Zhang Fei the Stronger Warrior

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Re: Zhang Fei the Stronger Warrior

Unread postby Zhang_Fei888 » Fri Oct 09, 2009 9:38 am

Hm..for this matter I prefer guan yu is the stronger warior as we know after lubu died gusn yu is the mighty warior in 3 kingdoms story and cao cao call him God of war. :D
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Re: Zhang Fei the Stronger Warrior

Unread postby HowSwiftThySword » Thu Oct 22, 2009 3:57 pm

Zhang Fei was one hell of a tactician in relative respect to how (most) warriors fail to have a brain.
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Re: Zhang Fei the Stronger Warrior

Unread postby Zappa » Thu Oct 22, 2009 4:16 pm

Guan Yu killed Hua Xiong and Yan Liang.
Zhang Fei killed Ji Ling.

I think Guan Yu is still a stronger warrior but its close.
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Re: Zhang Fei the Stronger Warrior

Unread postby Rakoru » Sat Oct 24, 2009 11:24 pm

You must not forget the thing at Chang Ban that Yide put men and horse in the forest near to make them believe it was a trap, yeah it takes guts, but he didn't stopped Cao's men with his roar, Cao Cao decided to not follow them because he though it was a trap. Another proof of a cunning Yide :D
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Re: Zhang Fei the Stronger Warrior

Unread postby Zappa » Sun Oct 25, 2009 10:17 am

Well I must admit its very close.
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Re: Zhang Fei the Stronger Warrior

Unread postby mrbeate » Mon Oct 26, 2009 7:43 pm

Zappa wrote:Guan Yu killed Hua Xiong and Yan Liang.
Zhang Fei killed Ji Ling.

I think Guan Yu is still a stronger warrior but its close.


Historically he didn't kill Hua Xiong and if your talking novel throw in Wen Chou in there too.

At Chang Ban some people say Cao Cao didn't want to cross cause some next bridge problem and Cao Cao didn't want his men to cross the water(getting soaked and slowing you down) and get stabbed by Zhang Fei's men. Remember Zhang Fei only had 20 - 30 soldiers while Cao Cao, had 100, 000.
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Re: Zhang Fei the Stronger Warrior

Unread postby Zappa » Wed Oct 28, 2009 10:45 pm

Remember Zhang Fei only had 20 - 30 soldiers while Cao Cao, had 100, 000.

I dont know what happened there but I cant imagine it was due to Yide that the whole army fled in panic.There must have been something else.
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Re: Zhang Fei the Stronger Warrior

Unread postby Qu Hui » Thu Oct 29, 2009 9:54 am

Zappa wrote:I dont know what happened there but I cant imagine it was due to Yide that the whole army fled in panic.There must have been something else.


Chen Shou in the SGZ wrote:The Former heard that Duke Cao's great army was upon him, abandoned his family and sent Zhang Fei to cover the rear with twenty horsemen. Zhang Fei defended the riverbank and broke the bridge. He aligned his lance, his eyes bulging, and said: "This is Zhang Yide, come and duel to the death!" None of the enemy dared approach and disaster was thus averted.


So yes, it was just because of Yide that Cao Cao would not advance.
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Re: Zhang Fei the Stronger Warrior

Unread postby Zappa » Thu Oct 29, 2009 9:56 am

Im still not sure if this is really what happened.

100.000 man were scared to fight Zhang Fei?

Thats a cool thought but not very realistic.
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Re: Zhang Fei the Stronger Warrior

Unread postby Qu Hui » Thu Oct 29, 2009 10:00 am

Zappa wrote:Im still not sure if this is really what happened.

100.000 man were scared to fight Zhang Fei?

Thats a cool thought but not very realistic.


ZZTJ, Chapter 65 wrote:Zhang Fei commanded twenty horsemen as rearguard. He held the river
and broke the bridges down, he looked fierce and shook his lance, shouting,
"I am Zhang Yide.50 Come and die with me." None of Cao Cao's men dared
go near him.


So, I'd say it probably did happen, since we can confirm in both the ZZTJ and SGZ.
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