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Guan Yu story?

Unread postby RayHeaton » Fri Aug 07, 2015 4:25 pm

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Part of a Mahjong set showing scenes from ROTK
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Re: Guan Yu story?

Unread postby Zyzyfer » Mon Aug 10, 2015 1:32 am

Looks like an imagining of Guan Yu facing off with Pang De, perhaps? But if Guan Yu is the guy on the left then the conspicuous lack of a beard is a concern.

If Guan Yu is on the right...wow what a mess.
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Re: Guan Yu story?

Unread postby Xiahou Ren » Mon Aug 10, 2015 3:20 am

Custom made mahjong pieces?
Forgive me for being blunt, but it looks pretty sloppy.
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Re: Guan Yu story?

Unread postby Bush Leagues » Mon Aug 10, 2015 7:54 am

You're not thinking outside the box, Xiahou Ren. You too, Zyzyfer! Let me open your mind to possibilities. :D

So, what's happened is that these Mahjong pieces are actually images straight from an alternate reality. The image we see here, is a still-shot of the battle between Pang De and Guan Yu - this happened for real in that reality! Obviously the numbers don't exist in their reality, that's clearly for our convenience. But what's striking is that the color black clearly doesn't exist in this reality, for the lack of any on the images itself.

"But Bush Leagues! How can that be Guan Yu! He doesn't have his glorious beard!" Ah, but remember this is another reality. I, The Puzzle Master™, have already solved this riddle. :D

You see, back in 200-202, when Guan Yu served as a guest commander for Cao Cao, he met a fine woman who he was immediately smitten with. Unfortunately, this woman was the wife of a battalion commander in the regiment Guan Yu was leading. The woman was impressed with him and eventually, she and Guan Yu had an affair. Shortly afterward, the battalion commander (whose name was lost to history) discovered this, and was filled with rage.

He confronted Guan Yu, who was shamed beyond words. Guan Yu then offered the commander his head as punishment. The commander raised his sword, ready to strike down this man who had hurt him so, when, at the last moment, his wife jumped in the way and was killed by her own husband's blade. With her final words, she said Guan Yu was a warrior who could serve Cao and unite the nation under he who should be the true lord of the land. She then passed from this world.

The commander, stricken with grief, hesitated for only a moment before taking his own life.

Guan Yu, who had prepared himself for death, was deeply moved by what he witnessed this day. With the commander's own blade, he then cut off his beard and all his hair, vowed to never let it grow again, and let it be a mark of shame for him, who had otherwise been nothing but noble. Unknown to anyone, Cao Cao had secretly observed this entire affair from afar, and witnessed Guan Yu's act of shame personally. Later in his life, when his horse would accidentally graze in a farmer's field, Cao would remember this moment, and perform a similar "Mark of Shame" rather than order his own execution.

And so the mystery of the beard-less Guan Yu is solved. Please hold your applause. :lol:
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Re: Guan Yu story?

Unread postby Zyzyfer » Mon Aug 10, 2015 8:06 am

Not a bad hypothesis, Bush Leagues. But it could also be female Zhao Yun battling it out with the monster Wutugu who is, like, some kind of Chinese kappa...or something. The next few tiles then depict her marriage to Ma Yunlu and Bao Sanniang. But then in the next two tiles, she takes off her mask and clothing, revealing that she was the hero Guan Suo all along.
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Re: Guan Yu story?

Unread postby Bush Leagues » Mon Aug 10, 2015 8:46 am

Zyzyfer wrote:Not a bad hypothesis, Bush Leagues. But it could also be female Zhao Yun battling it out with the monster Wutugu who is, like, some kind of Chinese kappa...or something. The next few tiles then depict her marriage to Ma Yunlu and Bao Sanniang. But then in the next two tiles, she takes off her mask and clothing, revealing that she was the hero Guan Suo all along.


Sounds like serious scholarly debate; not my style. Let Professor Rafe sort this one out. :D
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Re: Guan Yu story?

Unread postby DragonAtma » Tue Aug 11, 2015 5:33 pm

Nonsense! Judging by the twin megafeathers, it's clearly a very loosely retold story of Lu Bu killing Dong Zhuo. :P

But seriously, going but the *ahem* unusualness of Mr. Tile2, he's probably one of those mythical not-quite-humans dating waaaaay back to the three sovereigns & five emperors period (2500 BC or so).
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Re: Guan Yu story?

Unread postby Cao Chao » Mon Aug 24, 2015 11:22 pm

Wouldn't it make more sense if that was Zhou Cang?
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Re: Guan Yu story?

Unread postby TigerTally » Wed Sep 09, 2015 4:20 am

They are Zhou Yu and Zhang Fei.

This article and the Chinese Wikipedia entry of Mahjong have mentioned these tiles as well. They point out that a Peking opera about the conflicts between Zhuge Liang and Zhou Yu has a similar title "Reed-flower Pond (Luhua Dong 蘆花蕩)", when the mahjong tiles say "Battle on water at Reed-flower (shuizhan luhua 水戰蘆花)". It is a short modern drama about Zhang Fei disguising as a fisherman and ambushing Zhou Yu near Reed-flower Pond. The two engaged in a spear fight with each other as shown on the mahjong tiles. Zhang captured Zhou but decided not to kill him, so Zhou died out of anger and humiliation.

More information about the opera can be found at here, and for those who want to read the original text you can download it here.
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Re: Guan Yu story?

Unread postby IamStillNick » Fri Sep 25, 2015 3:53 am

TigerTally wrote:They are Zhou Yu and Zhang Fei.

This article and the Chinese Wikipedia entry of Mahjong have mentioned these tiles as well. They point out that a Peking opera about the conflicts between Zhuge Liang and Zhou Yu has a similar title "Reed-flower Pond (Luhua Dong 蘆花蕩)", when the mahjong tiles say "Battle on water at Reed-flower (shuizhan luhua 水戰蘆花)". It is a short modern drama about Zhang Fei disguising as a fisherman and ambushing Zhou Yu near Reed-flower Pond. The two engaged in a spear fight with each other as shown on the mahjong tiles. Zhang captured Zhou but decided not to kill him, so Zhou died out of anger and humiliation.

More information about the opera can be found at here, and for those who want to read the original text you can download it here.



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Thanks TigerTally. :D I had not heard of that opera. Does anyone know of an English translation?
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