Crazedmongoose wrote:On the other hand more severe than beheading was to be chopped from the waist. (yiao-zhan)
Ling-chi or death by a thousand cuts is historically contested, in that it may be a mutilation of the corpse rather than torturing someone to death.
Their plan of action reveals that hanging, for women in this time, was normal when committing suicide. In later dynasties, there are ghost stories about a beautiful woman with a red mark on her neck and she seduces a scholar or someone and invites him in and goes to change but then he sees like an old body hanging from the rafters and realizes that his new squeeze is in fact the ghost of a woman who committed suicide.
Of course this is not always the case. de Cresipgny even claims that "died of grief" is sometimes a euphemism for "enforced suicide." And when a lord doesn't like someone, they can order them to kill themselves. In this way, it is not honorable.
Dong Zhou wrote:what does he do afterwards?
but it preserves honour to them and their families, it is an act of self sacrifice for the good of others so perhaps, in it's own unpleasant way, it is an honourable if forced death.
Starscream wrote:Side tracking a bit, I think during the earlier dynasties, some rulers required their concubines to follow them in death, i.e. after the ruler passed away, the concubines were forced to commit suicide or killed (most likely poisoning or strangulation I suppose) and they were buried together with the ruler in his tomb/mausoleum.
Crazedmongoose wrote:Very popular method of execution was death by strangulation. This was a less severe punishment than beheading.
Cao Cao assented. Seeing that, Lü Bu turned to Liu Bei and said, “You are the most untrustworthy person.”
Soon after, Lü Bu was executed by strangulation. The heads of Lü Bu, Chen Gong, Gao Shun, and some of the other generals were sent to Xu Chang where they were buried.
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