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Re: UK Politics

Unread postby Dong Zhou » Tue Oct 03, 2017 7:34 pm

-Gauke gave good defence of Universal Credit

-Been noted how few people are at Tory main speeches

-May says she has no use for a team of yes-men and would make her weak, wonders if Americans might be willing for tighter gun controls, has seen Boris speech in advance, might take a different approach to TV debates next time, warns her racial audit will make uncomfortable reading, suffering from cold, indicates Maybot hurt her feelings, personality is overhyped in terms of being effective in government, denies idea she isn't enjoying being PM

-Telegraph story that David Davis is going to retire in 2019 and give role to Boris is getting a bit of mocking among Tories, including from May. Apparently telegraph overheard a joke from Davies and took it seriously,

-Boris speech title "Let the Lion Roar", UKIP says it fits their logo. Boris takes shots at Osborne (amount of jobs he has), Finical Times and Economist (for not loving Brexit), Labour's attitude towards Venezuela, goes loyal for May, people have forgotten the 70's, argues low tax regimes are successful but they must make market economies work better, we are a global country, we can crack global warming and if we can drive through female education around the world then we can stop extremism. Stop complaining about Brexit and be bold

Seen as a bit empty but good at raising morale

-A sense Tory activists at conference are not pleased with Boris. At all

-Rudd wants to increase jail times for those who look at terrorist material online, accuses tech giants of sneering at politicians , more anti-extremist initiatives needed, will work with business on immigration, selling acid to U18's will be illegal

-Mundell says Sturgeon is out of touch and needs to rule out second referendum now

-Guy Verhofstadt bemoans UK divisions hampering talks, Junker says he could not recommend going to phase 2, Barnier says finical offer doesn't go far enough

-Hunt to increase nurse training places by 25%, more flexible working, NHS staff would get first refusal on affordable homes built on NHS land, a Tory minister Sir Henry Willink pushed for foundation of NHS

-Lidington New Futures Network to help offenders find work when they leave prison, new anti-drone strategy, 20% rise on staff for youth offenders

-Fallon announces 21 state schools more to have cadet forces, hints defence spending will be more then 2% of GDP

-Bank of England warns Brexit could lead to businesses being unable to borrow

-Davies says UK will be good global citizens and could become more international, Brexit is a one off opportunity, have to be prepared for no deal

-Truss says risks should be accepted in public sector policy and accept it will lead to some failures

-IFS says cost of Tories tuition fee changes would be 41% in the long term while saving graduates 15k

-Dr Fox annoyed at constant "despite Brexit" when there is good economic news, free trade brings price down

-Labour are going to have fun with Jo Johnson's suggestion that students struggling for cash work and be more frugal

-Hammond says businesses are duty-bound to argue against Corbyn's economic model and argue for market economy

-Patel announces aid contract reforms

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-Dr Lee warns social contract is fraying and little answers are not enough, Brexit feels like negative virtue signalling to young, Cameron would have only dream of such a share of the vote

-Shapps says McLoughlin is well liked but seems to hate chairman job and should be axed

-Steve Baker happy with May's Brexit plans, warns Corbyn is bigger threat to economy then Brexit, collective responsibility is not suspended

-Lord Ashcroft suggests May use Boris illdisplince to help her hand on EU by pointing to difficulties she faces at home and there is no harm from Boris comments

-Thought Lidington was interesting on DP as he talked about BME attitudes towards justice system

-Craig Mackinlay says British youth need to change their attitudes towards work with "I was struggling to think why wouldn't a youngster from Glasgow without a job come down to the south to work for a farm for the summer with loads of gorgeous EU women working there?" What's not to like? Get on your bike and find a job." The EU woman line has not gone down well

-James Cleverly on Labour avoiding Brexit and Tories problems with young

-The chief executive of the Dover Port Tim Waggott warns getting custom systems in place within two years would be hard and border delays of two more minutes would lead to 17 mile lines

