Liu Biao

[Russ]

I've noticed that many people have started out in the service of Liu Biao. Some of these people include Wei Yan and Gan Ning. Are there any accounts of these well known warriors fighting side by side at the time.

[Lance]

I think Gan Ning was already in service with Wu when Wei Yan joined...but I doubt they ever fought together or even really knew of eachother personally...I mean, I think something like that would be recorded...

[Elemental]

Liu Biao's province (I think) held the highest population out of all the provinces. Jing Zhou was very big also.

[Cao Zhi]

Didn't Huang Zhong also live in Liu Biao's lands?

[Wen Yang]

Didn't Huang Zhong also live in Liu Biao's lands?

Yes sir, he occupied Youxian with Liu Biao's nephew Liu Yan. He served him till Cao Cao took over Jing.

[Ender]

Didn't Huang Zhong also live in Liu Biao's lands?

Indeed he did. Huang Zhing's SGZ Bio

[Tianshan Zi]

Liu Biao's province (I think) held the highest population out of all the provinces. Jing Zhou was very big also.

Jingzhou was also known for being the home of or producing many high-quality scholars.

[CK]

To digress from the question but nevertheless quintessential. Perhaps one of the reason why Liu Biao, with such a huge area of land and extraordinary talents underneath, failed to be an awesome ruler because he was very much like Yuan Shao, all appearance no substance and too suspicious of other people.

As Chen Shou commented at the end of Liu Biao's biography in SGZ, "Yuan Shao and Liu Biao seemed like intimidating men who commanded respect with faily good reputations... however, even if they look generous on the outside, they are nonetheless overly suspicious; even if they enjoyed contributions in strategems, they lack the decisiveness to implement them; even if they had no lack of talents, none were relied and used upon; even if they recognised excellent suggestions, they would fail to implement it because of distrust. Both also abandoned tradition by giving in to personal desires and appointing the younger son as heir apparent. Eventually, their country was destroyed which was nothing to take pity of..."

Clearly, Liu Biao's suspicion can be seen in how he wanted to kill Han Song immediately when the latter proposed surrendering to Cao Cao. While Han Song had goodwill in his suggestion, Liu Biao thought Han had betrayed him.

[Shadowlink]

Liu Biao was his wife puppet Gan ning saw no future in him so he leave. Wu ate all of Liu Biao land.

[Mengdez New Book]

Clearly, Liu Biao's suspicion can be seen in how he wanted to kill Han Song immediately when the latter proposed surrendering to Cao Cao. While Han Song had goodwill in his suggestion, Liu Biao thought Han had betrayed him.

Don't blame Liu Biao for the suspicion he got over Han Song. When Cao Cao faced Yuan Shao at Guan Du, Liu Biao had agree to help Yuan Shao. He sent his troops to the border but never took any move. This made the land lords and scholars around Liu Bei stress him to take the move. To calm this situation, Liu Biao sent Han Song to have a clearer picture about Cao Cao force. You know what Cao Cao did? Promoted Han Song to become governor of Ling Ling. When Han Song was back, he kept saying that Cao Cao was good and they should help him. If you are Liu Biao, what would you do? It's look like that your officer are being bribe and keep telling you that the one who bribe him is indeed very nice and good. So, for me, the action that Liu Biao took quite logical.