they work for, this has been going on too long but praises Formby improving process, should not go for the messengers and McCluskey/Watson/Formby are having a long running soap opera

-Hunt, Corbyn and Boris very keen to let press know they back them over police on leaks story, Tugenhadt says it is reasonable to ask press not to publish but doesn't think publishing is a criminal matters, Sir Fallon says police have every right to stop breaches of Official Secrets Act, Hancock defends press freedom

-Hammond warns if no deal, EU will have control of several levers including Calais and we won't be able to control such events, David Davies says Whitehall never believed no-deal would happen and Treasury didn't want to talk about it, Sir Davey no deal means several deals

-Ross Thomson, Boris camapign manager in Scotland, “I don’t think you defend diplomats when it’s against the national interest”.


======

-Patrick Jenkins wants all of shadow cabinet to passionately back Remain and Reform

-Rawnsley Labour and Tory MP's both facing a test of their convictions

-Henry Hill wants May's Office for tackling Injustices scrapped as one of many quangos
User avatar
Dong Zhou
A-Dou
A-Dou
 
Posts: 16774
Joined: Sun Apr 10, 2005 12:32 pm
Location: "Now we must die. May Your Majesty maintain yourself"

Re: UK Politics

Unread postby Dong Zhou » Mon Jul 15, 2019 6:33 pm

Brexit, Labour Lords and GBM union move on anti-Semitism
-Papers on the cricket, guardian to a week long "the real Boris", Times saying one of Boris first acts will be to try to rebuild relations with Trump and get a limited trade deal (which has been denied)

-Stuart Collier, the journalist Boris tried to have beaten up a decade ago, is still awaiting an apology

-Hunt to met EU ministers to try to rescue Iran deal and is trying to soothe things with Iran, is going to try a £30 million homeless project based on pilots already done

-Rudd says she accepts no deal is needed as negotiation leverage but hopes EU and ERG both compromise, Scottish Brexit Secretary Mike Russell cannot a fully guarantee supply of medicine to Scotland in a no-deal Brexit with drug companies unwilling to stockpile as they had done for March, Ursula von der Leyen says open to extension if good reason for it.

Dr Fox says Boris plans (which Boris denies for a limited trade deal with US in time for Brexit is illegal and American elections will make it difficult for a quick deal, Boris belief we can get US to adopt UK food standards is unrealistic, a politician rather then career diplomat can replace sir Darroch .

-Tribune group of Labour MP's, centre-left figures like Cooper and Lucy Powell, are to push at PLP and NEC meetings for independent process on anti-Semitism. McDonnell feels Labour's general secretary and increased resources are improving things, Labour staff union GMB condemn Labour's attack on ex-staffers over Panaroma and use of NDA's. Labour Lords led by their leader Angela Smith have formerly offered to mediate on anti-Semitism and help set up an independent complaint system (given Lords report last week, I'm not sure they are the right people)

-Watson and Culture Chair Damien Collins worried about in-game spending

-May says Trump's comments about Democrat Congresswoman were completely unacceptable (CNN wondering why May was quicker then Republicans), Ruth Davidson agrees and asks if either male successor does (so far, none)

-Boris proposes tax breaks for companies to help workers mental health

-Wales set up their first citizen assembly, is on ways to improve democratic process

=====

-Gina Miller says she would use courts to block proroguing, Patel says unacceptable to use courts to tie hands of MP's and accuses Miller of trying to stop Brexit (Miller denies this is connected). Jenkin says UK would reject EU even harder if a second referendum, welcomes wide range of media apart from BBC which he sees as pro-EU, basic harmonisation with EU would make sense till deal later, public have lost faith in business with big business and politicians too close

-Dame Hodge says it is intolerable that Labour attacked those on Panaroma documentary and party is at a tipping point

-Rees-Mogg says cricket world cup shows we don't need Europe

-Shuker ChangeUK failed but the reason for their founding hasn't changed, Labour MP's need to oust Corbyn

-Zahwai refuses to say Trump's language about Democrat congressmen is racist (even Peirs Morgan thinks it is racist) but admits it is inappropriate and blames it on Trump frustration with attacks morals for trying to clamp down migration while saying as US domestic issue then UK figures should keep quiet, claims Boris backed Sir Darroch. Sir Boles "We are about to find out if @BorisJohnson puts his desire for a trade deal with the US above British values. If he does not condemn Trump’s racist comments, any protestations of his commitment to diversity and equal respect will be totally hollow"

