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Re: UK Politics

Unread postby Dong Zhou » Mon Jan 16, 2017 5:48 pm

Thanks, fixed it
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Re: UK Politics

Unread postby Sun Fin » Mon Jan 16, 2017 5:52 pm

Dong Zhou wrote:Thanks, fixed it


Thanks :D. Proof that I do read many of the articles you post!
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Re: UK Politics

Unread postby Dong Zhou » Mon Jan 16, 2017 10:51 pm

Sun Fin wrote:
Dong Zhou wrote:Thanks, fixed it


Thanks :D. Proof that I do read many of the articles you post!


and wonder at my bad taste? :wink:


-Gove interviews Trump who says we are doing great after Brexit which will lead to others coming out of EU, promises quick trade deal, pound dropping is great, calls EU a vehicle for Germany, says Merkel has made a major errors with immigration policy but has great respect for her. Less reported but will be worrying for UK is Nato is obsolete (it feels more like he means it needs updating) but also important to him, requires people paying fair share

-Hammond warns if we lose major single market access, UK would have to change it's entire economic model due to damage lose of single market would cause, seen as a warning to EU they could have a Singapore on it's shores. Not gone down well in Germany apparently

-Brokenshire says EU referendum means free movement of people can not continue , not contemplating direct rule of N.Ireland, will act for N.Ireland in Brexit talks if need be (not sure that will be popular). DUP nominate Foster for First Minister but Sinn Fein refuse to nominate deputy so going to elections bar a miracle

-McDonnell says last week was a good week for Labour

-Plaid's treasury spokesman Jonathan Edwards says leaving single market would be "the greatest job-killing act in Welsh economic history"

-David Davis says UK must persuade EU they need UK to be a strong ally

-Downing Street downplaying rumours of leaving single market and custom union

-pound has hit its lowest level for more than three months. Then kept falling for awhile before stabilizing. FTSE100 rise but fell off near end of day to end it's winning streak

-Women and Equalities Committee are launching a new inquiry into fathers in the workplace.

-Jeremy Hunt to get £15 million from selling education website. Quite why the Mirror thinks this has anything to do with NHS I don't know

-May has 12 point lead on health over Corbyn, Labour's strong point. How NHS crises plays on that will be interesting

-IMF upgrades UK forecast by 0.4% to 1.5%

-Greens not happy about Corbyn shifting on nuclear power

-Downing Street says it will not break EU rules by starting trade talks, wants strong EU

-The three Brexiteers behind May on who people trust to deliver Brexit in a good way, no major politician has majority trust

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-Mail thinks Bryant has eyes on Bercow's job

-Creagh says trade deal with US would be Trump trojan horse

-CBI unhappy at idea of WTO Brexit

-Gove sees Trump was neutral about EU survival, defends our ambassador to USA. Getting flak for being too soft

-World Economic Forum puts us as 21st out of 30 for economic exclusivity

-McCluskey says Corbyn still on learning curve and needs to rise to challenge then sets out his Unite view on Brexit

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-Kuessenberg warns government may be cursing Trump's Brexit comments

-Dominic Lawson Hammond's comments

-Jan Filochowski on NHS crises

-Zoe Williams not happy with recent resignations

-Lord Stewart Wood on 15 lessons from Trump interview

-Tom Black says Hunt's critics fail to see they share the same flaws as he did
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Re: UK Politics

Unread postby Dong Zhou » Tue Jan 17, 2017 10:19 pm

May's Speech: Hard (ish?) Brexit . Going to bold the policies as will be a lengthy section. Was a well delivered speech by May and seemed well written so well done everyone involved.

A large part of May's speech was aimed more at the EU (lots of diplomats there apparently) then the domestic audience. The opening, the ending, a lot of the 12 points, aimed towards our neighbours. May was friendly for the most part, trying to paint Brexit as not a dismissal of the EU but partly our own little ways (while trying desperately to ensure reasons why we are different does not insult EU), thanking them for trying to help Cameron, wanting to be great friends with them, wanting the EU to succeed. That a diverse UK is not wanting to shut the door on EU, it wants to be best friends and neighbours, that UK wants to share so much (like intelligence) with EU. She warned EU's reaction to diversity is wrong, it needs to be flexible rather then more uniform, it needs to reform. That while most of EU wants friendly relations, one or two want punitive and set out why she thinks EU would be harmed by this (including ability to adapt to a Singapore like model if need be by UK). EU might be a bit ruffled by some of it but hopefully will take the friendly tone and approach.

