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Re: UK Politics

Unread postby Dong Zhou » Sun Oct 22, 2017 6:29 pm

-Sir Starmer says Labour will ally with Tory rebels on Brexit bill, wants six changes: final say on deal for Commons, transition period added to bill, change to Henry VIII powers, guarantees certain rights won't be watered down, concessions to devolved administrations, EU charter of fundamental rights into UK law

-Javid launches review into house buying process, seeking to stop gazumping and speed up process

-SNP want a Arctic Ambassador (ideally Scottish)

-Lord Prescott on Lords reform

-Leanne Wood tells her critics to stop briefing against her and face her

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-Rawnsley on nudge theory

-Henry Hill not pleased with government housing plans

-Rentoul wants Ruth Davidson as May's successor
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Re: UK Politics

Unread postby Dong Zhou » Mon Oct 23, 2017 6:13 pm

-Javid wants to borrow to fund housing (something he advocated when he ran for leadership)

-Thronberry warns we are heading for no deal

-Spanish Foreign Minister Alfonso Dastis said expats would be allowed to continue living in Spain even if there is no Brexit deal

-Again May and Junker dinner leaks to German press (translated by Nina Schick): May pleaded for help as she has no room to manoeuvre at home (in fairness this was probably a good strategy but very damaging when leaked) due to going for transition phase and she needed EU to create space for her (article implies apparently that EU did so to ensure Boris couldn't replace May), Juncker feels May looks scared and dejected but some of the description is ungentlemanly, Eu accepts N.Ireland can't be solved till phase 2. Downing Street not bothering to deny the story, the Commission says this story is unhelpful and deny Junker commented on May's tired appearance but doesn't deny general thrust but later Juncker makes a full denial and says May did not beg or look tired

-Boris says Iran deal still holds, N.Korea needs China to apply econimic pressure, says time for EU to make a move on Brexit and carefully avoids contradicting May, says west needs to soul search on how it failed to use fall of communism to rebuild relations with Russia, on his Russian ancestry "Before I became foreign secretary, I strategically placed my ancestors around the world."

-Corbyn asks Trickett to take charge in preparing for government, says Brexit talks are at an impasse, EU figures should stop briefing inflated figures about what UK might have to pay

-MEP's tell Rudd it would be illegal to create a register of EU nationals (not all agree with the MEP's claims)

-Bercow furious that government not yet set up Commons liaison committee, European scrutiny committee and the intelligence and security committee and slams Tory MP's Nusrat Ghani and
Amanda Milling calls for emergency debate on Clive Lewis as absurd and inappropriate but grants one on Universal Credit

-Concerns in the City about the high number of profit warnings (75 this quarter) and the state of the car industry

-May says final bill will depend on type of trade deal, assures MP's that transition will be time limited, no transitional deal agreed till final deal is agreed (this will alarm the business community), firmly rules out a second referendum as it would be telling the public they voted wrong the first time, seasonal agricultural permits may be brought back

-Barnier to meet the major UK mayors

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-Institute of Directors, CBI, British Chambers of Commerce, the Federation of Small Businesses, and the EEF manufacturing body say time is running out for a transition deal

-Rory Stewart says most British IS fighters will have to die

-Mayor Khan suggests second referendum if parliament rejects Brexit deal

-Henry Bolton says he may need to sell his home as he is unpaid as UKIP leader

-Ken Clarke wants cross party work on transition deal to try to keep the hard core Brexiteers from sabotaging it

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-Tim Montgomerie says May needs more radical cabinet like Halfon and should sack Hammond

-Rentoul on price cap

-Chris Bowlby on state of Palace of Westminster

-Fraser Nelson accuses EU of twitter trolling the UK

-Trevor Kavanhagh (sun) urges May to show she is willing to go for no detail
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Re: UK Politics

Unread postby Dong Zhou » Tue Oct 24, 2017 6:35 pm

- A sense May has not even discussed trade aspects of Brexit with her cabinet

-Bercow does Scottish accent to call SNP MP. Not a great idea

- Information Commissioner's Office says elements of Tories use of Neath callcentre crossed the line but not enough to take further action

-Government to fund travel costs for poorer women in N.Ireland seeking abortion

-Welsh Government introduce minimum price for selling alcohol

-Barnier says trade deal will take longer then Brexit deal, thinks it will look like Canada deal

