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Unread postby Guan Yunchang » Tue Sep 13, 2005 7:16 pm

Shield of Rohan wrote:For China and Taiwan, Guan Yu most certainly deserves mention.


I'd like to agree with that, or even Liu Bei as hero. But the truth is that in a country that has changed governments that much you can't really have a meaningful hero. The closest thing to them might be Mao Zedong, but he was a prick.
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Unread postby Lady Wu » Tue Sep 13, 2005 8:17 pm

The Comic Book Hero wrote:Canada - I'm thinking Terry Fox...but I dunno...comments any of ye Canadians??

I can't believe you didn't think of Wayne Gretzky.

Other possibilities: Pierre Trudeau? Louis Riel?? Sir John A. should get honourable mention for envisioning the nation a mari usque ad mare, even though he doesn't really score any other point for heroism, in my book.
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Unread postby redlion » Tue Sep 13, 2005 9:11 pm

Japan- Oda Nobunaga
US- Franklin D Rossevelt
Canada- Jim Carey
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Unread postby Mike » Tue Sep 13, 2005 11:23 pm

Lady Wu wrote:I can't believe you didn't think of Wayne Gretzky.

Pish...it's all about Mario Lemiuex!! :wink:
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Unread postby KingofWei&Wu » Tue Sep 13, 2005 11:58 pm

The Comic Book Hero wrote:Canada - I'm thinking Terry Fox...but I dunno...comments any of ye Canadians??


No; Geddy Lee! :P \m/

Alexander Nevsky would be my choice of a Russian national hero, far and above Lenin.

That's right! I forgot about him. I guess I wasn't thinking back far enough.
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Unread postby Shield of Rohan » Wed Sep 14, 2005 12:07 am

redlion wrote:
US- Franklin D Rossevelt


FDR? What makes you put him ? I easily prefer his relative Teddy, who was hard-working, adventurous, loved natural splendor, attacked corrupt business practices, championed "big stick" diplomacy, and was an all around great guy and among the best Republican presidents IMO. To me, all that definitely could be considered the attributes of an American hero.
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Unread postby SYL » Wed Sep 14, 2005 12:15 am

I sense some partisan bias here, if you won't mind my saying so. ;) Teddy was good, but FDR had so much more to deal with. Like it or not, his policies lifted America out of the Depression, and then he went on and guided them through World War Two, laying many of the foundations for a new world order, good and bad. The America we have today, and much of the world besides, is very much still FDR's legacy.

Call me naive, but I rate that higher than being a hunter and a "swell guy".

I think we can all agree they were both miles better than Woodrow Wilson, though. 8-)
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Unread postby urbanterrorist » Wed Sep 14, 2005 12:24 am

Japan- Oda Nobunaga


Japan may consider him a hero but Korea has some different thoughts about this ambitious samurai.

China- Huang Fei Hong (tell me if this is the correct spelling)
Korea- King Sejong
Germany- Frederick Barbarossa
Poland- Pope John Paul the II
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Unread postby redlion » Wed Sep 14, 2005 12:46 am

I'm surprised no ones commented on the Jim Carey comment (Canada Sucks) But FDR did do alot that hes not really celebrated for. Like aiding the allies against the Nazis and the great depression to name a few. And I think Nobunaga is JAPAN'S national hero, not koreas.
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Unread postby Mike » Wed Sep 14, 2005 12:51 am

urbanterrorist wrote:China- Huang Fei Hong (tell me if this is the correct spelling)

Excellent. Wong Fei Hong is truly a cult classic. My favorite version of him on the movie screen would be with Jet Li.

redlion wrote:And I think Nobunaga is JAPAN'S national hero, not koreas.

urbanterrorist meant that the Koreans view Nobunaga differently from the Japanese.
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