To the domestic audience, she is offering more details then before which may end some of the complaints for now (it was a speech of substance) but laid a trap for Labour/Lib Dems/journalists by warning asking for more is opposition for opposition sakes and risks undermining national interest. The public may be puzzled to discover they love the EU and voted for a Hannan (free trade, yay migrants) Brexit rather then a Farage like one or the one I suspect most voted for. She set out Brexit as a chance to make a new UK, a stronger union, a fairer society, she has plans for schools, infrastructure, industrial strategy as part of major reforms. She wants a global looking free trading power that does value migrants (May's most pro immigration speech ever?), she set out what she was looking for. There was a, though very lightly couched (wish she had been firmer), rebuke to all sides as she reminded our democracy works by losers respecting result, winners being magnanimous, the need to respect the institutions (maybe she should stand up for judges), pointing Parliament was helping bring Brexit through, that there will have to be compromises.

The 12 policies:

1) Keeping people in loop. Parliament will get final vote (between WTO and the deal she made), that she will keep businesses, the public, public videos as informed as possible so they can try to plan and adjust, will adopt most EU law.

2) Our own laws. Out of European Court of Justice since we can no longer have a vote on said laws.

3) Keeping union together New devolved powers will come their way but not on trade and trading standards, wants common travel area with Republic of Ireland (not sure how she squares that with immigration controls), she will keep talking to them

4) Immigration. Made quite a pro migration speech and points to our history but says the numbers because of free movement meant it lost public support and only a sense of control will rebuild that.

5) Appeals for quick deal on EU/UK nationals, says most of EU wants out but a few are blocking. I don't know why May gets the sole blame for this

6) Workers rights will be protected and strengthened

7) Will leave single market, seeking tariff free free trade deal instead What was interesting was May going "yep, heard you EU, free movement is a must for single market and I will not ask you to betray the principle", also leaves us too tied to EU laws, highlighted cars and finical services as areas that would benefit everyone if tariff free.

8) Wont pay into EU budget other then obligations and projects we choose to join. Was a belief May might ask for stuff in exchange for big budget payments, seems like that won't be the case but if, say, there is a science project UK wants to take part in, UK would pay a fee for it.

9) Trade deals means not full customs union but will seek some sort of associate member or deal

10) Will seek to cooperate on things like law and order, intelligence

11) Not looking for transitional deal as such but phasing in implimentation with timing depending on sectors

12) Warns No deal better then bad deal

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-Not sure Labour saying out of single market breaches manifesto is the best line of attack. I wonder if the Singapore line will feel a bit too far out for most people

-Taoiseach Kenny and Prime Minister May call for N.Ireland parties to be respectful during election, Sinn Fein try to no confidence the DUP Speaker Robin Newton but DUP use veto

-Mark Carney expects spending slowdown in consumer spending and concerned at economy relying on consumer debt spending

-Julian Lewis says Cameron lacks the strategic ability to head Nato, warns if US turns away from Nato then Europe will be vulnerable but thinks Trump is trying to strong arm the freeloaders

-£ rockets after May's speech, inflation up to 1.6%, FTSE100 down due to pound's rise

-Ireland government says it will tempt to lure business out of UK

-Germany’s foreign minister, Frank-Walter Steinmeier, welcomed the new details, Tomas Prouza, the Czech Europe minister, calls it ambitious but wonders what UK will give EU, President Tusk says UK getting more realistic, Sandro Gozi, Italy’s undersecretary for European affairs, welcomes clarity ut says UK got so many exemptions they were already half in and half out, Guy Verhofstadt welcomes clarity but like others questions the wisdom of the Singapore threat

-David Davis to meet mayors in York to discuss Brexit

-Leave groups delighted, those pro Remain not so happy, Greens questioning mandate for hard Brexit for example, Nutall gives it 7/10.

