Cao Cao = good politian + good warlord + surperm leader
Zhuge Liang = surperm politian + superme warload + bad leader
Jimayo Oyamitch wrote:I prefer the novel Cao Cao to the historical one. He seemed a lot nicer to me.
Zhou Dexiang wrote:Really? He seemed a little more diababolical in the novel because he always tried to rationalize all the crap he accidently did by being drunk.
In SGZ, it wasn't there as much, and everyone else was doing it, so he didn't look as bad.
Although Zhuge didn't, and I think not slaying your cronies when your drunk by San Guo standards means you're a poor leader at best.
Jimayo Oyamitch wrote:
Yeah but he didn't slaughter 10,000 innocent civilians, or bury 80,000 POWs alive in the novel. And he was quite nice to most of the civilians he came across(like those guys that ran away then came back and offered him their heads).
SGYY translation from www.threekingdoms.com wrote:Cao Cao's army of revenge laid waste whatever place it passed through, slaying the people and desecrating their cemeteries (AD 193).
SGYY translation from www.threekingdoms.com wrote:Cao Cao's troops followed hard but could not come up with him. However, they captured all his impedimenta, and they slew some eighty thousands of his army so that the watercourses ran blood and the drowned corpses could not be counted. It was a most complete victory for Cao Cao, and he made over all the spoil to the army.
Jimayo Oyamitch wrote:I don't consider killing soldiers in battle as bad as killing POWs. And it doesn't say he killed 10,000 innocent civilians. Laying waste to all doesn't neccessarily mean he was killing innocents.
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