jiuwan wrote:During Cao Cao's reign, family members weren't promoted to high positions. During Cao Pi's reign, he had an edict stating that eunuchs would not advance to a certain position; thus holding the eunuchs rising power like during Emperor Huan and Emperor Ling's reign. But during Cao Rui's reign, he started promoting family members; despite, the fact they didn't hold any merit. He also posthumously awarded titles on his empressess' family members; something Cao Pi explicity said not to do.
Six_and_Up wrote:Well those generals related to Cao Cao were all talented, not like the guys Cao Rui promoted to the top, i.e Xiahou Ba. Besides if Cao Cao cared so much for his relatives why the heck would he place Cao Ren and Zhang Liao at probably some of the most dangerous postion for Wei at the time?
Meng Qi of Maoling wrote:However, could it be that Liu Bei was Shu's worst threat? His honorable behavior won him the allegience and respect of many, but his reluctancy to take provinces (such as Jingzhou from Liu Zhang) caused futher problems.
If Liu Bei was cunning and ambitious (though some may argue he was) could he have suceeded quickly in his plans for restoration of the Han dynasty?
Josh wrote:Meng Qi of Maoling wrote:However, could it be that Liu Bei was Shu's worst threat? His honorable behavior won him the allegience and respect of many, but his reluctancy to take provinces (such as Jingzhou from Liu Zhang) caused futher problems.
Liu Bei didn't want to take Jingzhou from Liu Biao because he thought it wrong to take something from a relative when they're weak and feeble because it's unloyal and dishonourable. Although, he did take Sichuan from Liu Zhang, but because is was an excellent base, geographically and economically, plus Sichuan was Cao Cao's next target area for invasion which would give Cao Cao a great advantage in his plan for unifacation, so Liu Bei didn't have a choice if he wanted to eventually defeat Cao Cao and reunite China.If Liu Bei was cunning and ambitious (though some may argue he was) could he have suceeded quickly in his plans for restoration of the Han dynasty?
Liu Bei was very ambitious, he started as a mat weaver and in the end became an emeperor because he wanted to restore the Han and prevent people like Dong Zhou and Cao Cao from ruling China which is very loyal and honourable.
Liu Bei was quite smart as well, he defeated Xiahou Dun with a force that was roughly half Dun's(I think) through strategic deployment. His loss of Xuzhou to Lu Bu was because Zhang Fei gave his word that he would drink too much wine and become drunk, resulting in Fei potentially hurting offending, however he did and Lu Bu saw it as a chance to take it, plus Zhang Fei had offended Lu Bu's son-in-law where he went and told Lu Bu of what Zhang Fei did and captured Xuzhou.
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