Who is best strategist? Sima Yi, Lu Xun, or Zhuge Liang?

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Who is best strategist? Sima Yi, Lu Xun, or Zhuge Liang?

Unread postby Human5 » Tue Aug 03, 2010 2:11 am

I think it is Zhuge Liang.
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Re: Who is best strategist? Sima Yi, Lu Xun, or Zhuge Liang?

Unread postby Crazedmongoose » Tue Aug 03, 2010 4:01 am

Jia Xiu
Followed by Guo Jia


Zhuge Liang comes in around 5-10th maybe for me. Lu Xun there also.

Sima Yi comes in maybe in the 20's.
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Re: Who is best strategist? Sima Yi, Lu Xun, or Zhuge Liang?

Unread postby Dong Zhou » Tue Aug 03, 2010 6:30 am

Human5 wrote:I think it is Zhuge Liang.


I'm guessing based on other posts, this is a novel topic?
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Re: Who is best strategist? Sima Yi, Lu Xun, or Zhuge Liang?

Unread postby Cao Hong 14 » Tue Aug 03, 2010 7:21 am

off of the novel probably zhuge but historically idk
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Re: Who is best strategist? Sima Yi, Lu Xun, or Zhuge Liang?

Unread postby LuXunMaster102 » Tue Aug 03, 2010 6:58 pm

for novel, Zhuge Liang.
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Ruler - Yuan Shao
Prime Minister - Guo Jia
Grand Commander - Zhou Yu
Alternate - Sun Jian
Viceroy - Lu Su
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Re: Who is best strategist? Sima Yi, Lu Xun, or Zhuge Liang?

Unread postby Gray Riders » Tue Aug 03, 2010 7:25 pm

Of those three...probably Lu Xun, historically, but it's hard to call because neither he nor Zhuge Liang had that much offensive success (although Lu Xun, if I recall, led troops in the capture of Jing).

The best strategist of all (historically, again) is almost certainly Jia Xu. I don't think he ever made an incorrect call in his entire career--which lasted from before the chaos to late in Cao Pi's reign. There might be some others better at battlefield tactics (though Jia Xu gave good advice for winning battles, too), but when it comes to winning a war and forming an empire, I'd pick Jia Xu every time over any other three kingdoms strategist.
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Re: Who is best strategist? Sima Yi, Lu Xun, or Zhuge Liang?

Unread postby Crazedmongoose » Wed Aug 04, 2010 1:16 am

I've heard it described like this in China:


Zhuge Liang understands the manipulation of whole Empires
Jia Xiu understands the manipulation of people
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Re: Who is best strategist? Sima Yi, Lu Xun, or Zhuge Liang?

Unread postby Dong Zhou » Wed Aug 04, 2010 5:48 am

I got this by pm but this is a novel based topic
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Re: Who is best strategist? Sima Yi, Lu Xun, or Zhuge Liang?

Unread postby Crazedmongoose » Wed Aug 04, 2010 6:02 am

Oh okay.

Then Zhuge Liang. Not debate even needed.

I mean that is why I prefer none novel based topics. Because the novel sets it out in nauseatingly simple terms.
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Re: Who is best strategist? Sima Yi, Lu Xun, or Zhuge Liang?

Unread postby Mestre Will » Wed Aug 04, 2010 1:11 pm

If is novel Zhuge Liang.

Just a question:
I hear some people say that Zhuge liang did a "Divide strategy" , it is only in novel or people realy think it?
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