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Re: UK Politics

Unread postby Dong Zhou » Tue May 30, 2017 6:47 pm

The Sky/channel 4 interviews: Corbyn went first (thanks to coin-toss), didn't seem entirely at ease with the audience section but he showed a bit of humour, a lot of real passion for the manifesto and his vision of Britain. Once or twice I fared he was going to do badly with the way he started his answers but finished well like why he feels more taxes are needed. Not sure he will have won over small business given he failed to explain how he would help them but focused on wider society, loved his bit on needing to listen. A lot of the questions where concerns about security, Brexit came up once, immigration once (said he believes it will probably go down), leadership once. Managed to get through IRA decently but with questionable honesty, came across decently on immigration given he clearly disagrees with public and trying to juggle that. Generally did well on Paxman, possible brain-freeze on benefits aside, with only one flash of annoyance, a lot of humour, brilliantly handled the republican issue to delight of audience and Paxman's attempt to go for "your weak, look how many of your beliefs didn't get into manifesto" failed. However he needed to really sell on foreign policy given security concern yet I don't think he really managed to sell his argument and even carcrashed. Asked about McDonnell wanting to abolish MI5, Corbyn went with that thing where he takes 5 answers to answer the question and failed to address that issue with anything more then "McDonnell backs funding for MI5 in manifesto" which I don't think will convince anyone while his Falklands being Tory plot quote (from back then) is an ouch one. Generally a good performance but that MI5 thing risked being a disaster. Would like to hear what he would do about an ungoverned space where we are not involved

May seemed more at ease in audience section but lacked the humour of Corbyn, clearly Tory cuts and nasty party remain an issue for Tories but she was able to use it as a chance to sell her social care reforms and do it well, dodged around Boris 350 million claim. Paxman inflicted damage by poking at May's history of U-turns and immigration failure, notable that May refused to say she thinks Brexit is a good idea though Paxman stuck too much to "will you walk away from a bad deal" when May was making clear she would. Her performance was pretty good, gave a hint at difficult times ahead and sold social care well but got little chance to take attack to Corbyn and while she got strong applause at the end, audience laughed at her a few times including heckling when she said Labour sums don't add up. While her performance was good, overall she had a harder time and came off less well then Corbyn (bar his security issue problem) with her U-turns really hurting. It is turning against May due to the heckles

Also win for Andrew Neill with Paxman getting a lot of flak

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-Raab says some people don't use foodbanks due to poverty but a cashflow problem but seems to misunderstood the data

-Corbyn goes off message in radio interview and says would talk to SNP about referendum, Scottish Labour officials are not pleased. Corbyn on Labour childcare costs "a lot" and logs into ipad to try to find out the actual number then asks interviewer to come back to it on the day they are launching their childcare policy. He did so well last night and seems to have spent this morning trying to undermine all of it. The journalist who asked him wicked Blairite questions such as "what is the cost of the policy of the day" Emma Barnett is being punished by Corbyites by getting anti-Semitic abuse. After about 5 or six hours of this, Corbyn condemned it in a"don't send personal abuse to journalists" (it was a good speech on not doing it but would have added something about don't be anti-Semitic)

-Gwynne and Boris clash to point of finger-pointing in media room for debate

-Nuttall calls for internment without trial for terrorism suspects as a potential tool, says waterboarding might be needed in extreme circumstances, predicts UKIP will be bigger then ever by end of 2018 due to May backsliding. Didn't crash during Nuttall interview but seems to be gambling going hardline will shore up support

-Survation lead of 6 with a wide lead saying foreign interventions increase risk of terrorism, Jewish Chronicle poll says Labour has backing of 13% of British Jews, ICM 12 points with Corbyn only leader seen as running a good campaign, May handled Manchester attacks well with a third thinking Corbyn would have done worse

-SNP want immigration devolved (might be tricky), will cost against any NHS privatization in England or cuts to NHS funding, 50p tax rate but only if rest of UK does it, £118bn economic stimulus package for the UK economy, protection of the universal winter fuel payments for older people, scrap cap of 1% on public sector pay rises, protect the triple lock on pensions. Sturgeon quick to silence activists booing media. They also quietly change their referendum demand to after Brexit process is complete

-May says economic success, NHS, transport, education rely on a good Brexit deal, wishes to shift balance in favour of working people, accuses EU of adopting aggressive stance, immigration causes unemployment, warns if Tories lose only six seats then Corbyn becomes PM.