-President Tusk says EU must remain united and up to UK how to ends including no Brexit

-Juncker says EU are not hostile to UK and wants deal

-Macron says Uk must come up with answers to Ireland problem

-Universities furious as whip Chris Heaton-Harris writes to all of them demanding to know what they are teaching about Brexit and list of all lecturers touching the subject. Government doesn't sack him but does disown his plan

-Culture Committee asking Facebook for information on Russian related activity for the election/EU referendum

-David Mundell says there will be indepth discussion with Scottish government about Withdrawal Bill

-Lords defeat government and demand unsolicited calls to be outlawed where harm to consumers had been identified+ a new financial guidance body, a responsibility for consumer protection.

-Jared O'Mara has quit the Commons equality committee over online homophobic and misogynistic comments made 15 years ago, has apologized to Labour MP's then a public apology, spoke with Michael Segalov which Labour was content with under "he must learn" and I think most were willing to keep an eye on but accept now. However allegations have emerged of more recent comments of misogynistic nature, ones he denies, so Labour investigating but not yet suspended whip, I get the slight feeling there is a sense a lot of those on left and in Labour would be demanding a bit more then that if it was a Tory

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-Hayes interested in Goodman's suggestion to look at France at putting electric charging in all public spaces and requiring it in new builds

-Mhairi Black attacks Douglas Ross for missing Universal Credit as showing he didn't care and preferred to rub shoulders with celebrities. Black has the worst voting record in the Commons since election, Ross was doing his other job so what is her excuse?

-Eddie Izzard to stand again for Labour National Executive Committee

-Stephen Kinnock calls for government to go over handling of Brexit

-Rachel Sylvester says description allegedly used by Juncker about May tallies with what she has been told by others

-ICM poll has 45% believing we won't get a good deal on Brexit with 30% believing we will, 62% would not feel good at no deal, 46% feel it will damage economy though 38% feel it will make no difference either way on their own finances, a narrow 38% fear it will impact British life

-Richard Leonard says he has served loyally for Scottish Labour under all sorts of leaders and he opposed Militant

-John Mann unhappy at lack of women in Bank of England's top roles

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-Bush says people haven't come to terms with reality of trade

-Douglas Fraser on Irish view of Brexit and view from Brussels

-Owen Jones on Jared O'Mara and need to allow young to make a journey

-Matthew Norman drops the satire and is sorry for May, argues she should be allowed to step down

-Ben Smith says land rather then money is the problem in housing crises
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Re: UK Politics

Unread postby Dong Zhou » Wed Oct 25, 2017 6:40 pm

PMQ's: Corbyn goes on Universal Credit vote with simple "will you listen to house", May tries to dodge around it and give a general defence of Universal Credit rollout. Corbyn tone wrong as he talks of dissatisfaction, accuses Tory MP's of lacking courage of convictions but quotes Tory AM comments, May does general defence and attacks Labour's welfare record rather then deal with the issue (Labour backs Universal Credit so...), Corbyn comes with firm defence of Labour's record on welfare before using IDS resignation statement against May. The PM says she has answered question repeatedly so goes back onto Labour this time on tax credits. Corbyn defends tax credits then on councils having to pick up the tab of Universal Credit mistakes, May addresses rent arrears concern buy pointing to record reducing arrears and saying even more is being done but Corbyn points out privately renting people can be evicted then low minimum wage which breaks previous promise. May says Labour's tax credit subsidised low paying employees, Corbyn goes on living wage and then confusion on Brexit, May goes on strong economy.

Better by May with some decent attempts at traps (nimbly avoided by Corbyn) and decent defence of Universal Credit but is going after Labour government a wise tactic? She is still avoiding questions and Corbyn has been increasingly good at finding the right questions as he did till near the end of this one, Corbyn victory. Blackford goes on migration being key for economy but May points out people want control, Blackford goes on American couple who have brought money to local economy but face deportation due to retrospective changes to rules, May arranges meeting and defends immigration rules. Morgan had a clever little shot at O'Mara

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-Hammond distances himself from Javid's call for borrowing to fund housing

-Jared O'Mara suspended due to recent allegations, Lucy Powell had called for it while Justine Greening wonders how Labour selected him twice and plenty of journalists pointing out O'Mara has not been active in Commons

-Max Hill QC, the terror laws watchdog, warns current plans risk criminalising thought and political desire in recent years has trumped need, authorities need to do more to reach out to Muslim community.