-Sturgeon hints at second referendum becoming more likely but very carefully phrases it

-Sir Stramer says May's proposal is not Hard Brexit, Labour MEP's and Corbyn rather disagree. Feels like Sir Stramer has blundered there

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-I don't think Lord Mandelson is impressed by May's handling of Brexit. In interviews accuses her of acting as if there will be no hard choices

-Debbie Abrahams on Labour's Brexit stance

-British Chambers of Commerce says May's Brexit still lacks details, Institute of Directors and CBI rather happier

-Mann thinks May's speech and need to be able to threaten an election if deal is shot down has reduced chances of early election

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-Kuessenberg looked forward to the speech

-Polly Toynbee with NHS statistics

-Dejevsky Nato wrong job for Cameron

-Forsyth on May's hand getting stronger

-Sebastian Whale fears May made mistake in speech

-Ben Chu argues single market is misunderstood
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Re: UK Politics

Unread postby Dong Zhou » Wed Jan 18, 2017 10:44 pm

PMQ's: Corbyn went on parliamentary sovereignty aspect of Brexit, irony lady wasn't too bad a joke and MP's will love the subject but for public, might be seen as too obscure. Went for Singapore as bargain basement Brexit as demanding the country's standing, again wonder how it goes for the public, talks of vague guarantees that contradict her past comments, quoting past comments from her ministers felt like fighting past battles. Some mistakes on detail and lacking Angus Robertson's punch through. Made a passionate pro immigration speech at end which won't go down well with wider public. May dodged the questions but set herself up as a vision Brexit which will unite the country and she was happy to use the chance to sell her efforts to the wider public, has a good line where Corbyn messed up yesterday, managed to fit in a general attack on Corbyn policies and grew in confidence. It was a decent but not informative exchange, both on good form with May the declared winner. Angus Robertson went on May ignoring Scotland's will

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-Boris says countries lining up to make trade deals with us, says UK still committed to EU values. Then compares President Francois Hollande stance on Brexit to WW2 punishment beatings which is being seen as a Nazi comparison. Downing Street frantically saying an exaggerated movie comparison, not Nazi. Well done Boris, France will love that comparison and will be so much more willing to help us. Meanwhile a prepared statement on another matter sees Javid condemning those who used Nazi insults at exactly the wrong time

-N.Ireland elections on March 2nd, day before my birthday

-Sinn Féin, Alliance and SDLP warns leaving custom union means hard border with Irish border, DUP dismiss it

-Carwynn Jones welcomes May's tone on Brexit, says Assembly will have vote

-David Davis makes clear Parliament can not veto Brexit, hints article 50 will be invoked before 25th March, gets on with EU counterparts, says some of the transition may be going on even during 2020 election, got 1k from betting on EU referendum. Reminds civil service they got through WW2, they can handle Brexit.

- Tomas Prouza, the Czech Europe minister, says best EU has as free a trade with UK as possible, he and Latvian ambassador Baiba Braze deny there is will for punishing UK but Joseph Muscat, Malta's PM, says we must get a worse deal then when EU member, Junker warns talks will be very very very difficult, Tusk warns no pick and choose for UK but appreciates May's supportive attitude towards intergration

-Unemployment falls to lowest level for more than 10 years at 4.8%

-Supreme Court judgement next Tuesday

-Farron rails against May's speech

-Equality and Human Rights Commission warns there may well be a spike in hate crimes when Article 50 is triggered

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-Ken Clarke mocks idea that we can have trade deals but only we decide rules

-Tristram Hunt uses farwell speech to discuss how Brexit shows the divide between Labour and it's voters

-Ladbrooks has Rees-Mogg has favourite to be next Speaker with Bryant and Lindsey Hoyle strongly placed

-Lord Stuart Wood on rise of populism

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-Deborah Mattinson on attitudes since Brexit

-Tom Mosley what we learned from May's speech

-Brian Taylor on Brexit speech

-John Crace has fun with May speech

-Rachael Shabi says left changing position on immigration isn't going to work

-Fraser Nelson on May's speech

-Rentoul on May playing a weak hand
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Re: UK Politics

Unread postby Dong Zhou » Thu Jan 19, 2017 10:38 pm

-European Commissioner for Economic and Financial Affairs Pierre Moscovici and says UK will have to less then rest of EU, Lagarde expects uncertainty impact in 2018 and expects us to get less then EU members, France Foreign Minister Jean-Marc Ayrault says they do not plan to punish UK, Dutch prime minister Mark Rutte fears we are going to be hit hard by pulling out of single market.

