animetayl wrote:After the death of Guan Yu, I believe he turned far more vicious than Cao Cao ever was.
So much Liu Bei bashing... where's Cao Cao's share?
<b>Cao Cao's atrocities far out weighs Liu Bei.</b>
The only instance anyone provided so far is Liu Bei's defeat at Yi Ling. The novel listed the Shu army as being 700,000. But not every single one of them died by Lu Xun's hands. Now bear in mind these casualties are all part of the army. Death is something that will happen to each and everyone of these soldiers at some point in their military career. You can not blame it solely on Liu Bei's part. The soldiers were trained to deal with it.
Now Cao Cao had more heinous crimes to his belt. I'm not even going to list them all here. I'll just mention some of them.
First off there was an assassinination attempt. When he caught the perpetrator, he had him brutually interrogated and causing bodily harm.
Second, on his flight after the failed Dong Zhuo assassination attempt, he was fleeing with Chen Gong. Staying at Lu Bo She's (I think that's how you spell his name) place, he murdered his host's entire family.
Third, upon the news of his father Cao Song's death, Cao Cao bent upon vengenance, set out to destryo Xu Zhou and Tao Qian. <b>Innocent</b> people were brutually killed, village plundered, dogs, chickens, nothing living was left alive. All were killed. The slaughter of innocents totalled over 100,000 (10,000 in another source forgot which one LGZ used). The slaughter of innocent civilians is way worse then any number of deaths of army personnel and soldiers. Because soldiers can defend their lives, innocent civilians can not. Plain and simple.
Fouth, Cao Cao did not like Bian Rang of Chen Liu so he slaughtered him and his entire clan in cold blood.
Fifth, the entire clans of Yuan Zhong and Huan Zhao of Pei were slaughtered after Bian Rang.
Sixth, one of Cao Cao's concubines didn't wake him up because she had seen him sleeping peacefully. When he woke up, he beat her to death.
Seventh, during one of his campaigns there was a shortage of food supplies. Cao Cao instructed the person in charge to give out smaller portions. A mutiny occurred in the army. Cao Cao blamed the person in charge and executed him.
Eighth, an eunuch of Han Ling Di was walking outside during a curfew, Cao Cao beated him to death for it.
Ninth, Cao Cao attacked Yongqiu for several months and massacred the city. He also killed Zhang Miao's brother, Zhang Chao, as well as his entire family.
Tenth, on his attack on Lu Bu, Cao Cao massacred Pengcheng, which was masscred only a few years earlier by Cao Cao himself.
Elevnth, after the defeat of Yuan Shao, Cao Cao buried alive 80,000 surrendered soldiers of Yuan Shao.
Twelveth, after the failed attempt of assassination by Dong Cheng and others, Cao Cao executed the entire families of Dong Cheng, Zhong Ji, Wu Zilan, Wang Zifu, and others
Thirteenth, Cao Cao sent Xiahou Yuan to attack Song Jian where he massacred the city of Paohan.
Fourteenth, Cao Cao massacred the city of the Hun king, Dou Mao.
Fifthteen, Cao Cao ordered Cao Ren to attack Wan who massacred the city.
Sixteenth, another assassination attempt, this time by Empress Fu. Cao Cao executed Empress Fu, her two brothers, and Fu Wan's entire clan numbered several hundred people.
Seventeenth, Cao Cao had made a rule to his army, that if anyone stepped on the grass (of this field they were passing through on their march, a long story) that person's head would be cut off. Cao Cao fell off his horse when it got spooked by a snake, and landed right in the field. Instead of obeying his own rule, he cut off a strand of his hair instead of his own head. A double standard. Anyone could be killed except for himself.
That's all I can think of for the time being. Do you want me to scrounge through the novel to find more? I don't even have to, and Liu Bei's list will not be as long as Cao Cao's list.