-Rees-Mogg warns party has to treat activists better including policy debate

-Margot James warns there is overoptimism about trade deal and a lot of work upskilling small and medium size business so they export

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-Bush warns Hammond has misread Labour voters

-Polly Toynbee on her impression of Tories based on conference

-Aditya Chakrabortty says Tories poor at capitalism

-Nick Timothy (sun) on how May can show way forward for free market
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Re: UK Politics

Unread postby Dong Zhou » Wed Oct 04, 2017 7:39 pm

May's speech: When the universe hates you.... Two things will be remembered from this speech. 1) The prankster comedian handing May a P45. May handled it with wit, there will be major major questions about the security staff (had it been someone wishing May harm, that person would have been close enough to do so) but it will be the image of the speech so it worked for prankster who will get loads of publicity now while constant images of May getting P45 is not a good look for her. 2) The F in the slogan behind May fell off midspeech. 3) Soon after comedian had left, the cold destroyed her, she began coughing and her voice became more and more strained, almost breaking. Rudd took charge, getting cabinet to rise (in fairness Hammond had already risen) to standing ovation and seemingly trying to warn Boris to prepare to take over if need be, but May fought and fought on to continue. The party rallied to May, applauding her when she needed a break, Hammond and eventually aides (who like security, seemed to be slow to react) getting her cough sweets, May again showing wit each time she was forced to stop and then managed to restart but it robbed her speech of momentum and fluency, it meant it would be what is talked about. When over, May looked tearful which may have been relief, may have been exhaustion and she got out quickly but while Tories may hope to say it showed strength of characters, people will no doubt be brutal, all people will hear is the lady lost her voice

May opened well, starting with the usual thanks but then taking responsibility for election failures: too presidential, too continuity, too scripted and she apologized. May spoke powerfully of the British dream and that for some it no longer held trust, of what drive her (though the constant refrain of "that is what drives me" because annoying), she sacrificed a little of the polish she can bring to the occasion for passion and that was worth it. It was the start and the end when she talked of values, of duty, of the dream and the voices unheard, her bit about her grandmother was good as well, a rebuke to cabinet that what matters is people's lives rather then Westminster gameplaying. Good joke about Osborne taking the ice-maiden too far, when she listed Tory achievements it came across too dry to really sell the compassion side but then she spoke of racial inequalities well and measures she was bringing in, did better then Hammond in setting out a defence of market economy for wider well being. Her attacks on Corbyn were mixed, some good attacks on Labour the nasty party but the Venezuela attack line simply doesn't work, on Brexit she struck a friendly tone while saying they were prepared for no deal, she reached out to try to reassure Eu nationals but being two lines I doubt most heard it.

One tonally interesting thing is May tends to be on the hardline of immigration yet she talked a lot about what migrants brought to the country, of global and diverse Britain of many values, it felt like a deliberate change of tone and emphasis for her. The middle bit covered many subjects (economy, NHS, education, housing, aid, energy) but the coughing ruined delivery and momentum, it tended to wander a bit all over the place without real force, her NHS story didn't work but might have been better if she had focused on her diabetes moment. I thought going to youngsters worried about what image Brexit was by using aid and how it shows a global caring country was a good idea and that bit worked well as did briefly touching on her childlessness before going onto giving chance for others to fulfil their dreams on housing. Her section on looking at how we conduct politics was well delivered and had some good attacks on Corbyn but that was the problem, on one hand some passionate stuff about how we must change to stop hate, on the other hand all her examples were Labour, nothing about the racial abuse of Dianne Abbott. It may have been longer and better delivered then Corbyn's bit but it showed the same lack of leadership he had in failing to confront her own party.

