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Unread postby Stedfel » Wed Jul 28, 2004 6:05 am

Kuan P'ing wrote:So killing an officer in three bouts would be extremely impressive, but fighting 100 bouts would be like even?


Depends. If you were fighting Lu Bu and killed him in 3 bouts would be extremely impressive, on the other hand, if you were fighting Wang Lang and killed him in 3 bouts, it would be more like, "Hey, you killed Wang Lang, good job!" and that would be the end of it. Now onto 100. Using differint and same comparisons, say you defeat Zhang Fei in 100 bouts, you would be cheered, recieve a reward, promoted, and such. If you killed Wang Land in 100 bouts, you'd be laughed off the field.
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Unread postby White Horse General » Wed Jul 28, 2004 7:52 pm

Stedfel wrote:
Kuan P'ing wrote:So killing an officer in three bouts would be extremely impressive, but fighting 100 bouts would be like even?


Depends. If you were fighting Lu Bu and killed him in 3 bouts would be extremely impressive, on the other hand, if you were fighting Wang Lang and killed him in 3 bouts, it would be more like, "Hey, you killed Wang Lang, good job!" and that would be the end of it. Now onto 100. Using differint and same comparisons, say you defeat Zhang Fei in 100 bouts, you would be cheered, recieve a reward, promoted, and such. If you killed Wang Land in 100 bouts, you'd be laughed off the field.


I may be wrong, but I hear Wang Lang has a mean left hook, rivaled only by Mother Dong :lol:

To kill Lu Bu in three bouts would be simply shocking, I doubt anyone would believe it right off even if they saw it happen.
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Unread postby Stedfel » Wed Jul 28, 2004 9:35 pm

White Horse General wrote:
Stedfel wrote:
Kuan P'ing wrote:So killing an officer in three bouts would be extremely impressive, but fighting 100 bouts would be like even?


Depends. If you were fighting Lu Bu and killed him in 3 bouts would be extremely impressive, on the other hand, if you were fighting Wang Lang and killed him in 3 bouts, it would be more like, "Hey, you killed Wang Lang, good job!" and that would be the end of it. Now onto 100. Using differint and same comparisons, say you defeat Zhang Fei in 100 bouts, you would be cheered, recieve a reward, promoted, and such. If you killed Wang Land in 100 bouts, you'd be laughed off the field.


I may be wrong, but I hear Wang Lang has a mean left hook, rivaled only by Mother Dong :lol:

To kill Lu Bu in three bouts would be simply shocking, I doubt anyone would believe it right off even if they saw it happen.


Yes, Mother Dong was quite fearsome. :lol:

I was just using it as an example, using two characters known for there physical prowess, and a man who was shamed to death.
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Unread postby Kuan P'ing » Thu Jul 29, 2004 7:13 am

To kill Lu Bu in three bouts would be simply shocking, I doubt anyone would believe it right off even if they saw it happen.[/quote]

Yeah they'd be like "he's faking it" or "Are you sure that's Lu Bu?" :lol: :lol:
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Unread postby Stedfel » Thu Jul 29, 2004 7:14 am

Kuan P'ing wrote:
To kill Lu Bu in three bouts would be simply shocking, I doubt anyone would believe it right off even if they saw it happen.


Yeah they'd be like "he's faking it" or "Are you sure that's Lu Bu?" :lol: :lol:


God, I'm just using it as an example. Can't you people understand an example?
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Unread postby Six_and_Up » Thu Jul 29, 2004 11:28 am

To those who think duels are useless, they actually served purpose. Remember that the armies of 3k were mainly peasant soldiers and the level of trainig depended on their officers, so troops tended to be poorly trained. So the one force that drove a army was morale. Duels could gain or lose morale and be a decisive factor in winning battles.
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Unread postby White Horse General » Thu Jul 29, 2004 4:39 pm

Stedfel wrote:
Kuan P'ing wrote:
To kill Lu Bu in three bouts would be simply shocking, I doubt anyone would believe it right off even if they saw it happen.


Yeah they'd be like "he's faking it" or "Are you sure that's Lu Bu?" :lol: :lol:


God, I'm just using it as an example. Can't you people understand an example?


:lol: we understand you were just making an example. We're just having some fun with it is all :D
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Unread postby Sima Hui » Thu Jul 29, 2004 5:25 pm

Stedfel wrote:
Kuan P'ing wrote:So killing an officer in three bouts would be extremely impressive, but fighting 100 bouts would be like even?

On the other hand, if you were fighting Wang Lang and killed him in 3 bouts, it would be more like, "Hey, you killed Wang Lang, good job!" and that would be the end of it. If you killed Wang Land in 100 bouts, you'd be laughed off the field.


Actually, in the novel, Wang Lang personally fought Sun Ce for several bouts without a winner. He was a good fighter and only broke off when an ambush occurred. So killing Wang Lang would be fairly hard. :wink:
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Unread postby Stedfel » Thu Jul 29, 2004 7:35 pm

Sima Hui wrote:
Stedfel wrote:
Kuan P'ing wrote:So killing an officer in three bouts would be extremely impressive, but fighting 100 bouts would be like even?

On the other hand, if you were fighting Wang Lang and killed him in 3 bouts, it would be more like, "Hey, you killed Wang Lang, good job!" and that would be the end of it. If you killed Wang Land in 100 bouts, you'd be laughed off the field.


Actually, in the novel, Wang Lang personally fought Sun Ce for several bouts without a winner. He was a good fighter and only broke off when an ambush occurred. So killing Wang Lang would be fairly hard. :wink:


Okay, that is oddly surprising, and I don't remember that. Let's say you killed old Wang Lang in three bouts then. There, I think that evens it up more.
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Unread postby Kuan P'ing » Mon Aug 23, 2004 2:15 am

Kong Wen wrote:Sometimes the officers didn't "pass". They weren't at a gallop/trot the whole time. Sometimes they would clash side-by-side (with horses kissing, as someone hilariously pointed out) and do some stabbing actions. I believe that each time the weapons clashed (i.e. an attack and parry combo) would be counted as a "bout" or "round".


Why wouldn't the officer just parry an attack, or wait for an opportunity, and kill the horse?
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