-Faiza Shaheen is articulate and as a political candidate, is less experienced then others around PolticsLive table but maybe needs training about when not to attack and when to focus rather then spread the criticism

-Alan Turing to be on £50 note which MP's are delighted by

-Sir Cable becomes visiting professor of Brexit Studies at Birmingham University, thinks there will be more defections to Lib Dems before summer is out

=======

-Tim Worstall McDonnell's claim Labour election would see pound rise shows he misunderstands how market works

-Sonia Purnell, who worked with Boris in Brussels for Telegraph is not a fan

-John Harris Labour has some great idea's and thinkers but it's internal poltics are toxic and holding it back

-Goodman urges Boris to visit Scotland early

-Charles Grant what Boris might be able to get from EU and won't he won't get
User avatar
Dong Zhou
A-Dou
A-Dou
 
Posts: 16774
Joined: Sun Apr 10, 2005 12:32 pm
Location: "Now we must die. May Your Majesty maintain yourself"

Re: UK Politics

Unread postby Dong Zhou » Tue Jul 16, 2019 5:49 pm

Trump, Brexit
-On Trump (leadership hustings last evening) may explain the late condemnations), Hunt says he would be furious if anyone talked about his children like that but wouldn't be helpful to use term racism about a US President, Boris says Trump simply cannot use such language, such language went out decades and decades ago but refuses to say if racist.

Cowards.

-Hunt says failing to get immigration down would be betrayal, Trump very enthusiastic over trade deal but NHS will not for sale, commits to have female in top post, backs Rudd's Universal Credit plans, Corbyn may well be anti-Semitic

-Boris refuses to say if he has costed no-deal Brexit and says Treasury would come up with spine chilling figures, refuses to say he would lower migration, Trump would negotiate hard and is ruthless but wants trade deal and won't do anything to lower UK standards, hesitant about if he will have a woman in one of the top posts, does not back Rudd's Universal Credit plans as already given many spending commitments, Corbyn is anti-Semitic due to way he has condoned it

-Hammond warns Facebook's plans for new currency are potentially a real danger to finical security

-Papers on Trump's tweet and responses

-Commons environmental audit committee concerned at household chemicals impact on babies in the womb

-Dr Woolostan is furious at another delay to website blocker with Margot James apologizing profusely

-Simon Hoare, Tory chair of N.Ireland committee, says Boris and Hunt's dismissal of backstop is deeply worrying and very dangerous while sterling is clearly in a panic.

-Wages (without bonuses) grow 3.6% in last three months (1.7% over inflation), fasted in a decade, with unemployment still very low

-Greg Clark gives model car to counter-part Long Bailey, he knows he is gone.

-Rumours Boris will have parliament end for two weeks in October and return for Queen's Speech in November, ensuring parliament isn't sitting on October 31st...

-Gove says Boris has been passionate about environment for decades and when they first met Boris called himself a Green Tory, it is late but still time to save planet, wants environment bill in next queen speech

-Brokenshire apologises for sacking Sir Roger Scruton and wants a meeting to discuss future

-Corbyn welcomes meeting with Lords but warns ECHR will trump any suggestions if two conflict, Watson has proposed independent complaints process to deal with allegations of racism, sexism, misogyny, homophobia or transphobia with auto expulsion for any where the evidence is irrefutable

-Lords adjourned as Lord Judd fell ill, hope is alright.

=====

-Jonathan Edwards no deal impact on Welsh farming, Sir Letwin says proroguing would end up in court and isn't there are the numbers to stop no deal in parliament, Sir Grieve says any attempt to force through no deal will bring down government with disgruntled former cabinet ministers likely to swell numbers and contest has become host to growing Brexit extremism, Sarah Champion indicates for sake of democracy she might vote for no deal and isn't sure how she would vote in confidence motion

-Debbie Abrahams new social contract

-Jared O'Mara to stand again for parliament, says Commons voting system needs updating to take into account disabilities

-Lord Trimble changing voting stance on gay marriage after his daughter had same-gender marriage