Policies: £2 billion extra for social housing, cap on energy proposals, opt-out organ donation system will be introduced in England (ala Wales), review of the out of date Mental Health Act

Pundits reaction: I liked Freeland's quip "At this moment, Theresa May wakes up, turns to her husband and says, "You won't believe the dream I just had."" but while many are sympathetic with her misfortune, the "if she was on a winning streak, this doesn't happen" is stirring, it will haunt her regime and finish her. MPs (Sturgeon quipped "Spare a thought for those of us still to deliver our conference speech and now fretting about all the things that could go wrong") are sympathetic and this respect for her willingness to keep going.

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-Rumours Rudd has hired Crosby for future leadership campaign, says she is talking to people who can help her hold Hastings

-Boris speech title was changed to "Winning the Future", been noted May didn't turn up for speech and still jogging with Sun political editor

-Nicky Morgan and Sam Gyimah urges party to shut up about the 70's

-There really isn't any hiding from how split Tory ministers are on Brexit: one has the "glorious opportunity, let the wind breeze through our hair" vs the "this could go oh so horribly horribly wrong"

-Rudd backs May running next election

-Boris in fringe event trying to sell positives of Libya but got into trouble "There's a group of UK business people, actually, some wonderful guys who want to invest in Sirte on the coast, near where Gaddafi was captured and executed as some of you may have seen. They have got a brilliant vision to turn Sirte into the next Dubai.The only thing they have got to do is clear the dead bodies away".

Lib Dems and Heidi Allen call for him to be sacked, Labour call it crass, Dr Wollaston says she is appalled, Damian Green says Boris should have been more sensitive with his language, Jeremy Hunt says he will not try to defend it but Boris is doubling down and saying his critics should be ashamed of playing politics with Libya.

-Dr Fox remarks it is best for minister to stick to strict script on Brexit

-MEP's demand EU doesn't begin phase two talks without major breakthrough by 557 MEPs, with 92 against and 29 abstentions. Farage accuses them of treating UK like hostages

-A sense fringe has been lively but the main hall has been flat and Patel's star is rising somewhat

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-Davies speech pretty decent

-Sir Alan Duncan (under Boris) says working class Brexit voters were throwing a tantrum over immigrants taking jobs said Brexiteers refused to do themselves, Brexit labour shortages could harm NHS, wanted a turnout threshold ala Scottish devolution, leave campaign (led by Boris) stirred up prejudice , remain voting youngsters will face the consequences of the old Brexiteers actions. His job is to turn disaster into opportunity and EU trade deal would be first priority and we might not need one with US, Remain allowed Cameron and Osborne to dominate

UKIP want him sacked

-Soubry said she asked Boris to resign

-Villiers thinks it would be great for Ruth Davidson to be leader and Cleverly very good at getting message out to non Tories

-Bernard Jenkin wants government to guarantee free movement for top EU musicians, music industry is paralysed by fears on not having this and need answer soon. Minister Hancock suggests sympathy on this

-Sir Ed Davey disagrees with Rudd on encryption

-Lord Mayor of London Andrew Parmley says City of London needs a legally binding Brexit transition period by the end of the year

-Ken Clarke suggests Boris go study foreign policy and concentrate on his job, turned conference into mayhem

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-Eaton on Boris speech reminded him of David Miliband

-Anoosh Chakelian on Tories talking about Labour

-Hardman warns Tories seem exhausted and out of idea's and not a fan of May's speech

-Behr on Tories struggling to face reality and EU well aware of Brexiteers comments

-Kuessenberg on glum mood at conference

-Bush five thoughts on conference

-Andrew Grice calls the speech fatal for May
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Re: UK Politics

Unread postby Dong Zhou » Thu Oct 05, 2017 6:46 pm

Tory conference: How many times can I say disaster? Many journalists saying worst they have ever seen of a governing party and possibly worst Tory conference. Spiked from pre-day 1 by Boris indiscipline, ambitions and attention seeking combining with a sense of May's weakness as she struggled to even suggest he could be sacked. Boris attempts to tilt Brexit in away he favours doesn't seem to be working as cabinet figures start deliberately winding up him about transition length and on play for power, it has put him in the lead among activists but not considerably so, he remains leader of the uninspiring. However he has to get past MP's, he has around 30 which is not a lot and it feels like the rest hate him. Even some of his fellow Brexiteers have remarked he should stick to script and plenty of MP's seem to respond to "Hello" with "I HATE BORIS" with all sorts of shots flying in about him or about his version of Brexit. While he has allies in press, is a feeling Boris has missed his moment.

