HHS biography of Lu Zhi (translation)

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HHS biography of Lu Zhi (translation)

Unread postby plunged » Sat Mar 11, 2017 10:32 am

Hello everyone,

Happy to present another translation: this time the official biography of Lu Zhi :-) With this, all official biographies of the "four heroes of the Yellow Turban Rebellion" are now available in English. I believe for the first time ever.

Please enjoy! And let me know when you do.

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http://threekingdoms.wikia.com/wiki/Lu_ ... 7%E6%A4%8D

Lu Zhi's official biography is in chapter 64 of History of the Later Han, which you can see in Traditional Chinese here.

Just some random bits of info:
- Lu Zhi's biography is the shortest of the four YTR heroes. Huangfu Song's is the longest, followed by He Jin's.
- A lot of Lu Zhi's bio is filled with citations, rather than things he did.
- A lot of Lu Zhi's bio is also filled with notes. His has more notes than any of the other bios.
- A bit of extra information on Lu Zhi can actually be found in He Jin's official biography, which tells about how Lu Zhi saved the Emperor from the eunuchs near the Yellow River.

If you're interested in more on the YTR heroes, take a look at these posts:
He Jin Huangfu Song Zhu Jun

Perhaps Fu Xie's and Zou Jing's bio's should be done too some day
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Re: HHS biography of Lu Zhi (translation)

Unread postby Fornadan » Sat Mar 11, 2017 4:09 pm

I've been meaning to ask: Whose notes are they?
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Re: HHS biography of Lu Zhi (translation)

Unread postby DragonAtma » Sat Mar 11, 2017 6:08 pm

And the anti-turban biography trifecta is complete!

It mentions "Dan and Shi to the Zhou Court", but doesn't mention who they are. Now, by chance I happen to know that Dan is the Duke of Zhou (who I normally see as Duke of Zhou!), but I don't know who Shi is. So I recommend adding a comment on who they are.
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Re: HHS biography of Lu Zhi (translation)

Unread postby Fornadan » Sun Mar 12, 2017 8:07 am

Shi is the Duke of Shao.
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Re: HHS biography of Lu Zhi (translation)

Unread postby Sun Fin » Sun Mar 12, 2017 8:27 am

Interesting, so Lu Zhi was a commoner who reached a high rank!

He clearly had access to schooling, which I believe was on offer to everyone? Did you have to be able to afford for children to not work? I'm presuming that's why more people didn't take it up?
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Re: HHS biography of Lu Zhi (translation)

Unread postby DragonAtma » Sun Mar 12, 2017 8:32 am

IIRC schooling was available for everyone, but many people couldn't afford to skip working because their family needed them to help out.
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Re: HHS biography of Lu Zhi (translation)

Unread postby plunged » Sun Mar 12, 2017 9:38 am

Fornadan wrote:I've been meaning to ask: Whose notes are they?


I don't know. I copied the traditional Chinese version from a website a long time ago, but that website is now down or has moved to a different address. In any case I can't find it anymore. :(
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Re: HHS biography of Lu Zhi (translation)

Unread postby Dong Zhou » Mon Mar 13, 2017 11:57 am

I Lu Zhi's letter about Ma Rong
I was not daunted by my foolness and shallowness to off er explanations of the book.


I wonder if Zou Feng spoke against Lu Zhi not due to corruption but due to miliatry misunderstanding. Thanks, I do like particularly reading the HHS conclusions as well.

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