-Harper refuses to call Trump's comment racist (does call it unacceptable and wrong), Steve Baker posts Reagan's final speech as President, a passionate pro-immigration speech, to show the type of Republican and American he prefers

-Lord Harris says Corbyn is not cut out to lead and has huge responsibility for anti-Semitism crises, brilliant campaigner but not a leader or up to the day to day details and organization

-Sir Grieve says pact with Brexit party would kill the soul of the Tory party, it would not be the party of Churchill, Macmillan, Major and Thatcher

-Sir Rodgers wanted Brexit plans works done before referendum but neither government or Leavers wanted that done, Brexit been coming a long time., was surprised neither he or Sir Heywood had read May's red lines speech in advance, May's three N.Ireland commitments were incompatible, Olly Robins answering to May and Davis was a mess

=====

-Elena Bunbury and Ali Fazel switch to Hunt

-Shanker Singham wants role of US ambassador to evolve

-Jean Quatremer remembers Boris time in Brussels

-David Henig Boris and Hunt repeating May mistakes
User avatar
Dong Zhou
A-Dou
A-Dou
 
Posts: 16774
Joined: Sun Apr 10, 2005 12:32 pm
Location: "Now we must die. May Your Majesty maintain yourself"

Re: UK Politics

Unread postby Dong Zhou » Wed Jul 17, 2019 6:57 pm

Labour peers turn on Corbyn, May speech, Brxit
-Concerns in Labour that May's domestic abuse reforms will be halted by her successors but Atkins says both leadership teams told her they will continue the bill

-Papers have rumours Boris plans election, TV license fee and chances of no deal

-Rudd says he suspects leaders stance on backstop will soften when they face negotiating reality, reports Barclay told Barnier five times the May deal is dead and that he was aggressive (Barclay denies it), Hammond after Rees-Mogg says Hammond's view of no deal is silliness "Happy to debate scale of negative impact of No Deal on the economy - but terrifying that someone this close to a potential future government can think we’d actually be better off by adding barriers to access to our largest market."

-A third of Labour peers put out advert accusing Labour of failing on anti-Semitism with lines like "The Labour Party welcomes everyone irrespective of race, creed, age, gender identity, or sexual orientation. Except, it seems, Jews. This is your legacy Mr Corbyn,", Labour's attack on the peers as anti-Corbyn and he will abolish them anyway doesn't seem to be going down that well , McDonnell says advert in guardian is expensive and may have been better in an anti-Semitism charity and wished they had phoned Corbyn instead

-Gove refusing to publicly back either leader

-McDonnell pledges to end in-work poverty by end of first term and argues against term social mobility “Behind the concept of social mobility is the belief that poverty is OK as long as some people are given the opportunity to climb out of it, leaving the others behind."

-Ursula von der Leyen becomes head of European Commission by 9 votes above the margin required (374), 383 votes to 327

-Inflation holds at 2.0%

-Barclay says they are looking at how they can help car industry and farmers if no deal, would be some side deals if no deal include on access to police database, no deal more likely then people think, would seek a continuity approach to fishing access if no deal

- Zaghari-Ratcliffe sent to psychiatric ward

-Been sad that PMQ's now descends into "your more racist" "no your party is more racist"

-May says democratic politics, free speech and the rule of law have been key to progress over last century so state of politics today is a serious concern, compromise has been unfashionable with debate being overtaken by rancour and tribal differences with art of disagreeing honesty being lost amidst absolutism, poltics and diplomacy must not be about a zero sum game. NHS was a coalition effort between Labour and Tories, UN founded by Stalin agreeing to compromise. People feel anxious over speed of technology change, admits not all her language on Brexit has been perfect and EU queue jumpers is one example she regrets, stupidest thing she ever did was the "nuaghiest question" thing, people should not ascribe bad motives on those who disagree, US should accept the need for multilateral organizations

Press feeling May showing a lack of self awareness with this one

-Lords strength anti-proroguing measures in N.Ireland bill 272 vs 169 a win of 103, making it illegal to prorogue in autumn unless Stormont returns. Government may seek to overturn in Commons having lsot by one last time and that was when whip Jo Churchill forgot to vote herself having proxied for another

