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Re: Favorite Historical Samurai

Unread postPosted: Wed Nov 12, 2008 4:34 am
by dymlos timbre
sanada nobushige
takeda shingen
tada mitsuyori
hara toratane
yamamoto kansuke
nobunaga oda
toshie meada
tadakatsu honda
uesugi kenshin
so many great men in that era although uesugi kenshin and takeda shingen stand out the most to me i beleive they were ahead of nobunaga but tragedy tore them apart.

Re: Favorite Historical Samurai

Unread postPosted: Fri Nov 21, 2008 8:04 pm
by Shikanosuke
oda nobunaga, for his ambitious plans
musashi, for obvious cliche reasons.
shikanosuke, for his sacrifice.
and never mitsuhide, for his treachery.

Re: Favorite Historical Samurai

Unread postPosted: Fri Nov 21, 2008 10:24 pm
by Antiochus
I always saw Mitsuhide as a conflicted character who had a love/hate relationship with his lord, and it always stopped me from hating him outright. It is a fact that Nobunaga's temper had the power to anger a few people.

Re: Favorite Historical Samurai

Unread postPosted: Sat Nov 22, 2008 1:30 am
by Shikanosuke
Antiochus wrote:I always saw Mitsuhide as a conflicted character who had a love/hate relationship with his lord, and it always stopped me from hating him outright. It is a fact that Nobunaga's temper had the power to anger a few people.


True, but I'm not sure being upset over an angry temper exempts you from fault when you try to kill your lord.

Re: Favorite Historical Samurai

Unread postPosted: Sat Nov 22, 2008 1:31 am
by crosswindcrab
Maeda Keji/Toshimasu/wahtever - I got a thing for the lesser known "formation breaker" kinda guys.
Gamo Ujistao - Another one of those guys that died too early. For some reason or another I just like him.
Uesugi Kenshin - what else needs to be said about this guy?
Yamanaka Shikanosuke - "The Crescent Moon Samurai" Kept on fighting way after hisl ords were defeated. Actually killed an opponent in a one on one duel.

Re: Favorite Historical Samurai

Unread postPosted: Sat Nov 22, 2008 9:51 am
by Antiochus
Shikanosuke wrote:
True, but I'm not sure being upset over an angry temper exempts you from fault when you try to kill your lord.


Indeed :lol: , but Nobunaga is a man who was betrayed often. Shibata Katsuie, Araki Murashige and Akechi Mitsuhide all betrayed Nobunaga at a certain point. I'm not trying to excuse Mitsuhide. I just always pitied him.

Re: Favorite Historical Samurai

Unread postPosted: Sat Nov 22, 2008 2:11 pm
by crosswindcrab
^
Howed 'ol Devil Shibata betray Nobunaga? I'm a bit curious as I thought that he was one of the more loyal retainers.

Re: Favorite Historical Samurai

Unread postPosted: Mon Nov 24, 2008 2:11 pm
by Antiochus
When Nobunaga inherited his father's fief, he was unpopular with his highest retainers, including Shibata Katsuie and Hayashi Michikatsu. They eventually tried a coup to remplace Nobunaga with his younger brother, Nobuyuki. Nobunaga surprised everyone by foiling the coup and executing his brother but forgave his retainers.

Re: Favorite Historical Samurai

Unread postPosted: Tue Nov 25, 2008 1:26 am
by crosswindcrab
Heh. I forgot about that. The first time I ever saw any reference to that was while playing Kessen 3, which made me look it up later.
That would certainly be a way to ensure a vassals loyalty.

Re: Favorite Historical Samurai

Unread postPosted: Thu Dec 11, 2008 6:47 am
by PhoenixRising
Hmmm.....

Oda Nobunaga for his cunning and brave.
Sanada Yukimura for his loyality fighting till he last breath.
The dynamic duo, Uesugi Kenshin and Takeda Shingen for their ability in commanding army.