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Who is best strategist? Sima Yi, Lu Xun, or Zhuge Liang?

Unread postPosted: Tue Aug 03, 2010 2:11 am
by Human5
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Re: Who is best strategist? Sima Yi, Lu Xun, or Zhuge Liang?

Unread postPosted: Tue Aug 03, 2010 4:01 am
by Crazedmongoose
Jia Xiu
Followed by Guo Jia


Zhuge Liang comes in around 5-10th maybe for me. Lu Xun there also.

Sima Yi comes in maybe in the 20's.

Re: Who is best strategist? Sima Yi, Lu Xun, or Zhuge Liang?

Unread postPosted: Tue Aug 03, 2010 6:30 am
by Dong Zhou
Human5 wrote:I think it is Zhuge Liang.


I'm guessing based on other posts, this is a novel topic?

Re: Who is best strategist? Sima Yi, Lu Xun, or Zhuge Liang?

Unread postPosted: Tue Aug 03, 2010 7:21 am
by Cao Hong 14
off of the novel probably zhuge but historically idk

Re: Who is best strategist? Sima Yi, Lu Xun, or Zhuge Liang?

Unread postPosted: Tue Aug 03, 2010 6:58 pm
by LuXunMaster102
for novel, Zhuge Liang.

Re: Who is best strategist? Sima Yi, Lu Xun, or Zhuge Liang?

Unread postPosted: Tue Aug 03, 2010 7:25 pm
by Gray Riders
Of those three...probably Lu Xun, historically, but it's hard to call because neither he nor Zhuge Liang had that much offensive success (although Lu Xun, if I recall, led troops in the capture of Jing).

The best strategist of all (historically, again) is almost certainly Jia Xu. I don't think he ever made an incorrect call in his entire career--which lasted from before the chaos to late in Cao Pi's reign. There might be some others better at battlefield tactics (though Jia Xu gave good advice for winning battles, too), but when it comes to winning a war and forming an empire, I'd pick Jia Xu every time over any other three kingdoms strategist.

Re: Who is best strategist? Sima Yi, Lu Xun, or Zhuge Liang?

Unread postPosted: Wed Aug 04, 2010 1:16 am
by Crazedmongoose
I've heard it described like this in China:


Zhuge Liang understands the manipulation of whole Empires
Jia Xiu understands the manipulation of people

Re: Who is best strategist? Sima Yi, Lu Xun, or Zhuge Liang?

Unread postPosted: Wed Aug 04, 2010 5:48 am
by Dong Zhou
I got this by pm but this is a novel based topic

Re: Who is best strategist? Sima Yi, Lu Xun, or Zhuge Liang?

Unread postPosted: Wed Aug 04, 2010 6:02 am
by Crazedmongoose
Oh okay.

Then Zhuge Liang. Not debate even needed.

I mean that is why I prefer none novel based topics. Because the novel sets it out in nauseatingly simple terms.

Re: Who is best strategist? Sima Yi, Lu Xun, or Zhuge Liang?

Unread postPosted: Wed Aug 04, 2010 1:11 pm
by Mestre Will
If is novel Zhuge Liang.

Just a question:
I hear some people say that Zhuge liang did a "Divide strategy" , it is only in novel or people realy think it?