====

-Eleanor Smith reforms to NHS staffing levels

-Halfon's manifesto

-Helen Whatley wants flexible working to be default position

-Leadsom says she would not support any move to prorogue

-Beeb denies constant rumours he is going to join Lib Dems and may vote down government on no deal due to devastation to his farmers

-Blair says there are now two more conditions he would attach to Chicago speech, if Islamists would be a destabliing problem in the area and public support required

=====

-Behr pro-Europe politicians have been weak

-Arwa Mahdawi concerned at Boris mental health plans

-Beth Rigby reshuffle talk
User avatar
Dong Zhou
A-Dou
A-Dou
 
Posts: 16774
Joined: Sun Apr 10, 2005 12:32 pm
Location: "Now we must die. May Your Majesty maintain yourself"

Re: UK Politics

Unread postby Dong Zhou » Thu Jul 18, 2019 6:07 pm

BBC gets some Brexit revelations, shadow peer sacked, OBR concerns, government lose surprisingly badly on prorouging
-Lord Prescott accuses Watson of disloyalty in front of peers, Watson responds he has only been able to get two meetings with Corbyn since 2016

-Boris holds kipper (provided by Express) at hustings as part of argument against EU rules (only turns out he got the rules wrong as they are... British not EU rules and Isle of Man is not part of EU), both leaders rule out all female shortlists

-Papers on hustings and May's speech

-Barnier says UK will have to face consequences of no deal, May's deal only deal available, May never told him she was willing to go for no deal (Brexiteers will seize on this) as May's team were well informed and knew it would be a pointless move. Number 10 responds "Can I begin by saying how nice it was to hear from Michel Barnier again this morning, and how generous it was of the BBC to give him a platform to share his views with us all. On that specific point, the prime minister was clear, both in public and in private that the UK was prepared to leave without a deal."

-Lidington says EU offered a five year Brexit delays, EU Commission's First Vice-President Frans Timmerman compares UK initial negotiating attempts under David Davis to Dad's Army (Lord Callahan goes "stupid boy") and always got the impression Boris was playing games, Hammond admits they shouldn't have trigged article 50 before deciding what Brexit they wanted. OBR says a benign no deal would likely lead to recession and a £30 billion black hole in finances but is far from their worst case scenario while they acknowledge Tory leadership is going beyond their version, Hunt says no deal would lead to short term economic shock and it would harden attitudes towards Europe as they would be blamed for it, while Hammond says OBR isn't doing worst-case scenario like a Boris version.

-Shadow Brexit Minister Baroness Hayter sacked, compared Corbyn's reaction to "Those of you who haven't [read the book] will have seen the film Bunker, about the last days of Hitler, where you stop receiving any information into the inner group which suggests that things are not going the way you want." Labour say deeply offensive and suddenly have a care for their Jewish staff

I feel Baroness Hayter was, at best, unwise with that comparison and was asking to be sacked.

-Only 30 MP's attended bullying in Commons debate, agreed parliamentary complaints scheme can now deal with historical allegations of bullying and harassment.

-Bercow pledges Commons will keep raising the Ratcliffe case

-Government rules out judicial inquiry into torture has been several reviews and various oversights have powers to deal with the matter

-OBR warns we may already be entering recession, balanced budget failure seems to have set in and warns next PM there is no such thing as a free lunch

-Parliament votes to block pro-rogue 315 to 274, majority of 42 way bigger then expected. Margot James resigned to do so and may be rather annoyed Hammond, Clark, Stewart, Gauke all abstained without resigning, junior ministers Stephen Hammond, Ellwood, Merriman and Anne Milton also went missing. Hunt forgot to vote but has apologized, the others May has said she won't sack but she doesn't expect her successor will appoint them.

