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Unread postby starting-line » Sat Aug 14, 2004 4:46 am

How did he get them, and which one did zhao yun took?
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Unread postby Stedfel » Sat Aug 14, 2004 4:49 am

starting-line wrote:How did he get them, and which one did zhao yun took?


The novel doesn't explain how he got them, and I doubt they existed in history. Zhao Yun got the Sword of Light after killing Xiahou En.
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Unread postby FengChu » Sat Aug 14, 2004 6:58 pm

Luo Guan Zhong translates the two prized swords that Cao Cao had as Black Pommel, and Heaven's Prop. Xiahou En (Cao's swordbearer) always carried Black Pommel with him, but Zhao Yun killed him at the Battle of Steepslope. Cao Cao always wore Heaven's Prop himself. The better of the two swords was Heaven's Prop though.
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Unread postby robbyjo » Sat Aug 14, 2004 7:00 pm

Actually, that's the old C.H. Brewitt-Taylor that used strange names IIRC. Their actual names are Sword of Light and Sword of Heaven. Yes, Sword of Heaven is better of the two.... (at least in the games)

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Unread postby Stedfel » Sun Aug 15, 2004 6:56 am

robbyjo wrote:Actually, that's the old C.H. Brewitt-Taylor that used strange names IIRC. Their actual names are Sword of Light and Sword of Heaven. Yes, Sword of Heaven is better of the two.... (at least in the games)

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You sure? My Brewitt-Taylor translates them as the Sword of Heaven and Sword of Light.
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Unread postby Wizardman » Sun Aug 15, 2004 1:09 pm

Stedfel wrote:
robbyjo wrote:Actually, that's the old C.H. Brewitt-Taylor that used strange names IIRC. Their actual names are Sword of Light and Sword of Heaven. Yes, Sword of Heaven is better of the two.... (at least in the games)

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You sure? My Brewitt-Taylor translates them as the Sword of Heaven and Sword of Light.


Perhaps some Brewitt-Taylor versions (like the one online) used Black Pommel and Heaven's Prop, while some do not. Same for some Moss Roberts versions. For example, mine calls them Black Pommel and Heaven's Prop, rather than Sword of Heaven and Sword of Light.
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Unread postby robbyjo » Sun Aug 15, 2004 2:07 pm

Yeah, old CHBT actually replaces all names. You can still find some of the unreplaced ones like Quin Quington... :lol:

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Unread postby Mithel » Tue Aug 17, 2004 4:04 am

In the Moss Roberts translation, it mentions that Sun Quan's beard is "purple".

Does this imply his beard seemed purple because it was such a dark colour, or this one of fantastical elements of the novel, with his beard actually being a striking mauve?
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Re: Sun Quan's beard

Unread postby Kong Wen » Tue Aug 17, 2004 9:32 am

Mithel wrote:In the Moss Roberts translation, it mentions that Sun Quan's beard is "purple".

Does this imply his beard seemed purple because it was such a dark colour, or this one of fantastical elements of the novel, with his beard actually being a striking mauve?

I always took it to mean that it was one of those dark reddish-brown-black colours that sometimes appear purple under certain lighting. I have known people whose hair could be classified as the same kind of purple.
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Unread postby Kuan P'ing » Wed Aug 18, 2004 5:40 am

Is there any place to either buy or download the entire TV series (With english suntitles of course)?
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