Morg wrote:What needs to be remembered here is that Dong Zhuo seemed like an animal (torturing people while eating etc) but he was stationed his whole life at the frontier and was constantly dealing with the tribal people. Therefore his manners would have been different from those who lived in the inner cities.
Lodril wrote:Oh sure, torture may seem rude to us, but among the Qiang it was really a compliment.
Seriously though, Dong Zhuo was half Qiang anyway. He ruled through terror because he had to. He was an outsider and far more barbarian than Han, so he would not have been tolerated by the rest of Chinese nobility for very long in any case. As near as I can tell, the majority of his power in court came from horse trading anyway. Even if everything went his way, he eventually would be worn down and defeated by the Han people. Any leader who sacks his own villages to keep the troops entertained is doomed to a short reign.
And actually, in point of fact... he did triumph over the allied lords. They lost and scattered, only returning to claim victory after Dong Zhuo was ambushed and murdered.
Both in the novel and historically, Dong Zhuo's forces lost badly causing the capital to be relocated to Changan. They scattered from bickering amongst each other, not because Dong Zhuo's army beat them.[quote]Morg wrote:Where did you find the info about him being half Qiang and sacking his own villages?
The village bit is in the novel... all of a sentence, but there nonetheless. Basically, to keep the troops busy, he sent them to raid local villages (it makes sense, since apparently many in his military were Qiang and not used to city life). As for the half-Qiang part... hrm. I want to say it's in that "History of the Han" encylcopedia, but I can't cite you to it directly. I just remember reading an article discussing the sources of his influence, and primary among them was that he was half-Qiang (his mother was Qiang) and raised on the frontier near them, and therefore was valuable to the Han as a diplomat. Since the Chinese were, throughout history, inexplicably poor at breeding horses, the Qiang were a valuable trading ally in addition to being brutal soldiers when called upon as mercenaries or allies.
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