-Dan Mulhall, Ireland’s ambassador to London, says they wish UK to remain in EU and warn of any hardening of border, around 70,000 from UK have applied for Irish passport last year

-David Davis says Labour are naive in thinking EU will give good deal based on Labour being nice

-Rayner says May's tactics make us look like ogres to EU and a laughing stock

-Tories protest SNP manifesto launch

-Rudd tries to reassure Germany we will be a strong partner and pledges crackdown on domestic abuse

-Barnier urges MEP's to be diligent of UK lowering consumer standards and may create unfair competition

-Carwyn Jones says migration cap is meaningless and could hit Welsh NHS

-Leanne Wood and Caroline Lucas says questions need to be asked about if Manchester attacks could have been prevented

-Greens have a giant green question mark to symbolize lack of environmental policies and debate

-SDLP call for border poll aka Irish referendum

-IFS says SNP plans would reduce deficit on similar level as Labour, lower then Labour on day day spending but doing more on reversing welfare cuts with extra funding mostly coming from borrowing, less investment then Labour

-May's naked Corbyn turn of phrase (calling Bevan's pro-nukes speech) has caused much weeping among the press

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-Quentin Letts asks May if she is a "glumbucket"

-Ed Miliband praises Corbyn performance, Farage felt Corbyn came across well but expects May to bend with the weather

-Tory candidate in Jo Cox's seat Ann Myatt has apologized, blaming tiredness, for going “We’ve not yet shot anybody so that’s wonderful."

-Gove vs Gardiner got quite ugly and shouty on DP

-Patrick McGuire interviews Barry Gardiner

-Greens young (19) candidate in Plymouth Moor Josh Pope uring people to vote for Labour candidate Sue Dann

-Osborne lays into May's election campaign

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-On the debates Rentoul, Forysth, Hugh Muir and Bush, Owen Jones

-Anne McElvoy says broad church parties are finding it harder then ever

-Richard Warry on our short lived PM George Canning

-Nick Faith on Tory education reforms

-Robert Colvile thinks aftermath of election will be more interesting then the election itself
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Re: UK Politics

Unread postby Dong Zhou » Wed May 31, 2017 6:35 pm

-Apparently Corbyn made a warm figure on One Show, had a nice joke when childhood photo's were brought out but angered Mumsnet by cutting short the interview with the users

-Youguv survey says May will lose seats and majority with 310 though even Youguv warn to take that with a lot of salt, ICM gives 12 lead, Panelbase 15, Ipsos Mori in Scotland has May's approval rating collapse to -27, Sturgeon slips to -4 the worst of the Scottish party leaders (Patrick Harvie best on +12 though 34% had no view or never heard of him), May has only 2% lead on Corbyn as best PM (Corbyn's ratings up to -13%) but expects SNP to hold onto 40 seats

-Bercow says he intends to serve full term as Speaker which may see attempts by some Tories to block it

-UKIP skip Stonewall's LGBT hustings

-Welsh leaders debate sees Tory chaos as neither Cairns (as secretary of state) or Andrew Davies as Welsh Tory leader turn up, Welsh education spokesperson Darren Millar sent with Davies saying he thought Cairns was doing it and so he had gone on honeymoon. Bit of a civil war going on between Welsh Tories and UK Tories

-Corbyn tweets "Only Labour can be trusted to unlock the talent of Black, Asian and Minority Ethnic people." Non-white Tories sarcastically tweeting their thanks to Corbyn. Corbyn now trying to say he opposes second Scotland referendum, says win would be bigger upset then Istanbul, refuses to rule out some sort of deal in hung parliament

-Jon Ashworth joking he has been revising policy numbers all night before doing media rounds, backs Dilnot plan