-Science and technology committee investing e-cigarettes

-Corbyn to be on Googlebox for charity

-BBC complaints unit says it should have challenged Lord Lawson more on his views on climate change on Today program

-David Davis expects us to still have same aces as single market, likely to start under ECJ but will move away from it, May is right that transition only gets agreed when full deal is agreed but expects transition agreement in early 2018 and final deal at last minute (says it will be exciting last few hours but Sir Stramer and others say EU parliament need to vote on it mean it won't go down to last minute), trade deal can be done within 12 months and will have to be ratified by all EU parliaments. EU may try to impose conditions at last minute, transition phase going beyond two years may mean higher price for UK, legally only owe EU for one year, not looking for Canada deal, parliament's Brexit vote could be after Brexit. Economic benefits of a trade deal with the EU could outweigh the cost of extra payments equivalent to roughly 1% of GDP, he likes Verhofstadt

-Growth at a better then expected 0.4% with services and manufacturing both growing but building sector in recession. Still way behind most of the G20

-May announces cap on housing benefit will not apply to supported housing.

-A furious number 10 says they intend to give vote before Brexit day and Davies was answering hypothetical questions (which they are not happy about). Bercow hints he would look favourably at amendment asking for vote on final Brexit deal before Brexit day, Brexit department says it is their intention to do so

-David Lidington says prison should be last resort and wants numbers to come down but won't give arbitrary number

-Tories abstain on social care opposition day motion

-Sir Fallon warns criticizing Saudi Arabia is rather a problem for arm sales like Typhoon sales they are trying to get

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-Charlie Elphicke wants a billion set aside for upgrading border and custom systems in case of no deal

-Michael Bloomberg says Brexit is second stupidest (Trump first) any country has ever done, the channel protects us from immigration and he has employees who don't want to come to US or UK due to Trump/Brexit, would have considered another place for European HQ had he foreseen Brexit

-Hans-Olaf Henkel, a German MEP from the Conservatives and Reformists Group in the European Parliament, says EU needs to show British attitudes of fairness on Brexit

-Rees-Mogg calls Carney an enemy of Brexit

-Sir Ivan Rogers, the former British ambassador to the EU, says EU move improved after Florence speech but EU annoyed at lack of specifics EU won't move till UK offers more cash, US would want concessions on agriculture for trade deal, Irish think UK is only proposing "wheezes" on border issue, no deal would really be a series of mini deals on many subjects and press should be concentrating on what EU would do in a no deal situation. Some in Eu see UK wish for “Canada +++” as fantasy, phase 2 won't be trade talks but future relationship with trade starting after Brexit, Ireland would be badly hurt by no deal

- Jon Thompson, chief executive of HM Revenue and Customs, that preparation for “no deal” Brexit could cost them £400m, and require the recruitment of up to 5,000 extra staff. Warns custom changes will only be ready two months before Brexit and there are four possible things that could delay that

-Dominic Grieve says Brexit deal without Westminster vote would be subject to major legal problems, both sides might need to extend deadline for votes

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-Marie le Contesays O'Mara situation raises questions at how we handle past social media mistakes of future MP's

-Bush says Corbyn is quicker to deal with scandal

-Katy Balls furious at O'Mara and some of the left's hypocrisy

-Hardman on social care debate

-Sonia Sodha on Oxbridge diversity or lack of

-Peter Tutykhin urges Labour to drop pledge to scrap tuition fees

-James Frayne urges government to concentrate on health

-Martin Kettle on Davis error
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Re: UK Politics

Unread postby Dong Zhou » Thu Oct 26, 2017 6:04 pm

-Accusations Labour whips knew about O'Mara behaviour before the story broke and puzzlement as to how he got selected twice

-Work and Pensions Select Committee says Universal Credit wait times should be one month at most

-Rumours Ian Blackfords PMQ performances are not going down well with SNP MP's who miss Angus Robertson

-Welsh Government looking at regional visa's

-Car production shrank 4.1% with domestic demand collapsing by 14.2%, gender pay gap shrinks to 9% which is lowest in two decades, CBi survey has retail rounding at 36% loss (15% turned profit, 50% had a loss), a decline not seen since we were in recession