Let us pretend, for a moment, Boris hadn't sabotaged things and made yet another conference about him (I'll give you a moment to stop laughing)... it was still bad. Started with May's jittery and seemingly lacking confidence opening day interviews and just went downhill from there. Fringe events were lively by all accounts but the main floor was, even Tory cabinet ministers agree, were flat. Policy? Some good but side issue ones and some that feel Corbyn-lite which neither solves an issue or if one believes in the direction then one would vote Corbyn, no game changing moment on housing or tuition fees. People are making comments about May feeling like Ed Miliband, she is great at spotting the issues (racial inequality, austerity tiredness, need to make case for free market, housing, youth reaction to Brexit is a real long term issue for Tories, paying for university, so on) but has no real solutions. The party is split heavily on Brexit, there is a real battle between those who are wishing to push for an optimistic version like the three Brexiteers and figures like Hammond who warn there are immense challenges and difficulty (some rather more open that they think it is a potentially disastrous idea).

There is no leadership figure emerging, usually during such conferences when a leader is weak, wannabe leaders flash their ankles and one or two really make an impression and while Patel's star has risen, there is nobody really rallying people to them, who feels like the answer. Rees-Mogg and Ruth Davidson are the two figures pulling in the crowds with one of them unable to run, business has outright turned on Tories and hammered Hammond's speech which just does not happen for Tory chancellors, there is no sense the Tory election machine is about to be fixed, a sense the party is tired, their attacks on Corbyn need a lot of work (70's and Venezuela isn't working, nasty party stuff sometimes does) but they begun defending the market economy and making that case which they badly need to do as a starting point but they also need answers to problems. They feel like a party awaiting defeat with no idea of how to change things, of no hope but just grinding on.

As for May, it has not been her week. She is probably safe (I use probably because my predictions on such things tend to be wrong) as there is nobody to quickly switch to for MP's, few want charge of Brexit and they fear an early change will bring through Corbyn but her attempt to launch a revival has fallen flat. The party mood is down, in interviews she sounded jittery and struggled compared to Corbyn interview style, when the speech came, everything but sprinklers coming on and a wild lion escaping from zoo happened. There will be sympathy and none of the speech issues are her fault (the Manchester police owe her, the conference team owes her) but it is what people will remember, it adds to a sense of failure and that she is not up to being leader.

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-Press believe Boris has around 30 MP supporters. He needs about 100 to get into final round for leadership elections

-Press noting that Brexit could be a disaster for Tories in that the young feel it is a rejection of their values and aren't likely to warm to the Brexit party to say the least

-Accusations Boris smirked during May's coughing. I did see Boris looking miserable and Rudd telling him to stand up for standing ovation as cabinet tried to buy her time

-Nigel Dodds says electoral deal will last beyond two years, Foster jokes she believes in the single market of the UK

-Angela Eagle and Rayner slam security for failing to protect May

-Rudd warns against cutting immigration too fast, comfortable with 100,000 target as setting a direction but shouldn't be a date on it

-Rumours of a leadership letter circling among Tory MP's though it would seem seeking support for a "have a talk and get May to resign" rather then triggering leadership election. It doesn't seem to be going well, plotters saying too many refusing to sign up unless it hits a certain threshold and plenty suspecting a "hate Boris" mood is dampening the revolt

-Call sales fell by 9.3% in one month with six months of decline due to drop in consumer confidence, loss of faith in diseal, businesses cutting back and some blaming Brexit. Finical Tiimes sees Hammond's reserves have been wiped out and OBR is about to be very pessimistic as it realized it has overestimated productivity for 7 years. Pound keeps to month low

