ZhouTai50 wrote: Well, aside from their actual skills, I think you'd have to look at who was crucial to other campaigns and battles, such as Hanzhong, that being in charge of Jingzhou would prevent them from being present at. The two top choices, I believe, are Zhao Yun and Zhang Fei. However, both of them were extremely important to the Hanzhong campaign, and without them, Liu Bei's forces would have had a much harder time with it, and might not have been victorious.
ZhouTai50 wrote:Aside from them, who do you have? Well, Zhuge Liang, for one. He was one of the most gifted administrators of the era and could be counted on to handle the relationship with Wu. However, if attacked anyway, he wouldn't have any really capable generals to combat the enemy. Personally, I'd put a talented general in as Governor and Zhuge Liang as his advisor. As for who I'd pick, I'm going with Wei Yan. He was a talented general that could be counted on to defend the territory well if attacked, the soldiers seemed to respect him, and wouldn't make any stupid in-battle mistakes. With him there leading the army and letting Zhuge Liang handle the diplomacy and economy, I think Jingzhou would end up a lot better off.
Lu Kang wrote: I'm not sure I agree with the assesment of why Zhuge Liang could not be placed in Jingzhou. While he helped in taking Yizhou, his role was not nearly as important as Huang Zhong and Liu Bei. While Zhuge Liang helped with supplying the army, I do not think that this was a job that could only be accomplished by him. I think that Zhuge Liang was the only one who could effectively manage both the affairs of the province as well as the politcal relations on his border.
Lu Kang wrote:There are quite a few generals who Zhuge Liang could use effectivelyin Jing that were not being used (or used well) in Hanzhong. Ma Chao and Wei Yan could both easily be spared and while not without fault, someone like Zhuge Liang could use them to their full potential.
Lu Kang wrote:There are probably several reasons why Liu Bei choose Guan Yu for Jingzhou. The first being his undying loyalty to him. Another possible reason would be Guan Yu's arrogance. Knowing Guan Yu's nature, Liu Beu may have choosen to keep him content in Jing rather than risk any potential problems on campaign with an unruly Guan Yu (or just out of respect for his nature).
Mistelten wrote:What is it that made Zhao Yun a better pick? Was he ever actually the governer of anything?
I think Lu Meng's offensive strategy had more to do with the fall of Jing than Guan Yu's political ability. Guan was fighting on two fronts and had only just returned from a victorious campaign against a tested enemy. He lost to Wu's amphibious campaign and I don't know who the general was who would have succeeded in his place.
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