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-Laura Pidcock getting flak for going to Venice during Universal Credit vote (booked before election and given permission by whips but her "a birthday trip" when birthday was during August recess and her tweets suggesting she was there +Douglas Ross row has led to this being flagged up)

-Philip Davies says Heaton-Harris has rumbled universities and their left-wing ways

-Richard Graham wants ban on driving instructors sleeping with their clients

-Chris Williamson argues centre has shifted to Corbyn economics

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-Tom Goodenough says fuss on Davis comments is an overreaction

-Bush says both sides of Labour to blame for selection of O'Mara and Brexiteers must allow for possibility academics are right that Brexit is going to be a disaster

-Simon Jenkins says Remainers should stop complaining and help define a soft Brexit

-Andrew Lilico argues belief wages are falling is due to misleading statistics

-Hardman warns Tories to learn from Labour's embarrassment over Douglas Ross/Piddock and not attack O'Mara before it blows back on them
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Re: UK Politics

Unread postby Sun Fin » Thu Oct 26, 2017 7:24 pm

Dong Zhou wrote:
-Jo Johnson warns Universities they face penalty if they allow people to be no platformed


Please say this is being extended to SU’s too?

Dong Zhou wrote:
-Katy Balls furious at O'Mara and some of the left's hypocrisy


A great article, I feel like this hypocrisy is often a blind spot for Labour and the left generally.
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Re: UK Politics

Unread postby Dong Zhou » Fri Oct 27, 2017 4:46 pm

Sun Fin wrote:
Dong Zhou wrote:
-Jo Johnson warns Universities they face penalty if they allow people to be no platformed


Please say this is being extended to SU’s too?

Dong Zhou wrote:
-Katy Balls furious at O'Mara and some of the left's hypocrisy


A great article, I feel like this hypocrisy is often a blind spot for Labour and the left generally.


Alas he may be rather busy explaining to his MP's that universities are not meant to be mouth pieces of MP's or whip their students into following the holy cause

It is disturbing how easy some admit they would demand harsher punishment for Tory MP's if they did the same

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-Rumours Tory whips have drawn up a "letch list" of MP's to keep an eye on

-Mail asking people to email proof of anti-Brexit bias among universities

-Commons Justice Committee warns rules on disclosing crimes committed in childhood in England and Walesare highly inappropriate, breach human rights and damage chance of them getting jobs as adults

-Government considered setting up an internal warning system to monitor and react to decisions made by Trump

-ONS expects population to surpass 70 million in 2029 which is two years later then they had thought, Hollobone calls for immigration crackdown

-John Ashmore talks to Lizz Truss

-One Labour councillor on her experiences in Labour's handling of sexual harassment claims

-Baroness Anelay resigns from Brexit department after few months and 20 years of able frontbench service, injuries during helicopter accident in 2015 have taken their toll. Her resignation statement is optimistic about the future

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-Tom Tugendhat suggests humour is not a good idea from Foreign Office Minister, values must come before pure economics in foreign affairs, would love to be foreign secretary, defence secretary or PM someday, party needs to lead rather then manage during Brexit, government needs to to work out where to prioritise it's consulates. Sebastian Whale with a profile and interview of select committee chair

-One Corbynite is outraged that MP's turn up to Labour Party Irish Society executive vote held in Westminster and says they will be axed for turning up and voting.

-John Mann threatening to expose an MP sent home from delegation for inappropriate behaviour

-Sarwar emails about his redistribution plan: “It is a bold proposal rooted in our guiding principle that we should redistribute wealth from the many to the few.”

-Barnier adviser Stefaan De Rynck says EU preparing for no deal but we are close to phase 2 if UK can just bring guidelines for deciding divorce bill

-Robert Orchard interviews retiring Baroness Trumpington, Sebastian Whale interviews interviews Shadow Brexit minister Matthew Pennycook

-David Davies (not the minister) says Heaton-Harris should have gone further and he left one academic event as he didn't want a lecture from Lord Kinnock about freedom of speech, universities should have more important things to do then bellyaching about Brexit, questions value of some courses

-Mayor Khan on London housing

-Umunna with a long article on our place in the world post Brexit

-Some unhappy at Bob Blackman hosting Tapan Ghosh events

-Darren Jones wars painted nails to back Avon and Somerset police officers modern slavery awareness campaign

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-Hardman on May needing to do more on mental health

