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Re: They need a Wu tv series

Unread postby LiuBeiwasGreat » Tue Mar 24, 2015 2:17 pm

Well in the end a TV series is probably going to be closer to the Novel portrayals rather then the historical portrayals. Should still make a good show. I would personally like a show for each side, but I would enjoy a Wu one. Especially if they go with early history like someone else suggested, start with Sun Jian's fight with Dong Zhuo's forces, and end after Chi Bi.
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Re: They need a Wu tv series

Unread postby Shen Ai » Tue Mar 24, 2015 4:24 pm

Going from Sun Jian's early days all the way to Chibi would make for a great series.
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Re: They need a Wu tv series

Unread postby Yuán Shù » Mon May 11, 2015 3:12 am

Personally, I think Wu's later years would make for a much better series than Wu's foundation. Sun Quan's ascent as Emperor, to his seeming mental and emotional decline in his later years, and on through the political intrigue and bloodshed after his death, could make for a fascinating tale.
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Re: They need a Wu tv series

Unread postby Xu Yuan » Sun May 31, 2015 5:24 am

I agree, there is tons of political intrigue in the Later Wu court, if they would make a show about Wu they would not be lacking in interesting tales and anecdotes. Starting from Sun Jian's birth portents, one of which is just Wacko! Sun Jian's mother's intestines wrap around a gate! They may want to change that portent in any adaptation of Sun Jian's life. The other is rather interesting, a child walks up to Sun Jian's father, Sun Zhong and asks him for a melon. He gives it to the young child gladly who reveals himself as a divine official and tells Sun Zhong that he will bless the Sun family, but the choice of blessing is thus; The family can be marquises for many generations or Emperors for a few. Sun Zhong chooses Emperors for a few. I imagine that would be a rather fantastic opening after a slight explanation on Sun Wu and how the family fell into obscurity.

Honestly, you can turn Generals of the South into a full-length TV series, embellishing some events (Hu Yu's pirates swearing revenge on Sun Jian, Sun Jian's promotion to Major, the removal of Hu Yu, Sun Jian's distrust of "sages" due to his early encounters with Xu Chang, a charlatan and this hatred being past onto his eldest) and go from there from the other histories to get the details after Sun Quan renews his alliance with Shu-Han.
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Re: They need a Wu tv series

Unread postby rsetiawan » Wed Jul 29, 2015 8:00 am

wu movie a la red cliff would be epic too, esp. if it begun with guan yu beheading to the burning of liu bei 700k troops :twisted:
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Re: They need a Wu tv series

Unread postby LiuBeiwasGreat » Wed Jul 29, 2015 3:32 pm

rsetiawan wrote:wu movie a la red cliff would be epic too, esp. if it begun with guan yu beheading to the burning of liu bei 700k troops :twisted:


Not the best place to start, maybe ending there. Lets be honest Wu didn't accomplish much after gaining the Jing province, it captured a town or two here and there but no real gains. Some nice defensive victories but little to no offensive ones. If you want to include Yi Ling you need to have that near the end of the series and end the series with Wu repelling Cao Pi's offensive afterwards. Then end the show on a high note, something like Sun Quan declaring himself Emperor and seeing a "bright future" ahead or something. Then don't show them accomplishing nothing afterwards :lol:
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Re: They need a Wu tv series

Unread postby Gray Riders » Wed Jul 29, 2015 9:18 pm

LiuBeiwasGreat wrote:
Not the best place to start, maybe ending there. Lets be honest Wu didn't accomplish much after gaining the Jing province, it captured a town or two here and there but no real gains. Some nice defensive victories but little to no offensive ones. If you want to include Yi Ling you need to have that near the end of the series and end the series with Wu repelling Cao Pi's offensive afterwards. Then end the show on a high note, something like Sun Quan declaring himself Emperor and seeing a "bright future" ahead or something. Then don't show them accomplishing nothing afterwards :lol:

There was the whole thing where Wu developed the south into a more respectable territory. But that's not what most people think of when they hear"exciting television". The problem is that post Yiling only Wei/Jin really accomplished much militarily.
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Re: They need a Wu tv series

Unread postby LiuBeiwasGreat » Wed Jul 29, 2015 10:39 pm

Gray Riders wrote:
LiuBeiwasGreat wrote:
Not the best place to start, maybe ending there. Lets be honest Wu didn't accomplish much after gaining the Jing province, it captured a town or two here and there but no real gains. Some nice defensive victories but little to no offensive ones. If you want to include Yi Ling you need to have that near the end of the series and end the series with Wu repelling Cao Pi's offensive afterwards. Then end the show on a high note, something like Sun Quan declaring himself Emperor and seeing a "bright future" ahead or something. Then don't show them accomplishing nothing afterwards :lol:

There was the whole thing where Wu developed the south into a more respectable territory. But that's not what most people think of when they hear"exciting television". The promlem is that post Yiling only Wei/Jin really accomplished much militarily.


That is what I meant, that it wouldn't make for a good TV show, Wu did amazing things domestically but this show isn't' a documentary about how Sun Quan forged quality territory.
Shu-Han had their 101 northern campaigns, but losing a lot doesn't make exciting TV either, only Wei/Jin could hold a show down for the later period.
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Re: They need a Wu tv series

Unread postby Xu Yuan » Thu Aug 13, 2015 6:26 pm

Doesn't Wu's descent into political intrigue make an interesting tale? The viewer would be able to see Sun Quan age, mature, and then fall into madness as he begins to lash out at his father figure Zhang Zhao and when Zhang Zhao is gone there are only partisans on all sides. Even Lu Xun, one of his closest advisors and the famous commander who may have saved Wu at Yi Ling was discarded leading to the man's death. The manipulations by his daughter leading a great segue into the chaos caused by his decline with a bright spot first being seen in Zhuge Ke who turns from Wu's hero to a villain as he ignores the wounded and suffering on his retreat back from He Fei, then the old partisans who lead Sun Quan to kill and exile his proper heirs re-emerge killing Zhuge Ke.

Also the relationship between Sun Luban and Sun Jun... as much as I dislike the series, sounds like its right out of Game of Thrones and the lobbying of both Luban and Luyu during the succession crisis would make for entertainment and the vindictiveness of Luban in getting her sister killed for no discernable reason at the time. In the background they could focus an episode or two on a young Sun Hao who was dealing with all of this, his father losing his rightful position, his forced suicide, and the wandering of his mother and himself until they are brought back into the courts, now certainly Sun Hao would have an ardent hatred of all those involved, hinting at his own unhinged attitudes after his platitudes of generosity wear off.

I think a Wu show that extends from Sun Jian to the Fall of Wu can be done and can be very entertaining. People will just need to know that the last fourth or so would be mostly court intrigue.
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Re: They need a Wu tv series

Unread postby danuracula » Mon Jan 02, 2017 12:13 pm

Chapter 1: Sun Jian saga
Chapter 2: Sun Ce saga
Chapter 3: Zhou Yu & ChiBi War
Chapter 4: Lu Meng saga
Chapter 5: Lu Xun saga
Chapter 6: post-SunQuan era (fall of Wu)

With hundreds of episodes.. :lol:
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