DUP a tad annoyed N.Ireland bill is turning into Brexit bill (but they voted for Brexit and failed to install Stormont so creating need for such a bill), Hammond "The Conservative Party has always, at its core, had a fundamental belief in the importance of strong institutions – and in a representative democracy there can be no more vital institution than it’s Parliament. It should not be controversial to believe that Parliament be allowed to sit, and have a say, during a key period in our country’s history." Marjot James says more people are prepared to rebel under Boris then they would under Hunt

This will see some frantic adjustments in Boris camp calculations

====

-Cherry on Scotland's drug problem

-Davies says May repeatedly lost her nerve in Brexit talks and decisions while EU never understood British Euroscepticism, Rishi Sunak says OBR warning should be taken with pinch of salt

-Tories suspend councillor David Burgess-Joyce for saying Lammy has done more damage to community cohesion then the KKK, Lammy has asked he will be expelled and isn't accepting the councillor apology (rightly so). Baroness Warsi says May "systematically failed to challenge xenophobic and racist language" about British Muslims

-Keith Simpson voted against government for first time in 22 years

====

-Lewis Goodall says May is responsible for rise of populism with her corrosive language

-Nick Robinson 10 takeaways from Brexit documentary

-Luke Tryl education reform one of Cameron's great legacies but more reform needed

-James Lasndale six foreign office challenges for May's successor
User avatar
Dong Zhou
A-Dou
A-Dou
 
Posts: 16774
Joined: Sun Apr 10, 2005 12:32 pm
Location: "Now we must die. May Your Majesty maintain yourself"

Re: UK Politics

Unread postby Dong Zhou » Fri Jul 19, 2019 5:57 pm

Javid concerned by Trump's language, select committee reports
-Papers on Boris first defeat and rumours Hammond was encouraging revolt yesterday

-Barclay, in good humour to his credit, had a difficult time with Brexitcast quiz

-Hammond "It should not be controversial to believe that Parliament be allowed to sit, and have a say, during a key period in our country's history.", Clark "I couldn't support the idea that we would allow the doors of Parliament to be locked against MPs at this crucially important time - that would be a constitutional outrage., Margot James says proroguing was too extreme

-Javid says he knows what it is like to be told to go back where he came from, public figures need to watch their language, extremists use immigration as a proxy for race and so myths around immigration need to be tackled

-Education Select Committee warns schools desperately need cash, Sir Halfon says there needs to be a review into what the costs are for a modern education system

- House of Commons Science and Technology committee calls for suspension of automatic facial recognition use

-Abbott warns there will be a third leadership challenge on Corbyn this summer

-Deficit up £3.8 billion which is more then expected

=====

-Lord Hague says sir Darroch case has set precedent that one can politically assassinate a UK diplomat and other leaders may try to blank ambassadors they don't like, there is a limit to how long can be foreign secretary due to toll on body

-Sir Cable changes mind on assisted dying

-Jo Swinson makes her pitch for liberalism

-Bryant calls for major improvements in Welsh cancer services

====

-Gary Younge May deserves no sympathy but was best Tories had

-Simon Jenkins Westminster to blame for

-Kuessenberg on Boris opponents

-Nicolas Watt a plot to send Queen to EU to block no deal

-Alan Lockley accuses Labour soft left of dithering and cowardice
User avatar
Dong Zhou
A-Dou
A-Dou
 
Posts: 16774
Joined: Sun Apr 10, 2005 12:32 pm
Location: "Now we must die. May Your Majesty maintain yourself"

Re: UK Politics

Unread postby Dong Zhou » Sat Jul 20, 2019 5:14 pm

Iran, Brexit, Trump
-Increasing sense a general election will happen either within few months or earlyish next year

-Papers very worried at Iran seizing two UK tankers and the right are furious with Hammond for hinting he might vote down a Tory government to prevent no deal, cabinet reshuffle talk aplenty

-Hunt warns there will be serious consequences if tanker situation is not resolved, Corbyn calls it unacceptable and a dangerous escalation

-Boris opponents being nicknamed versions of Gauke-squad

-D'Arcy last week of term ahead

-Merkel on May "She has not had an easy time dealing with this difficult question. I always found her to be a reliable and collegial partner, and I thank her for that.", she is willing for extension if UK wants one

-Thornberry was in hospital after collision on her bike, seems to be ok thankfully.

