Zhou Gongjin wrote:I would say the fictional Liu Bei was a whining child who lived off of others untill he eventualy gave up on propriety and (yet again) backstab his relative to get Yi Zhou.
After the Han Zhong campaign, Liu Bei became too important, so he became arrogant, self centered and prideful. At Yi Ling, Liu bei showed that he could not handle being Emperor, and that he put emotions beyond duty.
My conclusion is that Liu Bei would make a good lower official like Liu Bang, but not a great Emperor like Liu Bang.
I guess Liu Bei misread what the heaven intended for him. Ne?
Chao Tzu Lung1 wrote: i feel him taking over liu zhang land was wrong yes but if he didnl;t take it, a family member, then wei(enemy) or Wu(enemy) would have evenually conquered liu zhang, for liu zhang was not that strong of a ruler. so his act there was bit a immoral, had to be done to establish the empire of shu.
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