Xiahou Mao wrote:It's the same reason I'd rank Xiahou Yuan ahead of Cao Ren. Xiahou Yuan was skilled at attacking, Cao Ren was an expert defender. Attacking is harder, so Xiahou Yuan is better.
Elitemsh wrote:That is a massive generalisation. Attacking is not always more difficult than defending. It depends on the terrain, the specific talents of the generals involved and size of the opposing armies. Xiahou Yuan showed courage through his offensive victories, but when he failed to protect Han Zhong he displayed arrogance, selfishness and recklessness. His offsensive victories showed less gifts than his defensive failure showed faults.
Xiahou Mao wrote:Actually, his defensive failure showed that Zhang He failed against Zhang Fei, which compromised his defenses. And then, in the first skirmish against Shu, he got unlucky and was killed in the fighting. You can't lay the fault on Xiahou Yuan for that, as the actions of Zhang He were beyond his control. His being killed in a skirmish was just bad luck, that doesn't happen very often. Had he not died like he did, the Wei forces might have still stood strong against Shu, but when your commander is killed, morale tends to plummet.
Zhao Yun '87 wrote:Also, from what I've seen (mainly in the SGZ) Sun Jian's death wasn't due to recklessness but just bad luck.
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