-Trump says Boris would do a good job as PM and they would have a very good relationship, May had done a very bad job with Brexit and Boris will straighten out the disaster

-Brokenshire pledges to end the poor door segregation

-Darren Grimes wins appeal against fine, judge making clear Grimes had been honest and tried to do his duty. Em-brassing for Electoral Commission, will fuel Brexiteers belief it is against them and some Remainers will owe Grimes an apology

-Baroness Hayter cheered by peers after her sacking, Labour peers looking at if to hold confidence vote in Corbyn

-Javid concerns at polarization in US and Trump's comments were completely unacceptable

====

-Rees-Mogg says figures who voted for block on prorogue aren't doing it for reasons they say they are, they are trying to stop Brexit

-Jess Philips warns too many political figures using extremes of language

=====

-Adam Boulton tries to find 10 positives about May

-Nick Hargreave with advice for team Boris how to quickly master the medieval court that is number 10

-Forsyth (sun) Boris camps varoius Brexit plans, Heathrow row, election coming and other stories

-Professor Jerry Brotton tackles Boris views on historical Islam
User avatar
Dong Zhou
A-Dou
A-Dou
 
Posts: 16774
Joined: Sun Apr 10, 2005 12:32 pm
Location: "Now we must die. May Your Majesty maintain yourself"

Re: UK Politics

Unread postby Dong Zhou » Sun Jul 21, 2019 4:06 pm

Glordia De Piero is retiring, Hammond, Jewish groups messages to Labour
-Papers on Iran tensions with government being accused of taking eye off the ball and various stories about Boris (his expenses, some Tories outright refusing to follow him, claims EU reaching out to him)

-I suspect a man as wealthy as Boris trying to get civil service to pay for furniture due to his martial arrangements meaning he has none is not going to go down well

-McDonnell wants an end to outsourcing from councils and will enforce it

-Shadow Just Minister Gloria De Piero resigns and plans to retire due to not being able to provide the commitment she feels over next eight years but has also raised concerns (she says papers have mixed the two issues up) over abuse received, seems to be from Remainers and from Labour members calling her right-wing. McDonnell praises her departing speech, says it is disappointing, needs to be broach church and asks for evidence to be handed over so Labour can investigate.

Remainers need to be held to account and every time they attack Brexiteers on this sort of thing, they need to explain their role in this. Labour has been.... struggling to stop the abuse towards female MP's with Corbyn's #kindergentlerpolitics long not applying to them it would seem. Blow to party, always an articulate figure who tried to explore the disenchantment of the working class to Labour and politics, this raises questions about the "tolerant" left and about if MP's workloads could be better handled.

-Jewish Leadership Council demands Labour do more on anti-Semitism, Board of Deputies of British Jews has written to shadow cabinet suggesting action they could take and warning further failure would not be forgiven

-Conveny says it would be fair to all those involved in last three years if they utterly changed the deal

-Boris avoids Andrew Marr.

-Hammond warns isn't clear there are more sanctions that can be imposed on Iran, will resign after PME's if Boris becomes PM (hardly a surprise), gets on well with Boris and generally agrees with him on policy as a liberal Tory, recognises need to leave EU and is not a remainer but Brexit was promised with a deal and in a parliamentary democracy, no deal requires parliament approval. His messages before prorogue vote was simply telling people what he was going to do, wants to be loyal to next Tory government and will support a deal

=====

-IDS says EU are hard nose negotiators and will say they won't engage to new deal but they will engage to avoid no deal and May's failing wasn't being equally hard nose, says the honourable thing to do if disagree with government position is to resign, proroguing is normal and has become a red herring, some questions about government handling of Iran.

-Davies wants a new Official Secrets Act that helps protect the press

=====

-Ahmed Aboudouh on Iran

-Richard Short tries to defend Boris as right on the kippers

-Rawnsley Boris is in for a tough time
User avatar
Dong Zhou
A-Dou
A-Dou
 
Posts: 16774
Joined: Sun Apr 10, 2005 12:32 pm
Location: "Now we must die. May Your Majesty maintain yourself"

Re: UK Politics

Unread postby Dong Zhou » Mon Jul 22, 2019 6:16 pm

New Lib Dem leader, Sir Alan Duncan resigns early, anti-Semitism, Iran, Brexit
-Boris says UK needs to rediscover sense of can-do spirit and sense of mission and if we landed on the moon then we can sort out a way for frictionless trade, Conveney says no deal means customs checks in Ireland and demanding withdrawal of backstop is like saying "Give me what I want or I'm going to burn the house down for everybody.'" with Forster saying he is just trying to look though for new PM, Hammond warns new deal will take longer then October