-A lot of MP's publicly backing May Cleverly proud of PM, Redwood liked her strong message and says MP's have warmth for her, Zahawi praises her grit and determination, Sir Cable called May brave, Alistair Campbell says May's team let her down by failing to ensure her preparation ensured her voice held out, Bridge says she should stay till Brexit is done, Freeman says May did what was needed (apologize and show sense of humour) and sense of duty is like the Queen's. Geoffrey Clifton-Brown, treasurer of the backbench 1922 committee, says May's performance has to improve including offering a vision but there is goodwill towards her while vice chair Charles Walker says May is doing an outstanding job, minister Tracy Crouch says her constituents are behind May

-UK and EU agree formula for splitting food tariffs and import quotas' between them. Slight problem is US, Brazil, Argentina, Canada, New Zealand, Uruguay and Thailand have sought to block it. Has Boris told them how wonderful Brexit is yet and how easy trade deals will be?

-Federation of German Industries warns of very hard Brexit as UK doesn't seem to have a cohesive vision of what it wants from Brexit and has formed a taskforce to prepare including some of Germany's biggest companies. Didn't they listen to Boris?

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-Lord Ashcroft warns party doesn't look like it knows what it is doing

-Nadine Dorrie says Remainers are having a cruel plot against Boris when they called for him to go or condemn Libya comments

-One trade union had a competition for who could have selfie with biggest right-winger at Labour conference. The winner was with Ben Bradshaw

-Ed Vaziey says there is a mood among MP's that May should go, he can't see way forward and conference wasn't rebooted it needed (he didn't attend the conference)

-Sarwar has proposed a higher child tax credit of £10 a week targeted at poor families in Scotland but would make it means tested

-Progress, despite loss of main donor Lord Sainsbury, has secured funding for next three years

-Nigel Evans "Think I’ll answer all unknown calls to mobile today with “ hello, Theresa May fan club” and wait for the journalists to hang up."

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-Bush on leadership manoeuvrings

-Larry Elliot on May struggling with a once in a generation shift

-Simon Jenkins believes May has been strengthened

-Anoosh Chakelian Corbyinte slang

-Mary Dejevsky suggests Boris for Brexit post

-Paul Goodman not happy with May's speech and suggests Boris for future leader
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Re: UK Politics

Unread postby Sun Fin » Fri Oct 06, 2017 12:34 pm

I wonder how much of the party are missing the Cameron/Osborne axis. That said I'm sure Osborne is alienating everyone in the party at the moment!
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Re: UK Politics

Unread postby Dong Zhou » Fri Oct 06, 2017 6:36 pm

Sun Fin wrote:I wonder how much of the party are missing the Cameron/Osborne axis. That said I'm sure Osborne is alienating everyone in the party at the moment!


Not seen any sign of it and yeah, Osborne's revenge tactics and stirring has done a lot of damage to his reputation. Cameron not being pro-Brexit enough perhaps, the sense "we would have won anyway/will again once our true selves emerge" they always felt, Cameron and the party were never bosom buddies. Despite being the only figure to win a Tory majority for decades but they are comforting themselves with "May won more votes"

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-Shapps (who argues Tories have every right to ask May to go) and Vaziey seen as leaders of the anti-May revolt with about 30 MP's but gives the feeling of angry former Cameroons. Cabinet keeping well away from this

-Gove looking at banning nearly all ivory sales

-Sturgeon on Brexit and state of SNP

-Productivity down 0.1% with manufacturing particularly struggling

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-Clegg suggests those that care about stopping hard Brexit join political party of their choosing to make their voices heard

-Florence Welch and Calvin Harris not happy their music used at Tory conference

-Charles Walker certainly gave a passionate and able defence of May in one BBC interview

-Stanley Johnson says Boris was right about Brexit after hearing Juncker's speech

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-Bush warns even a good Brexit could hurt the Tories