-Labour push on investment for public services vs Tory cuts

-Sterling dashes about depending on latest poll, consumer confidence rises to -5, we exported a record amount of food and drink in the first quarter of 2017 but our food trade deficit widened 19%, mortgage approvals falling to a seven month low, FTSE100 all time high, UK -jointbottom of G7 growth rate (thanks Italy)

-BBC on what is devolved to Holllyrood and SNP manifesto at a glance

-Leak that Labour looking at unskilled workers visa

-Tories select 7 candidates in N.Ireland

-Shadow Welsh Secretary Christina Rees feels Corbyn has become less of an issue on doorstep

-Hunt says staffing plans for NHS rely on a good Brexit

-Ofcom has received 38 complaints about Paxman daring to ask Corbyn questions. Ofcom quickly decides it is a waste of their time

-Nice line by Rayner on May "This prime minister is for turning but not for turning up."

-Foster urges voters to end border poll calls for a generation with their vote

-New Statesmen backing Labour for sake of strong opposition, Finical Times backing Tories but is worried it will go into hard Brexit and needs for May to widen her circle

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- Alliance Party councillor and activist Michael Long attacked by dog

-Labour should not have sent Fabian Hamilton to explain Labour Trident policy on DP

-Captain Ska’s Liar Liar Ge2017 (is about May) is third in UK charts

-Russell Brand backs Corbyn

-Eaton interviews Umunna

-Farage remarks "strong and stable" for May seems a long time ago now

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-Liam Barnes visits Mansfield

-Brain Taylor on SNP manifesto launch

-Behr on EU reaction to us

-Sean O’Callaghan urges Labour to expose Corbyn's mistruths about his past with IRA

-Kuessenberg thinks Corbyn entering TV debate is right move

-New Statesmen editorial on state of Labour

-Dr Martin Parsons calls for a change on how aid is defined

-Mathew Norman suggests even losing seats could see Corbyn strengthened

-Andrew Grice on vagueness of Tory manifesto on the economy
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Re: UK Politics

Unread postby Dong Zhou » Thu Jun 01, 2017 6:33 pm

BBC debate: Mishal Husain hosted, shorter closing statement and she allowed debate to flow freely/get very chaotic which meant some figures struggled to get beyond their initial statement to question, her attempt to ask everyone a specific question didn't always work (example Angus Robertson saying emigration was a big problem for Scotland, don't ask if he would have a limit to immigration). Felt one saw the bigotry of progressives with some nasty attacks and twisting of words, saying Islamist extremism being a problem is not the same as blaming all Muslims or saying all terrorists are Muslims. Comres that did the audience may want to have another look, seemed like more on the left then on the right though might be due to more left-wing parties

From left-to-right: Farron had a really good joke at the end about May not bothering, another of his attacks failed because Caroline Lucas had just done the same point but better, he struggled to really get involved, did same ancedoates but less of them and less of Brexit however failed to really sell his NHS funding plans, good on need for climate change action. Kept going on too long and having to be cut off. Caroline Lucas is an accomplished performer and it showed, she got stuck in and made some good points, her end speech made a decent argument for "we aren't going to win but you should vote for us because" however having attempted to show Greens are more then climate change people in first debate, she moved back to Greens heartlands rather then reach out. Corbyn was solid (media divided between good and a bit poor), could kill a question by waffling down a separate route, was a rarity in he actually addressed what leadership means when that was the question (most went on Brexit), a bit of passion here, a moment f humour there but didn't seem to suit him in way the sky one had and he never really pushed on May's absence. I did feel when asking about costings, he kind of forget to include "and this will be paid for by". Leane Wood arguably had the best joke when she asked Nuttall about divorce, she did fairly well as she went for Welsh Labour but lacked detail in policy and got somewhat squeezed out. Amber Rudd (who given her father died on Monday, May owes a lot) came in with a decent reputation following Remain campaign and has enhanced it, delivery early on could be halting though it did improve, she made a nice argument for living in one's means but was forced on the defensive so often, her attacks were met with laughter (bar an effective one on Corbyn's lack of support from MP's being a problem on Brexit) which is a wider Tory issue now, she went too much onto Brexit early on which is partly a wider Tory issue as well and she did learn to stop doing that, on leadership she pointed out Corbyn problems but didn't sell May the leader. She did well in handing the attacks, she failed to land damaging blows herself though as was piled on and the wider issues for the Tories were there and despite her best efforts, she isn't the PM (not saying she won't be) and that clearly is an issue that Rudd could only have changed by becoming a transformer in front of camera's. Paul Nuttall was better this time, didn't forget anyones names, better delivery and he finished well as UKIP the honest outsider telling truth to power but was on backfoot for most of it as he was constantly under attack from other parties for things he hadn't said. Angus Robertson impressed me in a way I haven't tended to be at PMQ's, perhaps because he went for less attacks and more thoughtful, authoritative and gave interesting answers, tended to stay on sidelines. Dugdale and Davidson may be a bit annoyed that SNP have been allowed to go through these debates unchallenged by their own UK leaders.

