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Chen Shou/SanguoZhi sources

Unread postby LongShot27 » Mon Jul 15, 2019 10:59 am

Hello all,

Im currently working on a graduate paper relating to the historiography of the Three Kingdoms period, particular the methods employed by Chen Shou and those that followed shortly afterward. I have all of the primary sources I'll need, but there don't seem to be many English language secondary sources. I've found a couple of books and articles, but they really only mention in passing the way the period was viewed as history. Does anyone know of any particular sources that would be useful? Thanks.
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Re: Chen Shou/SanguoZhi sources

Unread postby Sun Fin » Tue Jul 16, 2019 11:04 am

Welcome Longshot! What an awesome thread. It's always exciting to hear of new academics looking into the Three Kingdoms!

I think you might find this thread helpful! :D

It's a list of all the English Language Three Kingdom sources I and the collected community know of! Just a note, not all of them are on the front page as I've been lax updating it as time has gone on but if you hunt through there are some hidden gems!

In terms of the specific topic you are thinking about, ie the historiography of the period, I can think about a few books that open with a pretty decent source analysis which might be helpful? Details on everything on this list is in the thread above!

1) Carl Leban's thesis on Cao Cao
2) Empresses and Consorts by Cutter and Crowell has a chapter on source analysis of the SGZ.
3) I'm pretty certain one of Prof Rafe De Crispigny book's goes into some depth on sources but I can't recall which one!
4) I would also recommend emailing Prof De Crispigny directly and asking him if there are any sources he'd suggest! He has been incredibly gracious and helpful o previous people doing academic papers who have asked for guidance in this way!

Do you mind if I ask you where your studying? Will your paper be written in English? If so would you be willing to share it with me when your done? :oops:

Also if you have any more specific questions about sources on any particular topic I and some others will always be willing to share our thoughts, even if we can't be as helpful as we'd like!
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Re: Chen Shou/SanguoZhi sources

Unread postby LongShot27 » Tue Jul 16, 2019 1:14 pm

It is for a class in the future, and if you want to.
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Re: Chen Shou/SanguoZhi sources

Unread postby Sun Fin » Tue Jul 16, 2019 1:35 pm

Did you find anything helpful in the other thread?
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Re: Chen Shou/SanguoZhi sources

Unread postby LongShot27 » Tue Jul 16, 2019 11:14 pm

not really, thanks anyway
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Re: Chen Shou/SanguoZhi sources

Unread postby LongShot27 » Wed Jul 17, 2019 10:56 am

Current sources:

Chang Qu. Huayang Guo Zhi 4th century CE. Annotated by Liu Lin. Chengdu: Ba-Shu Shushe, 1984.

Chen Shou (233-297). Sanguozhi. Dongjing: Dongjing yin shua hui she, 1885.
https://archive.org/details/sanguozhi65juan13chen

Cutter, Robert. “The Death of Empress Zhen: Fiction and Historiography in Early Medieval China.” Journal of the American Oriental Society 112, no. 4 (1992): 577-583. https://www.jstor.org/stable/604472.

Fang Xuanling et al. Jin Shu 648. Beijing: Zhonghua shu ju : Xin hua shu dian Beijing fa xing suo fa xing, 1974. https://archive.org/details/jinshu130juan01fang and https://archive.org/details/jinshu130juan07fang

Guo Song. Shiyu. As annotated by Pei Songzhi.

Hughes-Warrington, Marine. Fifty Key Thinkers on History. London: Routledge, 2000.

McLaren, Anne. “History Repackaged in the Age of Print: The ‘Sanguozhi" and "Sanguo yanyi.’” Bulletin of the School of Oriental and African Studies, University of London 69, no. 2 (2006): 293-313.
https://www.jstor.org/stable/20182040.

Nojonen, Matti. The Art of Deception. Strategy lessons from Ancient China. Helsinki: Gaudeamus, 2009.

Pei Songzhi. Annotated Records of the Three Kingdoms 429. Hong Kong: Zhonghua Publishing, 1971.

Rusen, John. Time and History: The Variety of Cultures. New York: Berghahn Books, 2007.

Sima Guang et al. Zizhi Tongjian. 1084. http://www.guoxue.com/shibu/zztj/content/zztj_083.htm

Tillman, Hoyt. “Historic Analogies and Evaluative Judgments: Zhuge Liang as Portrayed in Chen Shou's ‘Chronicle of the Three Kingdoms’ and Pei Songzhi's Commentary.” Oriens Extremes 43 (2002): 60-70.
https://www.jstor.org/stable/24047592.

Wei Shao. Wei Shu. 6th Century CE. As annotated by Pei Songzhi.

Xi Zuochi. Han Jin Chunqiu. 4th Century CE. As annotated by Pei Songzhi

Zhao Yi. Ershi'er Shi Zhaji. 18th century CE.
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Re: Chen Shou/SanguoZhi sources

Unread postby Sun Fin » Wed Jul 17, 2019 4:00 pm

Thank you for sharing your sources with us! If I come up with any thing else that I think will help you I'll let you know. I do think it would be worth emailing Prof De Crespigny though, here's his email: rafe.deCrespigny@anu.edu.au
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Re: Chen Shou/SanguoZhi sources

Unread postby LongShot27 » Thu Jul 18, 2019 7:14 am

Kimberly Besio, “Zhang Fei in Yuan Vernacular Literature: Legend, Heroism, and History in the Reproduction of the Three Kingdoms Story Cycle”, Journal of Song-Yuan Studies 27, (1997): 66, https://www.jstor.org/stable/23495569
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Re: Chen Shou/SanguoZhi sources

Unread postby Sun Fin » Thu Jul 18, 2019 6:28 pm

I wondered if this book might do some of what you were looking for?
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Re: Chen Shou/SanguoZhi sources

Unread postby Fornadan » Tue Jul 23, 2019 7:55 am

LongShot27 wrote:Current sources:

Wei Shao. Wei Shu. 6th Century CE. As annotated by Pei Songzhi.


The Weishu annotated by Pei Songzhi is the book by Wang Chen & Ruan Ji covering Cao Wei, written mid 3rd century.

The Weishu written by Wei Shao is a different book, covering the history of Tuoba Wei
Translations from the Book of Jin: http://bookofjin.tumblr.com/index
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