-D'Arcy on delays in repairing Westminster

-Solomon Hughes defends Ian Lavrey's record as NUM head
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Re: UK Politics

Unread postby Dong Zhou » Sat Oct 28, 2017 12:18 pm

-Government backs Spain and refuses to recognize Catatonia, SNP says it understand and respects what Catalonia are doing but both sides need dialogue+direct rule is wrong and EU should get involved, Thornberry calls for dialogue as few want direct rule or independence

-Boris says Poles in UK are loved and EU citizens rights are guaranteed

-Females in parliament have a what'sapp group too help warn them of certain men

-Corbyn says there must be zero tolerance in Westminster for those who abuse or harass women, Downing Street says they are concerned at the stories floating around

-Alexander Stubb, vice president of the European Investment Bank and former Finland PM (married to Brit), says UK won't be fully repaid till 2054 and calls Brexit a travesty but he will try to ease the damage to UK.

-Lord Callanan moved from transport to Brexit department meaning no female in Brexit or trade teams, a former MEP who led Tories in Brussels and was well respected.

-Scotland Office minister Lord Duncan says government hoping to leave the EU Common Agricultural Policy in March 2019

-Sturgeon calls for clarity on transition period

-Head of civil service Sir Jeremy Heywood fighting cancer

-D'Arcy's week ahead

-Media concerned again at how may staff and ministers the Brexit department seems to lose

-Douglas Ross will not ref when parliament is sitting which includes world cup

-Lord Adonis questions Baroness Anelay reasons for leaving (I don't think he should really be judging someone's health, yes injuries gained a long time ago but things can deteriorate) and warns Lord Callanan lacks experience to bring through legislation

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-Anoosh Chakelian on sexual harassment in Westminster

-Forsyth (sun) Tories must make positive case on values, Barnier is not a ref, Leadsom ideas

-Rentoul on David Davis

-Jamie Sweeney says Corbyn has modernised the Labour left
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Re: UK Politics

Unread postby Dong Zhou » Sun Oct 29, 2017 7:19 pm

-Abbott interesting about sexual harassment on Marr show, gets slightly wary when asked to talk about McDonnell or others on left though but refuses to attack Tories for campaign on her when Marr tried to get her to claim it was racist.

-May seeking Bercow's advice on how parliament and government should handle sexual harassment

-Greening says anybody sexually harassed in Westminster should contact police

-Corbyn says Labour reformed their procedures in July but more must be done, urges those who have been sexually harassed within party to use the procedures, misogyny and sexism is a wide spread problem in society

-Hollyrood to apologize to people convicted for homosexual offences

-Gove being hammered for joking on Today program (John Humphreys is the presenter) "Sometimes, I think coming into the studio with you John is a bit like going into Harvey Weinstein's bedroom." then adding "You just hope you emerge with your dignity intact.". Lord Kinnock saying " "John goes way past groping." (I have seen one objection to it as a minor part of anger towards Gove) on the other hand is apparently ok which I don't understand

-Creagh wants MOT loophole on pollution filters to be closed

-Trade Minister Mark Garnier admits to using... colourful language and asking his secretary to buy adult toys, he has said he did say/do those things as part of a joke between the two of them but others taking a dimmer view. Cabinet Office investigating

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-John Mann suggests parliament has a sexual harassment tsar

-Jess Philips says it is amazing how "kill Thatcher", "lynch Vetch" always seems to be about women

-Shapps (sun) on path he wants Tories to take

-Sarah Champion calls for a change in Westminster culture

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-Nick Cohen bemoans lack of heroes at the top to fight Brexit

-Catherine Bennett not happy Labour forgave O'Mara due to youth (while attacking Tories for things they did in youth

-Rentoul on how successful Brexit might change politics
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Re: UK Politics

Unread postby Sun Fin » Mon Oct 30, 2017 8:10 am

Dong Zhou wrote:-Gove being hammered for joking on Today program (John Humphreys is the presenter) "Sometimes, I think coming into the studio with you John is a bit like going into Harvey Weinstein's bedroom." then adding "You just hope you emerge with your dignity intact.". Lord Kinnock saying " "John goes way past groping." (I have seen one objection to it as a minor part of anger towards Gove) on the other hand is apparently ok which I don't understand


It' very simple, St Kinnock is Labour and therefore can't do any wrong. :roll:
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