-Papers on cabinet ministers going to backbenches to oppose Boris

-Hunt has spoken to French foreign minister Jean-Yves Le Drian and the German foreign minister Heiko Maas about Iran and will be a Europe led mission to the Gulf, Ellwood says Royal Navy is too small to manage our interests across globe but wasn't an issue with shipping near Iran

-Labour launches anti-Semitism guide and materials for members with more to come, Corbyn feels only a small number in Labour hold anti-Semitic views but warns a larger number do not recognise stereotypes and conspiracy theories but still attacks media and others for "exaggerating" the issue. Corbyn has suggested two options to shadow cabinet about speeding up the process

I feel if this had been done early on, it would have gone down really well. Now probably too late to reassure Jewish community, still the education work is welcome if it opens the eyes of some so well done.

-Government wants to ensure bailiff's wear body-camera's

-Sir Alan Duncan resigns as foreign office minister, getting in early before other more senior figures resign and was clearly never going to be kept on by Boris. All of Boris subordinates at foreign office don't think much of him but Alan Duncan has been particularly open (as he is want to do) about his views on Boris. His letter covered his successes and frustrations in foreign office and was loyal to May whose time he felt was cut short, bemoans that we could have become dominant voice in Europe but for Brexit. Some of Boris supporters are rolling their eyes and seeing this as attention seeking, while a respected foreign minister sir Duncan isn't known for modesty

Later Sir Duncan says Bercow (according to sir Duncan) has blocked attempt to have a vote on if Boris commands support (Sir Duncan will not be popular for trying this...), refuses to rule out voting no confidence, says he did it now so he could say nice things bout May and Foreign office before it gets lost in rush of resignations, needs to be clear if Boris has support before anything major happens and leads to constitutional crises. Got on well with Boris at foreign office and has no personal grudge but finds him a bit ramshackle and haphazard, as a Tory and patriot he wants Boris to succeed but thinks it will be very difficult.

-Elphicke facing three serious charges (lawyers says he is confidence his name will be cleared) and so Tories have suspended him, this will brig back the unease about his whip being returned for May confidence vote

-Jo Swinson new Lib Dem leader,47,997vs 28,021 or 63% vs 37% on a 72% turnout , their first female leader (awkwardly for Labour but hardly means Lib Dem lack of diversity problem is solved). She says liberalism is thriving, will do all she can to stop Brexit, promises Ed Davey will be central to her team, country deserves better then Boris, is ambitious to win general election and be PM.

Had been expected to be a close fight so the scale is surprising. Jo Swinson has long been seen as a future leader, good in the media, popular with the grass-roots, a junior minister of the coalition but not so tied it in it as other Lib Dems figures had been (including Ed Davey) which gave her wiggle room to push away from it to a degree "owning" the failures of those years and for being too nice. She will keep them as part of liberalism and Remain but seems to dislike idea of a future coalition with other parties which could be interesting if is a hung parliament, king makers is likely Lib Dem's best hope and if they let such opportunities pass, will that prove damaging? She will be targeted by SNP, her seat was already a vulnerable target and they would love the scalp, they will try to pin her on her time in the coalition.

=====

-Blair says no deal could range from very difficult to catastrophic but difficult to quite predict as no developed nation has tried this before. Gordon Brown warns no deal throws economy over cliff and polling shows public don't back it, no deal betrays Tory manifesto, would be no greater self-harm inflicted by British in our peace-time history, Boris would become the first PM of England rather then united kingdom. Sir Major warns Boris won;t be a real PM if he just represents a Brexit ultra faction and has to act for the entire nation, warns words and actions have consequences

-Hunt supporter Greg Hands think pre-emptive resignations to avoid sacking by a democratically elected leader is absurd

====

-Kuessenberg enormous change coming as Boris faces huge dilemma's

-Jonathan Marcus Iran crises is a big diplomatic test for new PM

-Sir Curtice on polling

-D'Ancona society and media, including himself, are to blame for Boris being PM

-Tom McTague (long read) profiles Boris
User avatar
Dong Zhou
A-Dou
A-Dou
 
Posts: 16774
Joined: Sun Apr 10, 2005 12:32 pm
Location: "Now we must die. May Your Majesty maintain yourself"

PreviousNext

Return to Current Affairs

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 1 guest

Copyright © 2002–2008 Kongming’s Archives. All Rights Reserved