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-Alliance Party calls for second referendum and N.Ireland to be allowed to remain in single market and customs union

-May says she was busy preparing for Brexit while Corbyn wastes time on TV, doesn't say if she watched it or deny Rudd could be chancellor, refuses to condemn Trump over Paris agreements, says this is a chance to reaffirm the Brexit vote and goes for an optimistic speech on what we can become with Brexit

-Youguv gives Tories a 3 point lead, Youguv London (Osborne not keeping quiet) says Corbyn has lead on best PM in London, Youguv Wales says Labour gain two seats there

-Corbyn would bring his cat, El Gato, to Downing Street, floats idea of ending some of the past students debts, says Boris lied about £350 million, no Brexit deal would be a disaster, is willing to forget any mean things his MP's have said and open to a group hug, opposed to bloodsports

-Mail formerly accuses BBC of bias by 1) ignoring that BBC didn't select that audience, 2) misquoting George Eaton

-Labour promise to order rail companies to only increase fares by a maximum of a lower measure of inflation than is currently used.

-Foster calls for all paramilitaries to be disbanded but faces questions over meeting UDA leader Jackie McDonald

-Some press musing May should let Rudd lead the campaign

-Alliance aiming for two seats

-Boris bemoans left-wing bias on debate audience, ducks Trump on climate change

-Debbie Abrahams refuses to commit to reversing all benefit cuts

-House prices fall 0.2%, a third month of falling prices which hasn't happened since the finical crash, Italy growth uprated so we are worst performing in G7,
average price of a bottle of wine in the UK has risen over £5.50 for the first time ever

-Economist bemoans choice but backs Lib Dems, expects them to be thumped but preparing for a third party to emerge

-Unite ballot 2% of Bank of England staff on strike action over pay

-Thornberry says we will struggle to trade food products with Australia as food will go off on journey... She then as the cheek, when urging people to stop booing a journalist, to call a question about what happens during hung parliament (plus Sinn Feinn issue) stupid. Later rules out a deal with another party

-Tories raise 10 times more then Labour in past week, three times over election campaign

-Sir Stramer says no immigration target

-Nearly twice as many viewers opted to watch Britain’s Got Talent over the BBC’s general election debate

-UKIP education spokesperson David Kurten calls climate change a meaningless phrase and pull out of Paris agreements, says we should concentrate on plastic in oceans and deforestation, chemicals in water

-May skipping out on woman's hour, sending Greening (was going to be Rudd initially). Corbyn may have messed up badly there but he at least had the guts to go on

-Farron vows to campaign for Remain in any second referendum

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-Philip Cowley says the two things that kept coming up in London survey is 1) May (and Corbyn in early one) ducking out of debates, 2) Abbott

-Farage unhappy with BBC audience

-Lord Ashdown says May might lose

-House of Cards twitter account mock May's no show

-Didn't know SDP were still going

-Thorpe Park puts politicians as part of the horror ride in bid to encourage voting

-Sky's Darren McCaffery
EVERY traditional @UKLabour voter I speak to in Bridgend tempted by @Theresa_May at start, now sticking with party, as PM runs bad campaign.


