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Re: Map of Han/Three Kingdoms China?

Unread postby Lord_Cao_Cao » Thu May 12, 2016 2:14 pm

Probably because Cao Cao moved the capital of the Han Dynasty to Xuchang in 196 (it also was his personal capital until he took Ye from Yuan Shao).
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Re: Map of Han/Three Kingdoms China?

Unread postby PyroMystic » Thu May 12, 2016 3:00 pm

Lord_Cao_Cao wrote:Probably because Cao Cao moved the capital of the Han Dynasty to Xuchang in 196 (it also was his personal capital until he took Ye from Yuan Shao).


Oh right. That makes sense. I actually forget about that event. Thanks.
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Re: Map of Han/Three Kingdoms China?

Unread postby vvill » Fri May 13, 2016 2:06 am

Fornadan wrote:Ah, yes it should

Good catch

No problem, looking forward to seeing all the maps!
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Re: Map of Han/Three Kingdoms China?

Unread postby Lord_Cao_Cao » Thu Jun 16, 2016 2:01 pm

How is it going? I think Yang and Jiao are still missing?
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Re: Map of Han/Three Kingdoms China?

Unread postby Fornadan » Thu Jun 16, 2016 5:07 pm

Almost finished with Yang
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Re: Map of Han/Three Kingdoms China?

Unread postby Fornadan » Sat Jun 18, 2016 3:32 pm

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By the mid 140s, Yang province consisted of six commanderies, Jiujiang, Danyang, Lujiang, Kuaiji, Wu and Yuzhang

Sun Ce divided Yuzhang to set up Luling
Sun Quan divided Yuzhang to set up Poyang and divided Danyang to set up Xindu
Sun Liang divided Yuzhang to set up Linchuan and divided Kuaiji to set up Linhai
Sun Xiu divided Kuaiji to establish Jian'an
Sun Hao divided Kuaiji to establish Dongyang, divided Wu to establish Wuxing, formed Ancheng from parts of Yuzhang, Luling and Changsha and set up a separate Chief Commandant of Luling's Southern Section.

In 282 after the conquest of Wu, the Jin transferred Ancheng to Jing, divided Danyang to set up Xuancheng and Piling, renamed Xindu to Xin'an, changed the Chief Commandant of Luling's Southern Section into the regular commandery of Nankang and divided Jian'an to set up Jin'an.

Jin also changed Jiujiang to Huainan, which had been the name of that commandery during Western Han.

HHS: Yang province: 6 commanderies, 92 counties, 1 021 096 households
JS: Yang province: 18 commanderies, 170 counties, 311 400 households

HHS: Jiujiang: 14 counties, 89 436 households
JS: Huainan: 16 counties, 33 400 households

HHS: Danyang: 16 counties, 136 518 households
JS: Danyang: 11 counties, 51 500 households
JS: Xuancheng: 11 counties, 23 500 households
JS: Xin'an: 6 counties, 5 000 households

HHS: Lujiang: 14 counties, 101 392 households
JS: Lujiang: 10 counties, 4 200 households

HHS: Kuaiji: 14 counties, 123 090 households
JS: Kuaiji: 10 counties, 30 000 households
JS: Dongyang: 9 counties, 12 000 households
JS: Linhai: 8 counties, 18 000 households
JS: Jian'an: 7 counties, 4 300 households
JS: Jin'an: 8 counties, 4 300 households

HHS: Wu: 13 counties, 164 164 households
JS: Wu: 11 counties, 25 000 households
JS: Piling: 7 counties, 12 000 households
JS: Wuxing: 10 counties, 24 000 households

HHS: Yuzhang: 21 counties 406 496 households
JS: Yuzhang: 16 counties, 35 000 households
JS: Linchuan: 10 counties, 8 500 households
JS: Poyang: 8 counties, 6 100 households
JS: Luling: 10 counties, 12 200 households
JS: Nankang: 5 counties, 1 400 households
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Re: Map of Han/Three Kingdoms China?

Unread postby DragonAtma » Sat Jun 18, 2016 7:17 pm

RANDOM MAPPING TRIVIA: Yuzhang (140s~190s) and Jiangxi (2016) are very similar in size, shape, and location. So if you want to estimate the physical size of a three kingdoms area, compare it to Yuzhang's size, as it's very close to Jiangxi's size (64,400 square miles, aka 166,900 square kilometers).
Unless I specifically say otherwise, assume I am talking about historical Three Kingdoms, and not the novel.
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Re: Map of Han/Three Kingdoms China?

Unread postby Lord_Cao_Cao » Sat Jun 18, 2016 7:51 pm

Could you reupload the map for Southern Yang? It has a much smaller resolution. Other than that, fine work! That leaves only Jiao.

Ah, what was the capital of Lujiang according to the HHS? JS seems to name Yangquan, but I don't see the big red dot in the commandery.
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Re: Map of Han/Three Kingdoms China?

Unread postby Fornadan » Sun Jun 19, 2016 7:19 am

Lord_Cao_Cao wrote:Could you reupload the map for Southern Yang? It has a much smaller resolution. Other than that, fine work! That leaves only Jiao.

fixed

Ah, what was the capital of Lujiang according to the HHS? JS seems to name Yangquan, but I don't see the big red dot in the commandery.


It should be Shu I think, looks like I forgot to add it
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Re: Map of Han/Three Kingdoms China?

Unread postby greencactaur » Mon Jun 27, 2016 4:58 am

Can someone plop a map of the three kingdoms era over the current China map? I'm still a little confused as to the size difference of China than and now.
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