The greatest battle in the Romance of the 3 Kingdoms?

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Which is the greatest battle or campaign ever fought in ROTK?

The Yellow Turban Menace
The Alliance against Dong Zhuo
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Cao Cao and Liu Bei versus Lu Bu at Xia Pi
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The Battle of Guan Du
The Battle at Chi Bi
The Siege of Nanjun
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The Invasion of Yi Zhou
Ma Chao and Xi Liang Forces versus Cao Cao
Sun Quan and Cao Cao's Stand-Off at Ru Xu
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The Battle at Yi Ling
Zhuge Liang's Nothern Campaigns
Others (Please specify)
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Unread postby TheGreatNads » Sun Jul 27, 2003 12:15 am

Unfortunately, the historical Chi Bi isn't as much as a turning point as it is in the novel. It wasn't Cao Cao's first failure, offensive against Sun Quan.
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Unread postby Trip My Wire » Sun Jul 27, 2003 2:15 am

its gotta be chi bi... for reasons already stated
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Unread postby Antiochus » Fri Aug 15, 2003 11:15 pm

Chi Bi was since it sealed the war for 40 year. It was a totally suprising event since the odds were on Cao Cao side.
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Unread postby Morg » Fri Aug 15, 2003 11:31 pm

I personally like Yi Ling. The way it builds in the book and the way that you are lead to think that this huge war will come about is some great writing IMO, as the battle is incredibly one sided and not in the way that you are lead to believe. It's not a great battle as such, but it's certainly one of my favourites in ROTK.
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Unread postby Ma Zhi Xuan » Sat Aug 16, 2003 11:57 am

I love the battles when Shu were taking Han Zhong from Wei. They just had victory after victory, and Shu kicked their @$$.
Chi Bi is also a great battle because of Wu's awesome(spelling?) fire attack and Liu Bei's ambushes that decimated Cao Cao's army.
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Unread postby Sima Hui » Mon Dec 15, 2003 9:58 pm

Guan Du is just amazing! Cao Cao had 70 000 troops while Yuan Shao had 700 000 troops! It was a hard choice between Guan Du and Chi Bi. Another favourite is the clashes at Baima, Yan Jun and Cang Ting.

Does anyone know anything about the historical Guan Du?
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Unread postby Koichi » Mon Dec 15, 2003 10:26 pm

Chi Bi was amazing in terms not only of the forces that were mustered on both sides, but the campaign of wits preceding it. Zhou Yu deceived Jiang Gan, Cao Cao saw through Huang Gai and Zhou Yu's fire scheme, and at the end, Zhuge Liang deceived them all. They say there's no end to deception in warfare and it shows better in no other battle than Chi Bi.

I voted for the Northern Campaigns thought because I felt not only were they long, but they were the most evenly matched campaign in the novel. Both sides had massive stores of resources and men and the respective armies were led by the finest strategiest of the era, Zhuge Liang and Sima Yi.
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Unread postby Rurouni Kenshin » Mon Dec 15, 2003 10:41 pm

I think that the battle of Yi Ling was an important battle. If Liu Bei's confidence in himself and his vengence against his brothers did not blind him, he probably wouldn't have died afterwards. And it was also a great starting point for Lu Xun's greatness to rise.
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Unread postby Asellas » Mon Dec 15, 2003 11:04 pm

I think Chi Bi was a riveting battle and of course one of the most important and well-known sea/naval battles ever. According to all the events, it seemed as if a lot more happened than the usual ones like Battle of Jie Ting or whatever.

Guan Du was pretty awesome too, how Cao Cao saw Yuan Shao's weakness and was able to defeat him quickly, also showed off Guan Yu but I do admit his "Victories" wern't victories because when he slayed Yan Liang, he was off guard and no weapon.

Wen Chou wasn't even prepared for battle when Guan Yu ended him so I think it was a really good battle from all the facts in it.
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Unread postby ???? » Sat Aug 28, 2004 8:28 am

Actually,Guan Yu's escape with Liu Bei's wife was amazing..
He killed more than 50 well-known officers in the escape and successfully led her to safety..
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