-HSBC sending it's bankers (responsible for a 5th of it's revenues) to Paris due to Brexitt, UBS says some of it's staff will have to be moved abroad, Goldsman Sachs ends

-Youguv says May has 47% backing on her Brexit plan and Tories a general 17 point lead, Ipsi Mori says 12 point lead

-May says global elites must address people's concerns like failings on tax, confident about global Brexit and her speech defending globalization seems to have gone down well in Davos

-Hammond pleased fog of Brexit starting to clear, says he is not threatening EU but that UK would react to keep itself competitive as it has done before is "blindly obvious"

-After rumours some of shadow cabinet (Clive Lewis has said he is not inclined to back it at the moment) will abstain from article 50 vote, Corbyn hints he will order them to vote for it. Then Labour back away from the idea.

-Trade department says it is having informal talks with 12 countries

-BBC Trust reprimands Kuenssberg for inaccurate reporting of Corbyn's shoot to kill stance by placing his quote in wrong context though she was not being biased, BBC News furious with the ruling. Why BBC Trust took this long to decide one way or another (with 4 separate hearings backing the journalist), I don't know but that ruling would have been helpful to Corbyn two years ago.

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-Carswell backs Nuttall for Stoke

-Former World Trade Organization director general Pascal Lamy on Boris "It's a clear embarrassment for all these high-flying diplomats in the Foreign Office and they deserve all our compassion,"

-Arron Banks launches news website Westmonster

-Sadiq Khan warns UK might not be only ones to leave EU unless there is change

-Former ambassador to EU Lord Kerr warns Brexit talks could turn very nasty, one in three chance of no deal

-SNP MP Paul Monaghan quotes a May speech on Brexit that is clearly made up by fake news.

-Dan Jarvis warns immigration has become toxic for Labour

-George Soros predicts May's small majority and divided cabinet means she won't last, says UK is in denial about the pain they are about to go through

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-James Lansdale on Boris comments

-Kevin Connolly on Europe's reaction to May's speech

-BBC on Parliament Brexit vote

-Simon Jenkins somewhat impressed by May

-Mark Mardell on May's messages to EU

-Bush on May's tensions with right-wing establishment

-Anushka Asthana not happy with Labour's stance on May's speech

-Andrew Grice accuses Brexiteers of fake news
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Re: UK Politics

Unread postby Dong Zhou » Fri Jan 20, 2017 10:53 pm

-Corbyn heads to Scotland to attack SNP budget as devolving austerity while blaming Tories, as standing up for the establishment, backs Scotland constitutional invention having previously undermined Dugdale on it

-Nobody knows Labour whipping for article 50 vote, even the whips

-Surrey council calls referendum for 15% tax rise to cover social care with opposition blaming mismanaging of finances, a lot of eyes will be on this to see if "people willing to pay" is true.

-Martin McGuinness retiring due to ill-health, says DUP need to do ore on reconciliation (tried to invite Foster to N.Ireland and a Republican football game, she only went to one being an example)

-Mike Russell, SNP Brexit Minister, says devolved administrations are getting frustrated with May over communications on Brexit, Sinn Feinn threatening to pull out of process

-Hammond says we need migrants, Trump bigger uncertainty then Brexit, expects interim agreement if full one not arrived at by two year deadline, warns cost of living is going to rise due to pound slump, blames Blair's open door policy for hostility to immigration

-Retail has biggest drop (1.9%) since April 2012

-Wolfgang Schauble expects UK to be a big finical centre in Europe after Brexit

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-Friday DP had a very enjoyable section on Trump with Bonnie Greer, Rees-Mogg and Kate Andrews (always an excellent guest)

-Lord Blencathra in despair that Corbyn's team are going to try to whip up populism ala Trump and Farage, Lord Ashdown says Tories have left it's history of internationalism

-Farage says Trump said Brexit made his win possible

-Pasca Lammy says Brexit may be a false Brexit, government will show how costly it will be to UK and they will back out

-Seamus Milne resigns from guardian

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-Kevin Maguire's Commons confidential

-Amol Rajan on media coverage of May's speech

-Owen Jones on Labour's bind over article 50

-Philip Simm on issues Sturgeon will face if she seeks second independence referendum

-Hardman on Corbyn's whipping problem

-Dejevsky wants a written constitution
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Re: UK Politics

Unread postby Dong Zhou » Sat Jan 21, 2017 6:31 pm

-Boris and May (who also warns of frank talks) send their congrats to the new President

-Churchill bust returned, dear lord the fuss when that got moved out was ridiculous

-D'Arcy's week ahead

-Stoke and Copeland on 23rd February. Maybe hoping to split attentions of rival parties