-Michael Crick to May
Isn’t the reason that you are doing so badly that whenever people ask you about policy, all they get are cliches and platitudes, and we’ve seen the same today. People think there is nothing there. Now, let’s get something straight, shall we? You mentioned £8bn for the health service. You mentioned managing money. Where is the £8bn coming from?


-George Soros predicts five years for Brexit, calls for a multi-track EU and no punishment for UK

-Lord Buckethead has returned

-ITV grabs Ed Balls and Osborne for election night commentary in a challenge to BBC's usual dominance

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-Brian Taylor on Scottish Lib Dems

-Katya Adler on EU been preparing for Brexit

-Simon Jenkins bemoans May's social care loss of nerve

-Patrick Maguire warns N.Ireland MP's may have a big say on future events

-Julia Rampen anti-Tory tactical vote may return in Scotland

-Jonathan Portes not happy with options on offer

-James Forysth on May's troubles, so does George Eaton

-Robert Colvile says polling is very much still in Tories favour and narrative ignores the facts
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Re: UK Politics

Unread postby Dong Zhou » Fri Jun 02, 2017 6:35 pm

-May and Brandon Lewis hint at hitting immigration target with parliament, David Davis doubts they will so May rows back to "will take time"

-Thornberry, Miliband (who really lets rip at weak and spineless May) and Sturgeon not happy at May's failure to rebuke Trump over climate change whereas Macron, Merkel and Paolo Gentiloni did a joint letter, Corbyn calls it a dereliction of duty

-Bernie Sanders backs Corbyn

-Guardian saying FBI consider Farage a person of interest but not as a suspect or under any suspicion, the former UKIP leader doubts it as he has no connections to Russia and says an attack by liberal elite to try to smear him

-Accusations being made at rule breaches in Unite election

-FTSE 100 and FTSE 250 hit further highs before dipping, Greece growing faster then UK at moment

-Ruth Davidson blames Lib Dem's poor campaign for Labour's rise, says she would never use the term Brexit bastards in public

-Press association on likely election times

-Craig Mackinlay charged over election expenses as has Nathan Gray, Mackinlay’s agent, and Marion Little. Tories giving their full support to Mackinlay

-BMG gives SNP 13 point lead but would lose Robinson and Wishart, Ipsi Mori Tory lead down to 5

-Boris clearly getting annoyed about the constant asking about 350 million

-Cairns says Davies was meant to do debate but she he couldn't and Welsh parties were using AM's, felt it was more appropriate Tories sent AM gives backing to Welsh leader

-Farron on LBC refuses to answer about his views on if homosexuality is a sin (more he has answered and just annoyed now at answering about personal religious belief)

-Times speculating Ben Gummer will get Brexit post due to being a close May adviser and a great brain with David Davis getting Foreign Office. Two issues are 1) Boris, 2) Gummer is/was a passionate Remainer

-Caroline Lucas makes passionate defence for free movement

-Sturgeon says SNP would give support on an issue by issue basis to a progressive party

-Sir Cable compares Labour policy to Venezuela

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-Andrew Neill vs Farron saw the two constantly talking over each other with Neill clearly feeling the Lib Dem leader talked too long

-Farage thinks South Thanet has become a UKIP vs Labour fight due to legal issues of Tories, calls May Tories biggest electoral liability

-Ed Balls and Gove make a fun duo on This Week

-Paul Mason raising the health card against May is disgusting while he claims Corbyn has not met with IRA, only Sinn Feinn. Toby Young goes on a good rant about Corbyn's moral compass

-Alan Johnson says Corbyn has realistic chance of winning and he may have been wrong about the Labour leader, May blundered by going early to election, U-turn and avoiding TV debates

-Joan Ryan telling Enfield North members to keep her as Corbyn isn't realistically going to win and she will remain a good independent minded MP

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-Martin Kettle bemoans lack of Brexit vision and debate

-Rhiannon Lucy Cosslett faith restored in Corbyn

-Sarah Smith on Scottish Tory revival
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Re: UK Politics

Unread postby Dong Zhou » Sat Jun 03, 2017 11:31 am

Leaders question time: May went first and did alright, she seems a little forced at first with an awkward smile but seemed to get into it, lots on Brexit and cuts, set up some decent arguments like why social care plans, why public spending is tight, went big on Abbott (though her claim about Abbott wanting to clean the DNA database is a blatant falsehood) some times she missed an opportunity (like taking on that richest benefit most) and wasn't nimble on her feet (I felt at times I could have gone a better route for answers but easy to do from armchair), the North Korea aid question caught her out. I doubt people warmed to her but at least she didn't get mocked. A sense she did far better but telling nurse on lack of payrise there isn't a magic money tree has gone down very badly.

