Zhuge Kongming wrote:My question is this: Why did Liu Bei attack Wu? Was it revenge for the death of Guan Yu? Was he just looking for an excuse to attack Wu? Let us know what you think.
Zhou Gongjin wrote:He used Guan Yu's death as an excuse to try and retake Jingzhou. But Liu Bei expected Wu to panic, and they kinda did untill Lu Xun explained why they shouldn't fear someone like Liu Bei, who at that time was a seasoned veteran who even beat Xiahou Dun. Again, Shu underestimates Lu Xun, and again it costs them a lot. Baka baka baka.
Zhuge Kongming wrote:This was the exactly alternate view I was hoping to address. Could you explain why you think Liu Bei was this sort of man? Why leads you to believe Liu Bei would use his brother's death has an excuse...
Anshi wrote:I don't think that Liu Bei intended to take back the Jing province...all you have to do is look on a map and see where Yiling is in relation to the rest of Jingzhou, and you would know that even if Liu Bei had won that battle, he would have had to fight several more battles in order to completely secure the province. But he didn't take that many men...he only took enough for one battle, he just wanted to defeat Wu at that one battle, then retreat back into Yizhou, it was simply a vengeance thing. But not only did he lose the vengeance battle, he lost much more...
Zhang Liao17 wrote:From a SGYY point of view, it was purely vengeance. Liu Bei moved out with a huge army and grim determination. He wanted to take the South Land off the map like Cao Cao did with Xuzhou. The mistake Liu Bei made was relying on his own skills instead of taking a competent advisor with him. Someone who can prevent the fire trap could also help Liu Bei win at Yi-Ling. Although Liu Bei's army was larger, he still faced a very good opponent in Lu Xun. Even with Fa Zheng or Zhuge Liang it would have been a toss-up.
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