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Re: Dong Zhuo not only an evil tyrant?

Unread postby Xia Kyoto » Tue Feb 09, 2010 12:32 pm

I thought that He Jin employed Sun Jian, and i thought Cao Cao rebelled against DZ in Chen Liu.

Correct me if im wrong.
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Re: Dong Zhuo not only an evil tyrant?

Unread postby Dong Zhou » Tue Feb 09, 2010 4:52 pm

I don't think He Jin employed Sun Jian as such, individual commanders like Zhu Jun and Zhang Wen employed Jian. As for Cao Cao, that bit is correct
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Re: Dong Zhuo not only an evil tyrant?

Unread postby Xu Yuan » Tue Feb 09, 2010 5:49 pm

Didn't Dong Zhuo also kill the economy with his influx of coins he made from tearing down and melting some Very archaic beautiful statues?

Also no mention yet of that farming town that was celebrating its festival when he ran in, killed all the men and carted off all the women and proclaimed that he had won a great victory over bandits?

I'd say those two crimes are a bit worse than nearly everything but burning Luo Yang to the ground.
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Re: Dong Zhuo not only an evil tyrant?

Unread postby Dong Zhou » Tue Feb 09, 2010 6:21 pm

He did muck up the economy with that error, not sure that was a crime.

Wasn't that the novel only?
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Re: Dong Zhuo not only an evil tyrant?

Unread postby Zappa » Tue Feb 09, 2010 6:24 pm

Didn't Dong Zhuo also kill the economy with his influx of coins he made from tearing down and melting some Very archaic beautiful statues?


Im not sure if DZ really cared about anything else then his power, so if he did kill the economy than more by accident i guess.
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Re: Dong Zhuo not only an evil tyrant?

Unread postby Xu Yuan » Thu Feb 11, 2010 12:27 am

Dong Zhou wrote:He did muck up the economy with that error, not sure that was a crime.

Wasn't that the novel only?


Surprisingly I don't *think* that event is even mentioned in the novel, I may be very wrong though.
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Re: Dong Zhuo not only an evil tyrant?

Unread postby Crazedmongoose » Thu Feb 11, 2010 12:55 am

No the massacre of the village is mentioned in the novel. I'm not sure if it is in actual history. That's what Dong Zhou was referring to.

Whilst the mucking up of the economy is not mentioned in the novel.
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Re: Dong Zhuo not only an evil tyrant?

Unread postby Qu Hui » Thu Feb 11, 2010 2:13 am

The massacre at the village (which was Yangcheng) did occour historically, according to the SGZ.
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Re: Dong Zhuo not only an evil tyrant?

Unread postby Sun Fin » Thu Feb 11, 2010 9:14 am

Dong Zhou wrote:Wasn't that the novel only?


As far as I can remember that wasn't mentioned in the novel.
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Re: Dong Zhuo not only an evil tyrant?

Unread postby Dong Zhou » Thu Feb 11, 2010 7:58 pm

Sun Fin wrote:
Dong Zhou wrote:Wasn't that the novel only?


As far as I can remember that wasn't mentioned in the novel.


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Qu Hui wrote:The massacre at the village (which was Yangcheng) did occour historically, according to the SGZ.


Sorry :oops:

Which bio is it in? If it's Dong, can't find the passage so please could you quote it so I remember next time
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