Corbyn next and he started really strongly, passion, a bit of humour, he landed the need to reassure small business, his citing of Sir Stramer handling Brexit (while mentioning his skills as a lawyer) was a good move and was really strong on domestic policy, he really made the case for higher taxes on some for better services for all, had a slight habit of giving the answer he should have second time round (like Sturgeon deal or rise of minimum wage to small business). Then it went wrong: First Ken Livingstone where Corbyn went on a general anti-racism speech but didn't give impression of wanting Livingstone out. Then that issue again: Trident. Trident. Trident. Audience was split with some laughing and even a heckle as he dodged around the "would you press the button" while some backed Corbyn with one viewing anyone who backs Trident as a mass murder supporter. Corbyn really struggled and at one point, didn't answer an audience member (it was more a statement and a difficult one but it looked bad). Got lucky IRA questions were asked badly but Corbyn had lost his rhythm and it took awhile to recover even when back on domestic policy, did really near the end on things like zero hour contracts. He seems to have more passionate supporters then May in audience.

Lots of praise for the audience

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-Guardian back Labour and seem excited at Corbyn's recent performances

-Gardiner says Brexit will make us poorer

-May is a liar song reaches number 4 though mainstream radio won't play it due to election

-Boris says Tories won't raise income tax, Sir Fallon says no income tax rise for higher earners, Hammond and May might not be pleased

-Boris pushes Gwynne and calls him a big girls blouse apparently with the latter suggesting Boris "don't be a pillock"

-Hammond dismisses rumours he will be axed for Rudd while Telegraphs says Sir Fallon is on shortlist to replace him

-Estate agent May & Co complaining as Lib Dems did a spoof advert which has led to the estate agent getting abusive phone calls. Lib Dems have apologized and blamed an "over-enthusiastic volunteer"

-Chairman of the Jewish Labour movement, Jeremy Newmark, fears Corbyn has failed to understand the nature of modern anti-Semitism and has been unable to combat it

-Carwyn Jones says Corbyn turning up and being fleet of foot means he can succeed in Brexit talks

-UUP believe EU status for N.Ireland would be an attempt to break UK union by backdoor

-Grayling says Corbyn's lack of mastery of detail would be a problem with Brexit

-May vows to consult businesses every step of the Brexit way

-Labour accuse Tories of fake news with a edited clip of Corbyn on IRA

-Tom McTague tweet
Corbyn is a living embodiment of adult retraining. He's moved from a rubbish backbencher to a fluent leader of the oppo surging in the polls


-Cameron's tweet a picture of their feet up in bed

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-John Harris believes Corbyn has changed way elections will be done in future

-Iain Watson on future Labour battle

-Daniel Todman warns misreading of WW2 could hurt Brexit

-Patrick Maguire on how Ireland's new Taoiseach Leo Varadkar impacts us
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Re: UK Politics

Unread postby Sun Fin » Sun Jun 04, 2017 7:31 am

We've had another terror attack here in the UK. A white van mounted a curb, hit about 5 people. Three men jumped out armed with knives and started stabbing people. 6 have been confirmed dead and 48 injured. I hope our London scholars are safe, thinking especially of Ranbir and DZ!
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Re: UK Politics

Unread postby Dong Zhou » Sun Jun 04, 2017 8:50 am

I no longer live in London but three terrorist attacks in a short space of time is deeply worrying. Sorry for all the families involved in these horrible moments
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Re: UK Politics

Unread postby Dong Zhou » Sun Jun 04, 2017 3:44 pm

-May says tax plans haven't changed

-Allegations Naz Shah was given anti-Semitic abuse at a hustings as she defended Israel right to exist

