My darlings, how I've missed you! <3 Hugs all around for everyone! My absence has spawned multiple stress level spikes as well as ten pages on women's poetry during the Ming-Qing period. You should have seen me lugging back texts from the library and man those things are heavy as a young girl's heart on a spring day without her fav board. :' (
Aych, I'd better write this down once and for all. XD During seminars I've been asked twice already about her and her sister. I just left that to someone else to explain the basics of women during the Han dynasty, but I'll tackle it now, just for you guys. <3
Let's just say right off the bat that she was not an important person.
First thing I'm wondering is how can anyone be a fan of Da Qiao? We don't have anything aside from her name and family background. We don't even have her name.
"Da Qiao" was not a contemporary name. But then again they generally did NOT record women's names. They were mostly known as "the wife of Huangfu Gai," "Lady Zhen," "Highest Consort Yang," "Daughter of Sun Ce," or other stuff. It's only in exceptional circumstances that we have their given name. In Cai Yan (Zhaoji-Wenji-etc), that was because she was an accomplished poet and musician. So don't worry about it.
I'm having a bit of difficulty with this. The thing is, to understand it, you need a pretty firm background in women's studies and family specifically during the Zhou and Han dynasties. (I say Zhou because it was during this period that the very concepts of the Chinese family and women, such as the yinyang, nei/wai, etc concepts were established and a woman's place and roles were written down by multiple schools, but in the end Confucianism ran up. Either way, it's important to study.) But I'll try to explain!
Anyways, we have no records on Da Qiao.
All we know is that she was the daughter of a prominent landholding gentry, most likely politically active within their local community. That was probably why Sun Ce chose that family, to stabilize his ties with the new place as well as with a prominent support, Zhou Yu. I can see why they chose not to marry from one of the local families in established territory, though. And don't think that he married for her either. Looks might be a factor, but it's likely he saw her only minimally or not at all before being married, especially because she was of such a high-ranking family. There is a strict gender separation, and unmarried girls of good family most certainly did not go out to see their future men. We know practically nothing about Da Qiao.
Women are individuals and her virtues and talents IF ANY were not recorded.Da Qiao likely remarried.
This is not a recorded fact, as things such as these were not recorded. However, a lot of people mistake the Han Dynasty for like... 1000 years later, whereas in the Han Dynasty the norm
was for even upperclass women to remarry. I wrote a quickie speel for you, my dears, in the women
topic, I'll expand on it later. It's so short and doesn't cover anything. : ( Also, she was only married for less than a year at the most, counting from Sun Ce's conquest of the territory. Here's when I say that I think a background in family and women studies is really important. She was a young wife, probably not that established in her new married home. Come one, she was probably just fourteen or fifteen! When a widow that young stayed chaste and did not remarry people made a hoopla about it because that's basically swearing off sex with men and stuff for the rest of your life and people thought that that was kind of unnatural. She was the daughter of an upper class family with political stuff, come on! And if she had no kids, she definitely needed to remarry.
Chaste widowhood was considered a high virtue for women. (high virtue=ideal but no one really did it, like living in a hut next to your parents' grave for years.) I mean, if anyone thinks that she somehow defied the sexual policies and norms of her time and managed to do something ridiculously extreme (moral and virtuous extreme as scholars called it) without it being noted... We don't know if she had kids.
Sun Shao is the only possibility of Sun Ce's children to have been her child, but we don't know for sure.
Essentially, although women were ideally put away from politics (but we can see clear blaring examples where they jumped right in throughout history), women as wives and mothers were the main, 'legitimate' ways that they exercised influence and power. As we can see, Da Qiao was neither: Sun Shao died in infancy, and Da Qiao certainly wasn't a wife for long enough for advise or influence Sun Ce. Another way that women had their own autonomy was through being a chaste widow, which she probably was not.
Four beauties? No, she was beautiful, but I don't recall anything about her being moreso than the other beauties. But then again, who can compare? Besides... Call me angry Chinese girl all you want but I never counted beauty as a primary trait or a qualifying factor for a woman, unless she did a de-la-va state toppler ie Baosi or Lady Yang. In that case YES her beauty was important.The folktales are all false.
Sun Ce's last words are generally believed to be to Sun Quan saying "don't f••• up my empire, dude." She was not a reason for Chibi.
I'm afraid that the only place she has any importance or character or anything is inside a DW game. In short, outside of video games or wuxia films, I'd highly recommend getting a new fansubject.
Oh my God I'm trying not to like do a TL;DR or to depend too much on basics of women's studies but for that purpose I totally skimped on it! : ( I'm trying to make this accessible to everyone, not just people in this concentration, you see. But I hope it gives you some idea? I suck at being helpful kind of, don't I? ^^" Anyways, back to cake!!