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Guan Yu: Good or Bad

Unread postby Lord_Guan_Yu » Sun Jul 27, 2003 7:32 pm

I was just wonderin why people dislike Guan Yu. I can't understand how you can not like him. is it jealousy? I just want to know. Dont take it offensively.
Oh and I made one mistake with the poll. yes means he was a great man and no means he was an idiot.
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Unread postby Kong Wen » Sun Jul 27, 2003 7:35 pm

I guess I will say he was great, but he shouldn't have let his power go to his head. That is the sure path to failure. It seems like everytime a character in the novel started letting his power get to his head, he was dead a few chapters later.
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Unread postby waynethegame » Sun Jul 27, 2003 8:57 pm

I think he was a pretty good guy but very overrated. He did absolutely nothing that would warrant the fame he recieved later on. I have respect for Guan Yu, but I still think he was an arrogant general who lost his life due to underestimating an opponent, something a veteran of many years should have known better than to do.
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Unread postby Devilrai » Sun Jul 27, 2003 11:45 pm

People hate Guan Yu? How? If you ask me, he was a great man of honor, he fought along side Liu Bei in countless battle, but his untimely death was sad, but he fought hard to fulfill his oath, but wasn't able to, because of Wei, and Wu...but overall he is a great man.
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Re: Guan Yu: Good or Bad

Unread postby TheGreatNads » Mon Jul 28, 2003 12:00 am

Lord_Guan_Yu wrote:I was just wonderin why people dislike Guan Yu. I can't understand how you can not like him. is it jealousy? I just want to know. Dont take it offensively.
Oh and I made one mistake with the poll. yes means he was a great man and no means he was an idiot.


In SGZ(History) many of the supposed honorable and impressive things he did weren't mentioned.

I don't like Guan Yu because in history he was a terrible general, and an arrogant and dishonorable person.
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Unread postby GuanYu » Mon Jul 28, 2003 12:17 am

I'm GuanYu, Brother of Zhang Fei and Lui Bei. HEHEHE

Everyone is talking about me ^&^

He is the best general in my views, he helped Lui Bei through many difficulties. Well, many of you say that he hasn't accomplish anything. If he was one Cao Cao's general, then he will do much better. I know most of you think Cao Cao is the best leader in RTK.
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Re: Guan Yu: Good or Bad

Unread postby Lord_Guan_Yu » Mon Jul 28, 2003 12:13 pm

TheGreatNads wrote:
Lord_Guan_Yu wrote:I was just wonderin why people dislike Guan Yu. I can't understand how you can not like him. is it jealousy? I just want to know. Dont take it offensively.
Oh and I made one mistake with the poll. yes means he was a great man and no means he was an idiot.


In SGZ(History) many of the supposed honorable and impressive things he did weren't mentioned.

I don't like Guan Yu because in history he was a terrible general, and an arrogant and dishonorable person.

I think you are just jealous.
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Re: Guan Yu: Good or Bad

Unread postby Shadowlink » Mon Jul 28, 2003 12:40 pm

Lord_Guan_Yu wrote:
TheGreatNads wrote:
Lord_Guan_Yu wrote:I was just wonderin why people dislike Guan Yu. I can't understand how you can not like him. is it jealousy? I just want to know. Dont take it offensively.
Oh and I made one mistake with the poll. yes means he was a great man and no means he was an idiot.


In SGZ(History) many of the supposed honorable and impressive things he did weren't mentioned.

I don't like Guan Yu because in history he was a terrible general, and an arrogant and dishonorable person.

I think you are just jealous.
i kind of Agree with lorsd Guan yu i mean alot of people respect him in life and have him as a confucuis god.
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Unread postby Yorak » Mon Jul 28, 2003 12:55 pm

Why would someone be jealous of someone 1800 years dead and quite likely on the other side of the world?

And besides, there's little to be jealous of. I have yet to read any historic text where it shows Guan Yu doing ANYTHING that merits giving him the title of God of War.

Let's look at his record.

Pros:
- Killed Yan Liang in a surprise attack
- Ignored pain during surgery
- Mopped up an army that was ruined by a flood.

Wow, no wonder he's the God of War, with all of those achievements! How kickass he is!

Now, let's look at his failures:
- Lost Xiapi to Cao Cao
- Planned to invade Wu, but was frightened off by just hearing that Gan Ning was there
- Failed to defeat Cao Ren, despite the fact that Cao Ren had only 1000 men compared to Guan Yu's large army...
- And then got whupped by Xu Huang
- Left his rear flank exposed (while leaving disgruntled subordinates in charge, no less) and lost the provence he was supposed to be protecting
- And was arrogant as all hell, to boot.

The ONLY thing Guan Yu has going for him is his profound sense of loyalty. That I will grant him. Beyond that, he was arrogant and sub-par compared to many, many other generals. THAT'S why we dislike him.
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Re: Guan Yu: Good or Bad

Unread postby Sam » Mon Jul 28, 2003 1:44 pm

Lord_Guan_Yu wrote:I think you are just jealous.


Don't be so ignorant and stubborn towards our members. In my opinion, Guan Yu was in no way a great man, and I would rather cease to exist than be like that of him. "Jealousy" is something I don't think anyone could feel to such an arrogant individual; his historical accomplishments in no way proved him to be a great general, and his arrogant attitude results in my having absolutely no respect towards him. You are obviously referring to the SGYY perspective of Guan Yu, or perhaps the perspective of that of RTK games, but judging Guan Yu historically, the vast majority conclude that he wasn’t a great man.
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