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Re: Favorite Historical Samurai

Unread postPosted: Tue Jun 22, 2010 1:40 am
by dymlos timbre
Well i shouldnt have said that because yes it did change alot, it made way to the age of massed infantry formations, if you notice after nobunaga most diamyo switched to mass deploys of cheap ashigaru and long pikes (more so than they already did) and many mounted samurai actually dismounted to fight. But as for nagashino only about 1000 to 1500 guns were used, and what historical sites are these? because i get everything from japanese BOOKS account the era, there is a site just like this dedicated to sengoku era talk on http://www.samuraiarchives.com we talked about this exact issue and many there will point you in the direction im trying to get at.

Re: Favorite Historical Samurai

Unread postPosted: Tue Jun 22, 2010 11:47 am
by Zappa
Pierre Beauregard wrote:how about Kobayakawa Hidekane he was loyal family men and was one of the great leaders in the korean campaign and one of the closes advicers and friend of Hideyoshi.


Kobayakawa was the Mitsuhide Akechi of the pre Hideyoshi Era, the Clan betrayed their Lord at Sekigahara alongside with the Mori.[/quote]


no dude he was nowhere near the same as akechi. the one im talking about whats a great thinker and follow u should read before u post lol[/quote]

Oh Im sorry then I read Hideaki Kobayakawa not Hidekane Kobayakawa :lol:
Your right then, he was a great leader in the korean campaign.

Re: Favorite Historical Samurai

Unread postPosted: Fri Dec 03, 2010 7:48 pm
by Tiger of Kai
dymlos timbre wrote:Well i shouldnt have said that because yes it did change alot, it made way to the age of massed infantry formations, if you notice after nobunaga most diamyo switched to mass deploys of cheap ashigaru and long pikes (more so than they already did) and many mounted samurai actually dismounted to fight. But as for nagashino only about 1000 to 1500 guns were used, and what historical sites are these? because i get everything from japanese BOOKS account the era, there is a site just like this dedicated to sengoku era talk on http://www.samuraiarchives.com we talked about this exact issue and many there will point you in the direction im trying to get at.


Hey dymios! Are you a member over at the citadel? I don't recognize the name....

Anyway, my favorite Samurai is Takeda Shingen. Hence my username.

Re: Favorite Historical Samurai

Unread postPosted: Fri Dec 03, 2010 7:59 pm
by dymlos timbre
yea i lingered around on there a while my screen name for it escapes me its been a while. not many go there anymore its sad =[ we get a post once in a few weeks.Are you knew to kongming? if so then welcome and please introduce yourself in the "Introduce yourslef/tell us a bit about you" Topic!!!

Re: Favorite Historical Samurai

Unread postPosted: Fri Dec 03, 2010 8:01 pm
by Tiger of Kai
Yep, I'm a noob. I already posted a little tidbit in the intro thread. I know what you mean about SA. I barely ever log on over there anymore either.

Re: Favorite Historical Samurai

Unread postPosted: Fri Dec 03, 2010 8:16 pm
by dymlos timbre
Hm i to first liked takeda shingen when i first started getting into reading about the era, but the more and more i when in it the more i found nobunaga more interesting and the more he appealed to me.

Re: Favorite Historical Samurai

Unread postPosted: Fri Dec 03, 2010 8:17 pm
by Zhuanyong
My favorite samurai of the period would be --

Miyamoto Musashi, Mr. Go Rin No Sho himself -- he was the master of the Niten-ryu technique and undefeated. His famous duel with Sasaki Kojiro and many others regarding him beating people to death with bokken is classic. I read his book and also put my own analyzation on his methods in how you can possibly apply to everyday life in this thread.

Ii Naomasa, this guy and his red armor -- I even hate fighting him on Samurai Warriors and often recruit him into my army on Empires. He was successful at Sekigahara.

I've also been a fan of the Yagyu and Sanada clans.

Re: Favorite Historical Samurai

Unread postPosted: Fri Dec 03, 2010 8:23 pm
by Tiger of Kai
dymlos timbre wrote:Hm i to first liked takeda shingen when i first started getting into reading about the era, but the more and more i when in it the more i found nobunaga more interesting and the more he appealed to me.


I'll admit, Nobunaga's story is indeed more interesting than Shingen's, but the Tiger's still my favorite. :wink:

Re: Favorite Historical Samurai

Unread postPosted: Fri Dec 03, 2010 8:27 pm
by dymlos timbre
Indeed the tiger is always appealing specially his fierce rivalry/freindship with Kenshin.

my biggest complaint with the sengoku era is the portrayal of nobunaga being evil -_- he was actually a good person when he wasnt under one of his mood swings.

Re: Favorite Historical Samurai

Unread postPosted: Fri Dec 03, 2010 8:32 pm
by Tiger of Kai
Zhuanyong wrote:Li Naomasa, this guy and his red armor -- I even hate fighting him on Samurai Warriors and often recruit him into my army on Empires. He was successful at Sekigahara.

I've also been a fan of the Yagyu and Sanada clans.


II Naomasa is one of my favorites as well. Although, he wasn't the first to adopt the all-red armor look, he was definitely the most famous for it! Sanada Masayuki is another one I admire. He's often overlooked in favor of Yukimura, but I would argue he was >Yukimura.