-Sturgeon says independence not a magical solution to Scotland's problems, says groupings of countries like EU are key to solving world problems, looking at fast-tracking graduates into teaching role despite union opposition

-Boris and Lavery got heated

-Sunday Express, Sunday Times, Sunday Mail backs Tories, Sunday People urges tactical anti-Tory vote, Sunday Mirror (common touch), Observer (opposed to May's Brexit) back Labour

-Survation gives Tories a 1% lead, Labour are within margins of errors in a few polls now, Comres gives Tories 17 lead

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-Banksy offering free print to people in Bristol North West, Bristol West, North Somerset, Thornbury, Kingswood and Filton constituencies if they vote against Tories but requires a photo of their actual vote on ballot paper, concerns this counts as buying vote, breaking voter secrecy

-IDS says Tories trying to move away from a shopping list style manifesto

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-BBC does political leaders hobbies

-Chris Cook on the changing election battlegrounds
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Re: UK Politics

Unread postby Sun Fin » Sun Jun 04, 2017 4:29 pm

Dong Zhou wrote:I no longer live in London but three terrorist attacks in a short space of time is deeply worrying. Sorry for all the families involved in these horrible moments


Ah glad to hear you're okay. Indeed, to my mind it's more a case of once on person succeeded then others decided to follow suit than ISIS suddenly turning up the gas in gunning for the UK.
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Re: UK Politics

Unread postby Dong Zhou » Mon Jun 05, 2017 6:47 pm

-UKIP don't suspend campaign as normality must continue

-May says enough is enough, too much tolerance of extremism, internet companies must do more, having to defend police cuts, gives backing to Mayor Khan but refuses to mention Trump for awhile (then says Trump is wrong) or answer about reshuffle, says Corbyn's frontbench wanted to cut police funding and oppose intelligence and security bills

-Corbyn says one can't do security on cheap (aka police cuts), would give full authority to police to do whatever is needed, we must tackle Saudi Arabia issue. Then declares May should resign, a statement I suspect it will go down badly with the wider public given the timing and would have been far better building pressure on her and letting others float the idea of her going. Which I think is what he meant to do but put it really badly and is now backtracking/clarifying as fast as he can

-Corbyn and Farron want funding of jihadi groups report published, Farron attacks May's record

-Javid says Muslim communities must do more to tackle extremism

-Apparently Karen Bradley got heated in interview with Piers Morgan

-Election goes ahead

-Trump has a go at Khan for response to London attack because Trump misread Khan's comment. When this is pointed out, says Khan is making excuses and mainstream media are buying it

-Nuttall calls for review of mosque funding and 20,000 more officers, look at return to control orders and tagging, backs Prevent, look at Saudi's funding

-Jonathan Bartley calls for Prevent to be scrapped, arms embargo for Saudi's

-Thornberry says May went political too early

-Leanne Wood accuses May of being soft on extremists, wants top rate of tax up to 50p, a very hard Brexit could lead to independence referendum

-Car sales fall 8% but given general election, nobody too concerned

-ICM gives Tories 11 lead, Youguv gives 305 Tory seats ie 12 short of majority

-Archbishop Welby says faith leaders must do more, going "nothing to do with Islam" isn't helping, bemoans lack of religious literacy including among intelligence services, abuse of Muslims helps terrorists. Muslim Council of Britain say May is right to say enough is enough and they must have difficult conversations and must be a grassroots campaign

-Sadiq Khan remarks some state visits are less welcome then others and police need more budget, furious terrorists are trying to use his faith to justify their crimes

-French Foreign Minister Jean-Yves Le Drian has visited UK

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-Steve Hilton says May should resign given terror threat rose when home secretary

-Nicky Morgan attacks Corbyn

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-Kuessenberg on how London attacks may play into our election and our politics, similarly James Lansdale and Dejevsky

-D'Ancona backs May's security speech

-Steve Rosenburg on Russian attitude to UK election

-Grice on Labour handing the security battle

-Left-wing Joe Gill senses his first victory
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