-Martin Kettle doubts May's foes will strike

-John Harris worries passions have got too high and activists need to remember importance of journalism

-Eaton on Tory leadership rules and May will survive

-James Kirkup says sticking with May is best of the bad options

-Neil Ferguson warns ories failure to understand new networks means they will be crushed

-Andrew Grimson really pushing Boris
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Re: UK Politics

Unread postby Dong Zhou » Sat Oct 07, 2017 4:37 pm

-Tom Watson asks Prem not to do Christmas Eve fixtures

-A sense Tory whips leaked Shapps revolt to put people off as his lack of support became clear

-Gove was only senior member of cabinet at Boris speech

-Boris telling people to read Rudd's article about need for loyalty

-Ruth Davidson says MP's need to put up or shut up and get behind May, Shapps is not a seroius leader for such a coup, rebels seem very men led (not the only Tory to be rather annoyed at a male coup)

-Plaid end agreement of cooperation with Welsh-Labour now budget has passed, Welsh Labour says it was amicable and Wood says the agreement had caused some confusion on doorstep. Carwyn Jones now has majority of 2

-Sturgeon says she is an ally of Ireland in Brexit, that Scotland and Ireland has same views on the matter and will fight to keep Irish border open

-SNP to miss start of Parliamentary week due to their conference

-D'Arcy's Week Ahead

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-Tad sorry for Andrew Mitchell who is doing Shapps local Tory party annual dinner as booked six months ago but of course, it looks dreadful now

-Nadine Dorries calls Shapps coup pathetic, Baroness Warsi suggests "My message to Grant Shapps is really shut up."

-Shapps finally added to Tory What's app group but only so he can read the insults with lots of jokes the 30's name are "Michael Green's" (reference to his business name) and that he is doing Osborne's freezer job.

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-New Statements already doing a runners and riders to replace May

-Bush bemoans talk of vote share

-Hardman and Katy Balls on anger towards Shapps and Boris

-Henry Newman on cabinet agree on transition but not what happens after

-Luke Akehurst on Momentum's role in Labour conference

-Oliver Wiseman says Tory membership is a bigger problem then May
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Re: UK Politics

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-When asked about a reshuffle, May remarks she never shies away from a challenge

-Boris says only nutters would seek to bring down May

-James Cleverly being linked with the plotters

-Sir Major on his vision for the Tories

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-Rawnsley calls May lucky and looks at the main contenders for her job

-Forsyth (Sun) what May needs to do to shore up her position, tension with Treasury, anger over energy cap, concerns that Oliver Robbins may compromise too much to get to phase 2
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Re: UK Politics

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-May says they can prove Brexit doomsayers wrong, progress won't always be smooth but she wants a good deal and a special relationship with EU, both sides need to show leadership and flexibility, Brexit will be a defining moment in UK history, admits ECJ will have say during transition period. She and European Commission in disagreement who needs to make next move

-Sturgeon says Hollyrood will pay any "settled status" fee for EU figures in public service, wants dialogue between Madrid and Catalonia, receptive to second Brexit referendum, wants Commons to keep UK in single market

-Green co-leader Jonathan Bartley says they are changing political weather on things like fracking, Living Wage, climate change

-Is a sense factions within party want Boris or Hammond sacked while Boris allies telling press he will refuse to be moved (and press sceptical Boris will be sacked)

-SNP offer £20,000 bursaries to people to change career to become teachers in key subject areas. Scottish Labour and Tories both claim credit. SNP asking for drug policy to be devolved and declaring it a health matter, ban sex for rent, condemn Spanish government for handling of Catalonia, looking at land value tax

-Tories remove whip from South West MEP Julie Girling and South East MEP Richard Ashworth when they back EU motion saying not to start phase 2 talks

-ICM has May as better PM then Corbyn by 9 points but gap is closing and that people think each of her likely successors would do worse

