What do you hate Liu Shan for the most?

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Which of these events makes you hate Liu Shan most?

His role at Dangyang
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Being taken away by Lady Sun
0
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Ruling Shu badly
17
30%
Listening to Huang Hao
16
29%
Surrender to Wei
9
16%
The Lord of Happiness "Crying Act"
6
11%
Other (Please specify)
8
14%
 
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Unread postby WuK'ung » Mon Jul 19, 2004 7:32 am

Does he really deserve to be hated for any of this? He was just born into the wrong profession.
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Unread postby changshanzhaoyun » Mon Jul 19, 2004 2:14 pm

so what would be his right profession? A pimp? A lazy oaf without any money? A soldier?
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Unread postby WuK'ung » Tue Jul 20, 2004 4:30 am

All I'm saying is the divine right system in place allows for a talentless bum like him be king just because he was the emperor's son. No prerequisites to be royalty after all. He should have been a farmer as he had no political or military talent.
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yea...

Unread postby Waking Dragon » Thu Jul 22, 2004 8:10 pm

Agree with WuK'ung. He just wasn't fit for the job. He kept depending on fools to "assist" him. Sometimes I wonder...did Liu Chan really spend quality time with his father? Maybe it was because of that...I dunno...just wondering...
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Unread postby TheMightyXuHuang » Thu Jul 22, 2004 8:22 pm

He totally messed shu up they still had a chance during the northen campaign and along came this idiot calling them back
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Unread postby Dong Zhou » Thu May 31, 2007 9:05 am

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Not applying himself to ruling when it mattered but continuing to leave state affairs when it was in the hands of corrupt, if capable, people. Leaving things alone, fine during Fei Yi's time but after that, he needs to keep a lid on Jiang Wei and sack the likes of Zhuge Zhan.
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Unread postby Baiko Arashi » Thu May 31, 2007 4:36 pm

listening to Huang Hao, it ruined his country and cost him chances at conquering Wei.
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Re: yea...

Unread postby Sun Gongli » Thu May 31, 2007 4:39 pm

Waking Dragon wrote:Agree with WuK'ung. He just wasn't fit for the job. He kept depending on fools to "assist" him. Sometimes I wonder...did Liu Chan really spend quality time with his father? Maybe it was because of that...I dunno...just wondering...


When Liu Bei died, Liu Shan was barely of age. Considering that the previous years were spent campaigning, I'd say there was very little quality time spent at all. But that's just par for the course.
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Unread postby Lady Wu » Thu May 31, 2007 9:04 pm

Yeah but going to war didn't stop Cao Cao from spending quality time with his kids.
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Unread postby Antiochus » Thu May 31, 2007 9:14 pm

Exar Kun wrote:Surrendering to Wei.
He really didn't have to.


Well, Cheng Du was about to fall. I dont think there was any other good choices for him to take. A hopeless resistance would have resulted to nothing and he was in no position to strike a deal with the Wei army. Its just sad that he allowed Shu to come to such a weal position.
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