-Labour selects Gillian Troughton, a former hospital doctor and local councillor, husband in nuclear supply chain, for Copeland. Could be a clever choice given Labour seem to be making campaign about NHS, gives them a local after the ill-will created over parachuting Hunt. As a backer of Owen Smith and long time Corbyn critic, she will not be seen as a Corbyinte when the victory grabbing/blame game begins, also a Reaminer. UKIP gone for NHS worker Fiona Mills so similar logic to Labour perhaps

-Ian Paisley thanks Martin McGuinness for his work on peace process, notably more warm then some of his DUP colleagues

-Welsh Affairs Committee demands new trains with Arriva and government underestimating passenger growth

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-Andrew Neill's This Week intro was amusing

-David Lammy "Every decision on trade will be made to benefit Americans. Hmm - looking forward to this trade deal, then."

-Mike Gapes to vote against article 50

-Owen Paterson going to Germany to urge German business to put pressure on government to make good deal with UK

-Farage hired by Fox News, Osborne hired by BlackRock

-Iain Stewart said he feared entering politics in 80's due to his homosexuality

-John Penrose on we must stop the bad economic habits

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-Peter Oborne on the dying Labour and unhappiness at what Cameron and Osborne now earn

-Kamal Ahmed wonders if easing on immigration may be price for better access to single market
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Re: UK Politics

Unread postby Dong Zhou » Sun Jan 22, 2017 4:33 pm

-May to be first foreign leader to meet Trump on Friday, says his inauguration message was clear

-Trident had a malfunction in July before a major vote on it and May is dodging about when she knew about the malfunction

-Alexander Downer, Australia's high commissioner to the UK, says immigration rules must be relaxed for Australians if UK wants a good trade deal, says deal might be done within eight months of Brexit

-Nuttall to stand in Stoke, accuses Corbyn and co of despising English national identity

-Rumours that if Corbyn loses both by-elections, there will be trouble

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-Not impressed by Anushka Asthana failing to bother to listen to Peirs Morgan when discussing Trump. It helps if your counters reflect what was said

-George Freeman says the inauguration speech was divisive and politics of hate

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-Damien McGuinness says Brexit trip to German businesses went badly

-Ana Romero on Spanish reaction to Brexit
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Re: UK Politics

Unread postby Dong Zhou » Mon Jan 23, 2017 7:54 pm

-Dr Lewis blames Cameron for Trident missile cover up but Downing Street admits May knew (though they argue the test failed headline is inaccurate) and Cameron's former media team are denying they led a cover up. Greg Clark says telling people would have helped our enemies but given we boast about successful tests nobody is buying that. Fallon stonewalls on "don't talk about operational matters" in Commons but warns against believing everything in the press (US then kindly reveals a missile went wrong so self-destructed in ocean as ordered)

-May launches industrial strategy, £556m investment in the Northern Powerhouse, pushes on STEM subjects and technical education

-Corbyn calls for May to confront Trump over misogyny

-Welsh Labour and Plaid wants to remain in single market, to go for Norway model

-ICM gives Tories a 16 point lead, says only 26% of voters want second referendum on Brexit once final deal is known, a third think it should be postponed if no agreement within two years but majorties back May's stances

-Hunt has been appointed steward of the Chiltern Hundreds and Reed steward of the Manor of Northstead

-£ hits five week high (with FTSE100 taking hit) as dollar hit by concerns over Trump's protectionist rhetoric

-Health Minister Michelle O'Neill has become leader of Sinn Feinn, says she has always stood up to a challenge, says Good Friday agreement must be implemented, wants N.Ireland to stay in EU

-Seems Tories are going to a token fight in Stoke but pour resources into Copeland since UKIP have a stronger chance in Stoke

-Robert Hannigan, the head of GCHQ, resigns for health and family reasons

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-Salmond alls May as fawning on Trump. Pot-kettle

-John Prescott not happy May is visiting Trump

-Bercow overheard saying of Fallon "Pick a fight with chairman of the select committee is a rather stupid thing to do"

-Alistair Carmichael defends Lib Dem stance on Brexit

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-One unnamed blogger optimistic about Labour's byelection chances

-Simon Jack on industrial strategy as does d'Ancona and Michael Jacobs

-George Pascoe-Watson on May's media strategy

-Forsyth on Trump making an opportunity for Brexit, concerns at miscommunication, Jeremy Hunt and more
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