-Ireland’s Office of the Revenue Commissioners report on Irish border has leaked, says invisible border is naive, will need to be custom posts and significant facilities on the border but some form of common travel area might still exist

-Gove trying to persuade fellow Brexiteers not to worry too much about form of transition period takes, just as long as they get to Brexit in the end but rather less helpfully to May, mentions he wants maximum freedom to diverge from EU

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-Unhappiness among figures like Jess Philips, Flint and Zahwai at gender not being on census

-Nadine Dorries demands Hammond be sacked for hampering Brexit talks, Bernard Jenkin says Hammond and the entire Treasury are under sway of EU

-Zahwai thinks May could survive to next election if she gets good deal, no advantages to no deal which would hurt both sides badly

-Flint predicts Brexit deal and May being hampered by Cameron blocking Whitehall from preparing for Brexit

-Bernard Jenkin says EU is being stubborn, we shouldn't offer more concessions, attacks Treasury

-George Kerevan applied to chair Finical Conduct Authority to give, at least partly, Scotland more of a say but he isn't hopeful

-Gerry Adams on Catalonia issue

-Rees-Mogg not happy over ECJ role in transition period and seems he is not the only Brexiteer not happy

-A fair few Labour Mp's asking if article 50 can be legally revoked

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-Brian Taylor on SNP conference

-Prfoesor Steeve Peers twitter thread on new Brexit custom proposal papers
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Re: UK Politics

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-May got big cheers from MP's as she started Brexit speech to Commons, she backs Iran deal and refuses to say which side she would back today in a Brexit referendum (4 times)

-Karen Bradley in row with TV Licensing Authority over whether why her constituency office has no TV license paid

-Care Quality Commission warns NHS straining at the seams and facing a precarious future

-Alok Sharma reviewing rules on illegal encampments

-SNP to double childcare spending, carers are to be exempt from council tax, Glasgow to be first low emission zone in Scotland, creating a publicly owned energy company, Island of Ulva to be taken into community ownership, £6 million Rural Tourism Infrastructure Fund

-Greens want new bank holiday to celebrate the contribution of migrants to British society.

-Baroness Trumpington to retire at age of 95 having joined Lords in 1980.

-Sturgeon says SNP should prepare for 10 more years of power

-UK trade gap on goods at record high, UK manufacturing output rose by 0.4% in August which is better then expected, construction output rose by 0.65 which is first time since May

-OBR expects to significantly downgrade UK's productivity growth

-A sense SNP still have big plans for the (now bearded) Angus Robertson and there are major divides on when to hold second referendum

-Hollyrood interview Sturgeon

-President Tusk says EU aren't preparing for no deal, hoping for Phase 2 by Christmas

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-Bernard Jenkins blames EU for slow pace of talks

-Soubry says Monarch's collapse was not due to Brexit

-Sir Soames says he met Mugabe due to his father's history

-Wishart says SNP must create new vision for independence before seeking another referendum, Mhairi Black rather disagrees

-SNP delegates vote for the Queen to lose her state funding but Westminster issue and SNP have said they plan to ignore that vote

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-Hardman warns promoting new figures isn't enough it has to be the right new figures and government may have trouble with Universal Credit revolt

-Bush on May having to be wary of own party on Brexit and the Irish question

-Martin Kettle on change of SNP tone

-Steve Richards on Europe destroying yet another Tory leader

-Tom Goodenough on EU change of tone

-Chris Deerin says SNP have wasted a chance for independence and must calm down before next one emerges

-Professor Vernon Bogdanor on majority thresholds
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Re: UK Politics

