Han Xin wrote:Lu Bu in Romance of the Three Kingdoms was very similar to the historical Guan Yu. Strong, but ultimately a moron, cowards, and treacherous person...
Zhuge Kongming wrote:Ha! How can you compare Guan Yu to Lu Bu? How are they so similar? How is Guan Yu as much the immoral traitor that was Lu Bu? He was not foolish at all and he was miles away from being a coward.
Zhou Gongjin wrote:I don't like Guan Yu because he ultimately was destroyed by a child who had no military experience or even rank. The young genius Lu Xun, together with Lü Meng slayed the God of War. Irony, pure irony.
Great Deer wrote:
Lu Xun wasn't a child then. He was pretty much grown up already (183 A.D. - 245 A.D.). At 219 A.D., Lu Xun was already 36 years old.
Great Deer wrote:If I'm not wrong, I heard lots of compliments from Wu supporters going in Lu Xun and Lu Meng's way (esp. Lu Xun). Considering that it took the cream of the war talents in Wu to bring down Guan Yu (plus the fact that he was away and did not have a chance to engage Wu in a conventional battle), I feel that some credits if not much should be given to Guan Yu.
Great Deer wrote:Furthermore, as I've stated in my previous post, Guan Yu was tasked to defend Jing Zhou for quite sometime. In fact, he did it from 211 A.D. all the way beyond 214 A.D. (the year Liu Bei accquired Yi Zhou). He was the cornerstone of the young Shu empire without which Liu Bei's army in Yi Zhou would be caught in the middle. Hence, I would like to dispute Han Xin's statement that Guan Yu did absolutely nothing for Shu.
Zhou Gongjin wrote:
Oh yes but that is what Guan Yu himself called him.
Zhou Gongjin wrote:
Still he was the one who provoked the attack and lost it. Besides, Lu Xun had little experience other than administration, so the cream of the war talents would be Lü Meng only. And look at any KOEI game, Guan Yu is always better than Lü Meng and Lu Xun.
Zhou Gongjin wrote:He could have done more if he hadn't been so foolish as to underestimate Wu and its potential. It was mostly Guan Yu's reputation that kept Wei initially out of JIngzhou, and it was the fact that Sun Quan was a relative of Liu Bei that he did not invade JIngzhou without a reason, not because of Guan Yu.
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