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Re: Three Kingdoms Questions (You Ask, We Answer)

Unread postby DragonAtma » Thu Jun 15, 2017 3:05 pm

It's more likely that Zhuge Dan had a friendship with Sima Zhou, not Sima Zhao. After all, Zhuge Dan's daughter married Sima Zhou.
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Re: Three Kingdoms Questions (You Ask, We Answer)

Unread postby Rezko_Kanashi » Fri Jun 16, 2017 8:27 am

I believe relatively recently there was a tomb discovered to a general of Wei in the early stages of
the three kingdoms era. (220 A.D) That could lump in many warriors as to whom it could've belonged to. Xiahou Yuan, Zhang Liao, Cao Ren, Xiahou Ma? Are there any leads or theories as to who resided in that tomb.
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Re: Three Kingdoms Questions (You Ask, We Answer)

Unread postby DragonAtma » Fri Jun 16, 2017 1:01 pm

Do you mean the one they found in December 2009? There are claims it belonged to Cao Cao, claims it belonged to Cao Huan, and even claims it was a decoy tomb. It's been officially named the Cao Cao Mausoleum, but experts are far from a consensus.
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Re: Three Kingdoms Questions (You Ask, We Answer)

Unread postby Rezko_Kanashi » Fri Jun 16, 2017 5:55 pm

I am aware of the Cao Huang and Cao Xiu tombs. The one I'm refering to is the one found around 2012 that is said to keep the remains of a 45 year old man. Unless that is a part of Cao Xiu's and i found an article that dates a few years after its discovery I believe it belongs to another person other than Cao Huang and Cao Xiu.
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Re: Three Kingdoms Questions (You Ask, We Answer)

Unread postby Rezko_Kanashi » Fri Jun 16, 2017 6:09 pm

It was reported that a bronze mirror and many other relics within. It was found in Xiangyang.
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Re: Three Kingdoms Questions (You Ask, We Answer)

Unread postby plunged » Fri Jun 16, 2017 9:07 pm

This pdf file tells of a lot of items found in the tomb and shares some other facts too.

http://www.kaogu.cn/uploads/soft/Chines ... 0Hubei.pdf
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Re: Three Kingdoms Questions (You Ask, We Answer)

Unread postby Sun Fin » Sat Jun 17, 2017 9:45 am

What do we know of Ma Yuanyi? He seemed to spend time in Luoyang communicating with Eunuchs and he was conveniently there when Tang Zhou's letter was sent to He Jin so he executed straight away yet most sources talk of his power base being outside the city. Do we know if he held rank within the civil service and whether he was a native of Luoyang?
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Re: Three Kingdoms Questions (You Ask, We Answer)

Unread postby Dong Zhou » Sun Jun 18, 2017 8:02 am

We don't know much about him other then division chief in Jing and Yang, presumably high up in Turban overall plans. I would assume he was not a native of Luoyang and more a native of the regions he seemed to be able to gather command in but quite how he was able to get close to eunuchs is unclear
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Re: Three Kingdoms Questions (You Ask, We Answer)

Unread postby Sun Fin » Sun Jun 18, 2017 10:58 am

Thanks Dong, I think that is what I wanted to read, stuff like this we don't know is the novelist's friend. Gives me space to make his connections with the city whatever I want!
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Re: Three Kingdoms Questions (You Ask, We Answer)

Unread postby DragonAtma » Sun Jun 18, 2017 11:15 am

IIRC the turbans planned to have three main units: one led by Zhang Jiao, one from Nanyang, and one led by Ma Yuanyi -- so yeah, he must have been very high in their hierarchy.

As for the eunuch connection, Wang Yun found letters which revealed Zhang Rang was in connection with the turbans. My best guess? Much like the fictional Yang Song, the top eunuchs were extremely corrupt and were willing to sell out the Han for a buck and a half. Okay, they were far too greedy to settle for pocket change, but...
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