Unread postby Dong Zhou » Wed Oct 11, 2017 4:54 pm

PMQ's: Corbyn starts with asking for pause in Universal Credit rollout, May goes for essay on general principle of Universal Credit which was well argued but doesn't answer the question, Corbyn goes on general attack of Universal Credit with good use of statistics but probably should have made clear his backing for the principle, May says they have already improved the system and are keeping an eye on it. Corbyn again uses stats (and Sir Major), May comes up with a stat that differs from Corbyn about rent arrears, Corbyn uses a letter of someone who had bad experience, May offers to look at that person's case and goes on attack of Labour's record (been a long time since then though), Corbyn proudly defended Labour's record on poverty then attacks May's record on poverty and Universal Credit payphone requiring being chargeable. This time May didn't have more then a generic answer, Corbyn went into generic attack of Tory record, May had a good defence of government record (each one cheered by backbenches) and quite a punch with Labour's conference on them being the nasty party. Corbyn had good stats and the phone being chargeable was a good attack that he didn't follow up (note to Corbyn, watch how Andrew Neill did it to Liz Truss afterwards) but generally it lacked punch and May, who had a fairly good performance, gave some good defence of Universal Credit and general record without showing fleetness of foot to deal with specific issues.

Ian Blackford goes on May's Brexit vote, she pushes off with "no second referendum" before Blackford went on general attack on Brexit, May sharply retorted SNP should show leadership and recognize the need to remain in UK. Don't think Bercow's attempt to call to order by going "we are not having any pranksters here" went down well, Sir Bone asks May to rule out extending transition period which May does

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-I wonder if Labour's triumphalist and lecturing attitude led by Dawn Butler rather then welcoming racial inequality report will bite them

-Hammond says he won't spend money preparing for no deal (which has led to a collective "what the..." from all sides), certainty would stimulate the economy, his job to be realistic. Then tells Treasury Committee uncertainty is damaging the economy, productivity is harmed by poor public infrastructure/sills gap/massive regional disparity and that is dragging down the economy, his article was meant to give message that Treasury would spend as needed in no deal but won't spend early to make a political point, in theory no deal could lead to no air-flights between UK and EU but he doesn't see that happening but doesn't give the "unlikely to happen" to no custom data-sharing. Yet to find suitable external candidate for financial policy committee, EU leaders need to be engage more in getting transition deal sorted out but thinks they will be flexible, astonished phase 2 hasn't started. Hints a lot of things depend on what kind of Brexit we get, warns if talks get into a bad tempered collapse then we won't having everything ready on day 1

-Journalists and Brexiteers have well noted May's refusal to say she would vote Brexit. She kind of get away with refusing to say Brexit is a good idea at election but she is going to be asked about "could you vote Brexit" time and time again while Brexiteers are a bit split on this. Corbyn has refused to say which way he would vote but will likely get less attention

Farage wonders how May can lead Brexit talks if she doesn't believe in it, Bernard Jenkins says May is trying to avoid being divisive

-Damien Green says it would have been better if we voted Remain. Honest but not helpful to May

-President Tusk says both sides may have to have a rethink if talks continue this slow, Barnier says lunch with Davies was constructive

-Boris says Iran deal was a historic achievement

-Hunt says he would vote Brexit this time round due to Osborne's warnings failing to come true and European Commission attitude, Truss would do same for similar reasons

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-Soubry wonders why SNP MP's are demanding government do more to save BAE while demanding BAE curb defence sales

-David Owen says he can see Corbyn being PM, is likeable an feels Corbyn has handled dissent better then Foot did but feels economy is a weak point

-David Jones says budget should set aside a lot of money for no deal to make a show to EU

-Credit to jenny Chapman for managing to show humour and honesty as she said McDonnell's section on PFI in his shadow chancellor speech was wrong

-Baroness Jones on road deaths

-Julian Knight calls for BBC News to double down on impartiality

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-D'Arcy on the newly formed select committee's

-Chris Morris looks at what no-deal means

-Kuessenberg on May's Brexit question

-Julia Rampen on Sturgeon's speech

-Hardman says now may be time for social care reform

-Behr on Brexiteers embracing the pain

-James Elles blames Cameron for destroying Remain's chances

-Eaton on 1922 committee

-Alex Massie on SNP and Unionists need a plan B
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